From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun May 2 16:01:56 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 May 1999 16:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA29585 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 16:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA16339; Sun, 2 May 1999 16:01:53 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id QAA21583; Sun, 2 May 1999 16:01:45 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id PAA41294 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 15:56:51 -0700 Received: from watsol.cc.columbia.edu (IDENT:cu789@watsol.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.39.139]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id PAA19907 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 15:56:51 -0700 Received: from localhost (bino@localhost) by watsol.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA13071 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 18:56:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 18:56:48 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Bino Gopal To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: 143686Q: Pine Collection Lists MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: bino@columbia.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi Scott, THANK YOU VERY MUCH for this reply! :) It's good to know that: a) I wasn't imagining things, and b) Someone out there had an answer! That being the case, I'm just a bit curious as to where you got this answer--as it was in obviously in another forum separate from this one, one that seems to be more receptive to questions... Would you be kind enough to provide me with that information (as it was not included in the forward below)? Thanks again--oh, any idea on when the next release might be, btw? BINO On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 leibrand@u.washington.edu wrote: Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:51:34 -0700 (PDT) From: leibrand@u.washington.edu To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: 143686Q: Pine Collection Lists (fwd) Here's the response for the Pine guys. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: 143686Q: Pine Collection Lists (fwd) This will be fixed in the next release of pine. No patch. Steve > Why doesn't Pine change the Folder Collection when you use ^T to select > another folder collection? It changes the folder name, but leaves the > collection as it was before you ^T'd. This is really annoying, because it > requires a manual ^N or ^P folder collection change, or it will ask you if > you want to create a new folder. > > Is this bug going to be fixed in the next Pine release? Is there a patch? > > Thanks, From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun May 2 18:24:10 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 May 1999 18:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA22105 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 18:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA18396; Sun, 2 May 1999 18:24:07 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id SAA24777; Sun, 2 May 1999 18:24:01 -0700 Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (root@jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA41344 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 18:21:21 -0700 Received: from vergil01.u.washington.edu (leibrand@vergil01.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.6]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA22636; Sun, 2 May 1999 18:21:20 -0700 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by vergil01.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA49456; Sun, 2 May 1999 18:21:20 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 18:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: 143686Q: Pine Collection Lists (fwd) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bino Gopal X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I got it by virtue of my position as a student and staff member (supporting Pine, among other things) here at the UW. I sent in a question to our help system, and that's the answer I got. I haven't heard anything on when the next version of Pine might be out. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * On Sun, 2 May 1999, Bino Gopal wrote: > Hi Scott, > > THANK YOU VERY MUCH for this reply! :) It's good to know that: > a) I wasn't imagining things, and > b) Someone out there had an answer! > > That being the case, I'm just a bit curious as to where you got this > answer--as it was in obviously in another forum separate from this one, > one that seems to be more receptive to questions... > > Would you be kind enough to provide me with that information (as it was > not included in the forward below)? Thanks again--oh, any idea on when > the next release might be, btw? > > BINO > > > On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 leibrand@u.washington.edu wrote: > > Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:51:34 -0700 (PDT) > From: leibrand@u.washington.edu > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Re: 143686Q: Pine Collection Lists (fwd) > > Here's the response for the Pine guys. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun May 2 19:26:31 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 May 1999 19:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA29790 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 19:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA08508; Sun, 2 May 1999 19:26:28 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id TAA25288; Sun, 2 May 1999 19:26:20 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA21382 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 19:23:02 -0700 Received: from watsol.cc.columbia.edu (IDENT:cu789@watsol.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.39.139]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA15871; Sun, 2 May 1999 19:23:02 -0700 Received: from localhost (bino@localhost) by watsol.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA20491; Sun, 2 May 1999 22:23:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 22:22:59 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Bino Gopal To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: A couple more questions (was Re: 143686Q: Pine Collection Lists (fwd)) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: bino@columbia.edu X-To: Scott Leibrand X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ahh, ok--I understand, and thanks again--I was wondering what code the 143686Q was for, and now I get it--I was hoping it was a resource I might be able to use, but I guess not. On a similar note then, know anything about why Pine queues all keystrokes made to the console? It didn't use to do this, and is very troublesome. I accidentally dropped something on the keyboard one day, and sat there helplessly for _*five minutes*_ as Pine tried to scroll down past the last message in my folder! The next time that happened, I just killed that Pine session and started over. AFAIK, this was not present in 3.95... Is this a bug or a new feature? Does this also have to do with the fact that Pine is now incredibly slow when checking message? What I mean is, in 3.95 (again :), if I was in a folder of 1,000 messages, I could just hold the down arrow, and it would zoom through them, while I looked for out-of-place text. But now, in 4.10, if I hold down the down arrow, it goes no faster than one message a second--is this b/c it has to redraw the screen each time, and it didn't used to (I thought I saw a post about this before)? Or is there some sort of "message-check-rate=n" feature I don't know about? This is about the only major change that I find non-optimal. I mention these two as they seem related, and make checking large folders a chore when they didn't use to be--not only can I not zip through a folder of 1,000 messages, but now I have to wait for all the keystrokes to clear up (if I held the down key down that is) before I can move to the next folder! A double whammy! Anyway, thanks for all your help Scott. Hope you have some ideas on this. Take care. BINO On Sun, 2 May 1999, Scott Leibrand wrote: > I got it by virtue of my position as a student and staff member > (supporting Pine, among other things) here at the UW. I sent in a > question to our help system, and that's the answer I got. > > I haven't heard anything on when the next version of Pine might be out. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun May 2 19:32:30 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 May 1999 19:32:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA20394 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 19:32:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA08561; Sun, 2 May 1999 19:32:27 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id TAA19431; Sun, 2 May 1999 19:32:22 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA34774 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 19:29:43 -0700 Received: from watsol.cc.columbia.edu (IDENT:cu789@watsol.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.39.139]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA04788; Sun, 2 May 1999 19:29:42 -0700 Received: from localhost (bino@localhost) by watsol.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA20717; Sun, 2 May 1999 22:29:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 22:29:40 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Bino Gopal To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Missing text in replies In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: bino@columbia.edu X-To: Scott Leibrand X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Scott, when I reply to your recent messages, this is all that gets picked up by Pine, though there is obviously more to the message... I checked the message in Emacs, and could find no weird hidden characters, and a cursory examination of the headers doesn't reveal anything strange...any ideas? The other replies I sent to yours, I just pasted in the text (and deleted the '>' since I didn't feel like adding them by hand :). BINO On Sun, 2 May 1999, Scott Leibrand wrote: > Return-Path: > Received: from mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu (mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.143]) > by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA02111 > for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 21:24:13 -0400 (EDT) > Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) > by mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA26758; > Sun, 2 May 1999 21:24:12 -0400 (EDT) > Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) > by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id SAA03200; > Sun, 2 May 1999 18:23:55 -0700 > Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (root@jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) > by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA41344 > for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 18:21:21 -0700 > Received: from vergil01.u.washington.edu (leibrand@vergil01.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.6]) > by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA22636; > Sun, 2 May 1999 18:21:20 -0700 > Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) > by vergil01.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA49456; > Sun, 2 May 1999 18:21:20 -0700 > Message-Id: > Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 18:21:20 -0700 (PDT) > Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu > Precedence: bulk > From: Scott Leibrand > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Re: 143686Q: Pine Collection Lists (fwd) > In-Reply-To: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > X-To: Bino Gopal > X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum > X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > > I got it by virtue of my position as a student and staff member > (supporting Pine, among other things) here at the UW. I sent in a > question to our help system, and that's the answer I got. > > I haven't heard anything on when the next version of Pine might be out. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun May 2 19:41:27 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 May 1999 19:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA30706 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 19:41:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA19510; Sun, 2 May 1999 19:41:24 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id TAA27175; Sun, 2 May 1999 19:41:19 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA24952 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 19:37:58 -0700 Received: from watsol.cc.columbia.edu (IDENT:cu789@watsol.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.39.139]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA05368; Sun, 2 May 1999 19:37:57 -0700 Received: from localhost (bino@localhost) by watsol.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA21168; Sun, 2 May 1999 22:37:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 22:37:55 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Bino Gopal To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Missing text in replies--IGNORE; figured out! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: bino@columbia.edu X-To: Scott Leibrand X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ooops! Ok, ignore the previous message--I should have paid more attention! When I noticed that everything after the "-- " was being stripped, it hit me!: "strip-from-sigdashes-on-reply" was enabled. It's just that I'd never seen it working before, and never used it, so it confused me for a minute... In any case, as you can see I obviously figured it out, so ignore my inane babbling. *grin* But my other babbling about queued keystrokes and slowness checking messages still is valid...so don't ignore those! :) BINO ----- On Sun, 2 May 1999, Bino Gopal wrote: Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 22:29:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Bino Gopal To: Scott Leibrand Cc: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Missing text in replies Scott, when I reply to your recent messages, this is all that gets picked up by Pine, though there is obviously more to the message... I checked the message in Emacs, and could find no weird hidden characters, and a cursory examination of the headers doesn't reveal anything strange...any ideas? The other replies I sent to yours, I just pasted in the text (and deleted the '>' since I didn't feel like adding them by hand :). BINO On Sun, 2 May 1999, Scott Leibrand wrote: > Return-Path: > Received: from mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu (mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.143]) > by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA02111 > for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 21:24:13 -0400 (EDT) > Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) > by mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA26758; > Sun, 2 May 1999 21:24:12 -0400 (EDT) > Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) > by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id SAA03200; > Sun, 2 May 1999 18:23:55 -0700 > Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (root@jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) > by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA41344 > for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 18:21:21 -0700 > Received: from vergil01.u.washington.edu (leibrand@vergil01.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.6]) > by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA22636; > Sun, 2 May 1999 18:21:20 -0700 > Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) > by vergil01.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA49456; > Sun, 2 May 1999 18:21:20 -0700 > Message-Id: > Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 18:21:20 -0700 (PDT) > Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu > Precedence: bulk > From: Scott Leibrand > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Re: 143686Q: Pine Collection Lists (fwd) > In-Reply-To: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > X-To: Bino Gopal > X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum > X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > > I got it by virtue of my position as a student and staff member > (supporting Pine, among other things) here at the UW. I sent in a > question to our help system, and that's the answer I got. > > I haven't heard anything on when the next version of Pine might be out. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun May 2 23:02:27 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 May 1999 23:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id XAA32583 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 23:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id XAA22192 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 23:02:25 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id XAA23848; Sun, 2 May 1999 23:00:16 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA68016 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 22:56:55 -0700 Received: from kootcom.kootenay.net (kootcom.kootenay.net [209.52.230.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA30174 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 22:56:52 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kootcom.kootenay.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA15930; Mon, 3 May 1999 06:00:46 GMT Received: from ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca by kootcom.kootenay.net; Sun, 2 May 99 23:00 PDT Received: from localhost (jrasku@localhost) by ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA19404; Sun, 2 May 1999 22:51:00 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 22:50:55 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: A couple more questions (was Re: 143686Q: Pine Collection Lists (fwd)) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bino Gopal X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 2 May 1999, Bino Gopal wrote: > On a similar note then, know anything about why Pine queues all keystrokes > made to the console? It didn't use to do this, and is very troublesome. I > accidentally dropped something on the keyboard one day, and sat there > helplessly for _*five minutes*_ as Pine tried to scroll down past the last > message in my folder! The next time that happened, I just killed that > Pine session and started over. AFAIK, this was not present in 3.95... Is > this a bug or a new feature? This is neithe a bug, nor a new feature. This is NOT a Pine feature, this is an opperating system feature. It is possible that with the upgrade to 4.10 other changes happened on your system. I do doubt that it is as major as you sugest (that it didn't used to buffer the standard IO, and now it does), but what do I know... > Does this also have to do with the fact that Pine is now incredibly slow > when checking message? What I mean is, in 3.95 (again :), if I was in a > folder of 1,000 messages, I could just hold the down arrow, and it would > zoom through them, while I looked for out-of-place text. But now, in > 4.10, if I hold down the down arrow, it goes no faster than one message a > second--is this b/c it has to redraw the screen each time, and it didn't > used to (I thought I saw a post about this before)? Or is there some sort > of "message-check-rate=n" feature I don't know about? This is about the > only major change that I find non-optimal. This, is also a change that is almost certianly not WITHIN Pine, but certianly could be part of the system. I did play with using IMAP in 3.96, and it WAS incredibly slow (as you describe it), so I suspect this is something to do with something like that... > I mention these two as they seem related, and make checking large folders > a chore when they didn't use to be--not only can I not zip through a > folder of 1,000 messages, but now I have to wait for all the keystrokes to > clear up (if I held the down key down that is) before I can move to the > next folder! A double whammy! I suspect that they are related, problem 1) you notice because of problem 2). Problem 2) probably has been created because of a change on how your servers are working, which also may have something to do with problem 1 also... Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. List manager: majordomo@ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca send command help ---- To get help with majordomo or lists ---- To get a list of all lists on server. WWW: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon May 3 07:41:44 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 May 1999 07:41:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA08357 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 07:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA29606 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 07:41:42 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id HAA10681; Mon, 3 May 1999 07:39:51 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA41322 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 07:36:18 -0700 Received: from watsol.cc.columbia.edu (IDENT:cu789@watsol.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.39.139]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA11669 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 07:36:18 -0700 Received: from localhost (bino@localhost) by watsol.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14235; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:36:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:35:59 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Bino Gopal To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: A couple more questions (was Re: 143686Q: Pine Collection Lists (fwd)) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: bino@columbia.edu X-To: Jessica Rasku X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi Jessica, Thanks for the response. Comments in-line. On Sun, 2 May 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: > On Sun, 2 May 1999, Bino Gopal wrote: > > > On a similar note then, know anything about why Pine queues all keystrokes > > made to the console? It didn't use to do this, and is very troublesome. I > > accidentally dropped something on the keyboard one day, and sat there > > helplessly for _*five minutes*_ as Pine tried to scroll down past the last > > message in my folder! The next time that happened, I just killed that > > Pine session and started over. AFAIK, this was not present in 3.95... Is > > this a bug or a new feature? > > This is neithe a bug, nor a new feature. This is NOT a Pine > feature, this is an opperating system feature. It is possible that with > the upgrade to 4.10 other changes happened on your system. I do doubt > that it is as major as you sugest (that it didn't used to buffer the > standard IO, and now it does), but what do I know... I figured that it might be an OS thing too, though a cursory inquiry at the time of the upgrade didn't reveal any new OS changes. But when you say "I do doubt it is as major as you suggest"--thrust me--it IS! I understand what you're saying about buffering standard IO, but it's as if there is also a set delay introduced between the exceution of each keystroke--it is INCREDIBLY annoying! On another system that is still running 3.95, I can go into a folder with lots of messages, view one, and hold the 'N' key to scroll through the messages at lightning speed--and as soon as I hit 'I' I'm instantly in the Index. But on the system running 4.10, if I try that, I wait about 1 second between the next message redraws, and that's crazy! Not only that, but if I hold down that 'N' key, then if I decide I want to go to the Index, I have to wait for all the queued keystrokes to go through, and you can imagine how annoying that is--it's also pretty detrimental to efficient mail reading, which I need for work... > > Does this also have to do with the fact that Pine is now incredibly slow > > when checking message? What I mean is, in 3.95 (again :), if I was in a > > folder of 1,000 messages, I could just hold the down arrow, and it would > > zoom through them, while I looked for out-of-place text. But now, in > > 4.10, if I hold down the down arrow, it goes no faster than one message a > > second--is this b/c it has to redraw the screen each time, and it didn't > > used to (I thought I saw a post about this before)? Or is there some sort > > of "message-check-rate=n" feature I don't know about? This is about the > > only major change that I find non-optimal. > > This, is also a change that is almost certianly not WITHIN Pine, > but certianly could be part of the system. I did play with using IMAP in > 3.96, and it WAS incredibly slow (as you describe it), so I suspect this > is something to do with something like that... Hmmm, ok that would make sense if we switched from POP to IMAP or something, but I could have sworn that we were using IMAP already...I'm checking with our postmasters on this (they're no good at noticing problems as they all use MM anyway) :P > > I mention these two as they seem related, and make checking large folders > > a chore when they didn't use to be--not only can I not zip through a > > folder of 1,000 messages, but now I have to wait for all the keystrokes to > > clear up (if I held the down key down that is) before I can move to the > > next folder! A double whammy! > > I suspect that they are related, problem 1) you notice because of > problem 2). Problem 2) probably has been created because of a change on > how your servers are working, which also may have something to do with > problem 1 also... > > Jessica Well, if you or anyone else has any ideas (Scott? :), that would be great! I'll let you know if I find out anything from postmaster here... Thank you very much. BINO From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon May 3 10:30:33 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA11958 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:30:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA02047 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:30:31 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id KAA19202; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:27:19 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA33740 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:21:04 -0700 Received: from usc.edu (usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA02154 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:21:03 -0700 Received: from Law.USC.EDU (law.usc.edu [128.125.42.6]) by usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id KAA19861; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:21:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from faculty.Law.USC.EDU by Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15459; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:20:59 PDT Received: from l2122.usc.edu by faculty.Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00403; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:20:58 PDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:16:48 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robert Larmon To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Missing text in replies--IGNORE; figured out! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bino Gopal X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: rlarmon@faculty-law.usc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Don't feel bad on this one. Last week a faculty member was pasting a short document from WP8 to Pine with two sets of -- in the main text, and his signature happens to be 8 lines long. Half showed up after the first --, and half after the second --. I'd never seen it before and couldn't stop laughing after staring at it for a minute. I'm a newbie when it comes to sigdashes, so I'd only heard about it until then. RCL On Sun, 2 May 1999, Bino Gopal wrote: > Ooops! Ok, ignore the previous message--I should have paid more > attention! When I noticed that everything after the "-- " was being > stripped, it hit me!: > > "strip-from-sigdashes-on-reply" was enabled. It's just that I'd never > seen it working before, and never used it, so it confused me for a > minute... In any case, as you can see I obviously figured it out, so > ignore my inane babbling. *grin* > > But my other babbling about queued keystrokes and slowness checking > messages still is valid...so don't ignore those! :) > > BINO ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ` Robert Larmon ` ` PC Systems Analyst ` ` USC Law School Computing Services ` ` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue May 4 04:10:17 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 May 1999 04:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id EAA26865 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 04:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id EAA12175 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 04:10:02 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id EAA06309; Tue, 4 May 1999 04:08:31 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id EAA10916 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 04:03:55 -0700 Received: from strike.wu-wien.ac.at (strike.wu-wien.ac.at [137.208.16.200]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id EAA27682 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 04:03:52 -0700 Received: from localhost (leo@localhost) by strike.wu-wien.ac.at (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA25210emf leo@strike.wu-wien.ac.at; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:03:48 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 13:03:48 +0200 (MES) Reply-To: Alexander Bergolth Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Alexander Bergolth To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Bug in unix.c(unix_open) (getting lock from other process) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi! I noticed a bug in imap/src/osdep/unix/unix.c (unix_open): While trying to lock a mailbox, lockname is called first, which also tries to open and lock the file that contains the PID of the other process. If it failes, this fuction closes the pid-file and returns -1, which is assigned to fd in line 393 of unix.c. But if lockname failes and it's the first try to obtain the lock, the file descriptor of the already closed file is used to read the process id which, of course, fails. I have I have added a patch for this below. Cheers, Leo --- /usr/local/src/pine4.10/imap/src/osdep/unix/unix.c Sat Jan 23 05:30:02 1999 +++ imap/src/osdep/unix/unix.c Tue May 4 12:06:02 1999 @@ -393,8 +393,13 @@ if ((fd = lockname (tmp,stream->mailbox,LOCK_EX|LOCK_NB)) < 0) { if (retry-- == KODRETRY) {/* no, first time through? */ /* yes, get other process' PID */ - if (!fstat (fd,&sbuf) && (i = min (sbuf.st_size,MAILTMPLEN)) && - (read (fd,tmp,i) == i) && !(tmp[i] = 0) && (i = atol (tmp))) { + if (((fd= open(tmp, O_RDONLY, 0)) != -1) && + !fstat (fd,&sbuf) && + (i = min (sbuf.st_size,MAILTMPLEN)) && + (read (fd,tmp,i) == i) && + (close(fd) != -1) && + !(tmp[i] = 0) && + (i = atol (tmp))) { kill ((int) i,SIGUSR2); sprintf (tmp,"Trying to get mailbox lock from process %lu",i); mm_log (tmp,WARN); ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Alexander (Leo) Bergolth leo@leo.wu-wien.ac.at WU-Wien - Zentrum fuer Informatikdienste http://leo.wu-wien.ac.at Info Center Linux - because reboots are for hardware changes -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue May 4 11:41:06 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA26232 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:41:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA22196 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:41:03 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA14583; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:37:27 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA36936 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:19:10 -0700 Received: from ns2.dataframe.net (ns2.dataframe.net [208.162.36.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA14826 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:19:09 -0700 Received: by NS2 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:25:26 -0700 Message-Id: <01F0ACB8778CD1118A3C00A0C90575B613E064@NS2> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 11:25:25 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Huang, Sean" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Receiving e-mail message from the Exchange Server MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, Have anyone ever configure a UNIX pine to receive the POP3 email from the NT Exchange server? UNIX machine does not have any mail system working. Exchange server on NT, which is on the different IP address, is the only e-mail system running. Thanks in advance for the assistance. Sean Huang Dataframe Logistics, Inc. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue May 4 12:13:28 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA29023 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:13:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA23066 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:13:26 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA17304; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:09:24 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA48534 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:02:31 -0700 Received: from blkbox.com (swhatley@blkbox.com [206.109.97.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA22946 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:02:30 -0700 Received: from localhost (swhatley@localhost) by blkbox.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA23951; Tue, 4 May 1999 14:02:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:02:28 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steven Whatley To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Receiving e-mail message from the Exchange Server In-Reply-To: <01F0ACB8778CD1118A3C00A0C90575B613E064@NS2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Huang, Sean" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 4 May 1999, Huang, Sean wrote: > Have anyone ever configure a UNIX pine to receive the POP3 email from the NT > Exchange server? UNIX machine does not have any mail system working. > Exchange server on NT, which is on the different IP address, is the only > e-mail system running. Exchange 5.5 supports IMAP4 which Pine prefers to use. Some folks claim they have gotten pine to talk to MS Exchange Server but noone has provided details on how to do it. When I try to connect to an MS Exchange Server, I get a message, "Clear channel (I assume non-encrypted) passwords are not allowed." I suspect I need keberose 5 server on my machine. I don't have root privileges so that won't do me any good. Appearently Pine can be compiled to have Keberose support. Any suggestions? Thanks, Steven -- _|_ | _|_ "I am the way and the truth and the life. | --|-- | No one comes to the Father except through Steven Whatley | | | me. If you really knew me, you would Houston, Texas | know my Father as well. From now on, swhatley@blkbox.com | you do know him and have seen him." http://www.blkbox.com/~swhatley/ -- Jesus Christ (John 14:6-7 NIV) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue May 4 12:27:48 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA02848 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA04648; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:27:45 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA26665; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:26:44 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA70968 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:20:32 -0700 Received: from pacs03.infoave.net (IDENT:26061AF6@pacs03.InfoAve.Net [165.166.0.13]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA28261 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:20:31 -0700 Received: from ipc.condell.com ("port 65495"@[206.151.216.5]) by InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) with SMTP id <01JASYH2J9FSA9W66A@InfoAve.Net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Tue, 4 May 1999 15:19:12 EDT Received: from world.std.com by ipc.condell.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA07024; Tue, 04 May 1999 15:19:11 -0400 Message-Id: <372F485A.ECF62C2C@world.std.com> Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 15:19:54 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jeff A Kinsey To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Receiving e-mail message from the Exchange Server References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Accept-Language: en X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN my two cents worth... i thought i saw in a linux HowTo what was required to connect to a ms-exchange mail system. i cannot remember too much more than that... but i do recall remembering it was possible. -jeff Steven Whatley wrote: > On Tue, 4 May 1999, Huang, Sean wrote: > > Have anyone ever configure a UNIX pine to receive the POP3 email from the NT > > Exchange server? UNIX machine does not have any mail system working. > > Exchange server on NT, which is on the different IP address, is the only > > e-mail system running. > > Exchange 5.5 supports IMAP4 which Pine prefers to use. Some folks claim > they have gotten pine to talk to MS Exchange Server but noone has > provided details on how to do it. > > When I try to connect to an MS Exchange Server, I get a message, "Clear > channel (I assume non-encrypted) passwords are not allowed." I suspect I > need keberose 5 server on my machine. I don't have root privileges so > that won't do me any good. Appearently Pine can be compiled to have > Keberose support. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > Steven > -- > _|_ | _|_ "I am the way and the truth and the life. > | --|-- | No one comes to the Father except through > Steven Whatley | | | me. If you really knew me, you would > Houston, Texas | know my Father as well. From now on, > swhatley@blkbox.com | you do know him and have seen him." > http://www.blkbox.com/~swhatley/ -- Jesus Christ (John 14:6-7 NIV) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue May 4 13:41:36 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA24543 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA25258; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:41:33 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id NAA22187; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:41:24 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA48152 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:38:53 -0700 Received: from ns2.dataframe.net (ns2.dataframe.net [208.162.36.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA19687 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:38:52 -0700 Received: by NS2 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:45:10 -0700 Message-Id: <01F0ACB8778CD1118A3C00A0C90575B613E065@NS2> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 13:45:08 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Huang, Sean" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Receiving e-mail message from the Exchange Server MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The puzzling part is that I can configure it to send out the mail from the exchange server. Hmm... Perhaps that I can configure the UNIX's e-mail and have Exchange relay the message to UNIX? Sean Huang Dataframe Logistics, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Jeff A Kinsey [mailto:jkinsey@world.std.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 12:20 PM To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Receiving e-mail message from the Exchange Server my two cents worth... i thought i saw in a linux HowTo what was required to connect to a ms-exchange mail system. i cannot remember too much more than that... but i do recall remembering it was possible. -jeff Steven Whatley wrote: > On Tue, 4 May 1999, Huang, Sean wrote: > > Have anyone ever configure a UNIX pine to receive the POP3 email from the NT > > Exchange server? UNIX machine does not have any mail system working. > > Exchange server on NT, which is on the different IP address, is the only > > e-mail system running. > > Exchange 5.5 supports IMAP4 which Pine prefers to use. Some folks claim > they have gotten pine to talk to MS Exchange Server but noone has > provided details on how to do it. > > When I try to connect to an MS Exchange Server, I get a message, "Clear > channel (I assume non-encrypted) passwords are not allowed." I suspect I > need keberose 5 server on my machine. I don't have root privileges so > that won't do me any good. Appearently Pine can be compiled to have > Keberose support. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > Steven > -- > _|_ | _|_ "I am the way and the truth and the life. > | --|-- | No one comes to the Father except through > Steven Whatley | | | me. If you really knew me, you would > Houston, Texas | know my Father as well. From now on, > swhatley@blkbox.com | you do know him and have seen him." > http://www.blkbox.com/~swhatley/ -- Jesus Christ (John 14:6-7 NIV) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue May 4 14:10:02 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 May 1999 14:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA09115 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 14:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA26238; Tue, 4 May 1999 14:09:58 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id OAA23819; Tue, 4 May 1999 14:09:49 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA23042 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 14:06:15 -0700 Received: from jemez.lovelace.com (jemez.lovelace.com [206.29.142.11]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA24357 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 14:06:07 -0700 Received: by corp.lovelace.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <285238HZ>; Tue, 4 May 1999 15:04:44 -0600 Message-Id: <3BC62AA0578CD111B75C0000F875345D6F3B94@corp.lovelace.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 15:04:42 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ifversen, Jody M" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Receiving e-mail message from the Exchange Server MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, I have gotten PINE 4.00 (haven't tried newer versions, yet) to talk with an Exchange 5.5 server via IMAP4. PINE is running on a Digital Unix 4.0d server. I am currently in the process of setting up a Sun Solaris server with PINE 4.10 which will also use Exchange as the mail server. (Anyone here good at configuring Solaris for caching-only DNS resolution??) Please contact me for further details. -Jody BTW: For the morbidly curious, I initially got PINE 3.96 running under OpenVMS to talk (via IMAP) with Exchange. This did require some 'non-standard' modifications to PINE in order to accommodate Exchange's lack of some of the older IMAP2 commands. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jody Ifversen Jody.Ifversen@lovelace.com Network Administrator II postmaster@lovelace.com Lovelace Health Systems (505) 262-7655 Albuquerque, NM Fax: (505) 268-2967 ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue May 4 21:27:06 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 May 1999 21:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA10959 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 21:27:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA18368 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 21:27:03 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id VAA11458; Tue, 4 May 1999 21:23:58 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA32506 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 21:19:31 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA16450 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 21:19:31 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id VAA02860 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 21:19:31 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA17927; Tue, 4 May 1999 23:18:12 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 23:18:12 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: sticking on News MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm using Pine 4.10 on SunOS 2.6. When I change folders using ^G (goto), I sometimes make a mistake that can be very annoying. After hitting ^G, I have to hit ^N the right number of times, then enter the name of the folder I want to go to. The ^N cycles through the folder collections as below: GOTO folder in [INBOX] : GOTO folder in [sscp] : GOTO news group in : A minute ago I accidentally hit ^N one two many times and tried to go to folder 'sscp', but I entered it as a newsgroup. It doesn't exist as a newsgroup, so the system just sat there waiting for something to happen. I don't know how long it would take and I didn't want to find out, so I hit ^C a few times and ^Z a few times, but those keystrokes had absolutely no effect. Finally, I opened another telnet window and killed pine. There didn't seem to be another way to get back to work immediately. It would be very nice if pine would process ^C input while it is trying to access newsgroups. That way we could tell it to give up before too much time passes. Thanks again for making pine! Mike -- Michael B. Miller, M.S., Ph.D., M.P.E. Department of Psychology University of Missouri--Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 Phone: (573) 882-5671 web: http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed May 5 12:59:47 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA31869 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA21496; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:59:43 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA11727; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:58:11 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA50786 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:52:53 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA05902 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:52:53 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA04673 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:52:53 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA24149; Wed, 5 May 1999 14:51:33 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 14:51:33 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: major bug in GOTO MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is a highly replicable feature because I just did it three times and it happened every time. It can be pretty devastating. I'm running SunOS 2.6 and Pine 4.10. I was in a '' folder called sscp. I used 'L' to see my Collection List, I selected 'Mail', and that left me in the list of Mail folders with the cursor on 'sscp' (one of my folders). Then I hit 'G' for GoTo, entered the name of another folder in the Mail collection, and hit enter. You'd think it would just go to the next folder, but instead I get the following message: Save the 1075 read messages in "sscp"? Y [Yes] N [No] The problem with that message is that there definitely were no deleted messages in the folder! In fact, there are 1132 messages in the folder and I have no idea how it picked the 1075. The worst of it is that you *must* either 'save' the messages in their own folder, or you must not save them (which means what? I don't know). There is no other choice. So now I just go to another window and kill pine. The first time it happened to me, I said 'Yes' and it spent several minutes generating second copies of the messages in sscp and putting D flags on the first copies of the messages. Is this happening to other people? It might have something to do with the existence of an Incoming Folder with the nickname sscp, but that folder is not being used at the time, so I can't see how it should have an effect. Regards, Mike -- Michael B. Miller University of Missouri--Columbia http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed May 5 19:48:29 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 May 1999 19:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA02408 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 19:48:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA15265; Wed, 5 May 1999 19:48:26 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id TAA05279; Wed, 5 May 1999 19:48:21 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA38102 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 19:45:26 -0700 Received: from ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA11633 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 19:45:24 -0700 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com with ESMTP; Thu, 6 May 1999 10:45:19 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 10:45:19 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: major bug in GOTO In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Miller X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 5 May 1999, Mike Miller wrote: > This is a highly replicable feature because I just did it three times and > it happened every time. It can be pretty devastating. I'm running SunOS > 2.6 and Pine 4.10. I'm "close" at Solaris 2.5.1 and Pine 4.05... :-) > Is this happening to other people? It might have something to do with the > existence of an Incoming Folder with the nickname sscp, but that folder is > not being used at the time, so I can't see how it should have an effect. Doesn't happen here.... Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce GSM: +65-975-10860 Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed May 5 20:54:01 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 May 1999 20:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA05932 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 20:53:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA31907; Wed, 5 May 1999 20:53:54 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id UAA16947; Wed, 5 May 1999 20:53:48 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA32412 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 20:50:23 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA31520 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 20:50:23 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (vzqdwyumbe@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id UAA31874 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 20:50:23 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA28152; Wed, 5 May 1999 22:49:03 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 22:49:02 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: major bug in GOTO MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 5 May 1999, Eduardo Chappa L. wrote to me off list: > You have probably defined that messages from the (incoming) folder sscp > be automatically saved to another folder. It may be that pine is not noting > that sscp is also in your collection list. Maybe changing the name of the > folder sscp in the collection list will solve this problem. Eduardo was right about this. Changing the name of the Mail folder to be different from the nickname of the Incoming folder does prevent the error from occuring. I also discovered the following: The error occurs when I try to use GOTO and I am looking at the list of Mail folders. It does not occur if I use GOTO while I am looking at the Index of a folder. Thus, I believe the programmers recognized this problem and fixed it partially, but didn't catch an instance where it still occurs. Review: Pine 4.10 (SunOS 5.6) sometimes mistakenly treats Mail folders as if they were Incoming folders, but only under certain (replicable) conditions, and this can cause damage to mail folders. My folder was damaged (messages were copied into a different order) but I was able to fix it. Regards, Mike -- Michael B. Miller University of Missouri--Columbia http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed May 5 22:58:15 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 May 1999 22:58:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA08248 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 22:58:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA18220; Wed, 5 May 1999 22:58:11 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id WAA10907; Wed, 5 May 1999 22:58:06 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA123554 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 22:55:20 -0700 Received: from kootcom.kootenay.net (kootcom.kootenay.net [209.52.230.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA14877 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 22:55:19 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kootcom.kootenay.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA18238; Thu, 6 May 1999 05:59:17 GMT Received: from ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca by kootcom.kootenay.net; Wed, 5 May 99 22:59 PDT Received: from localhost (jrasku@localhost) by ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA09633; Wed, 5 May 1999 21:14:21 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: major bug in GOTO In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Edward M Greshko X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 6 May 1999, Edward M Greshko wrote: > On Wed, 5 May 1999, Mike Miller wrote: > > > This is a highly replicable feature because I just did it three times and > > it happened every time. It can be pretty devastating. I'm running SunOS > > 2.6 and Pine 4.10. > > I'm "close" at Solaris 2.5.1 and Pine 4.05... :-) > > > Is this happening to other people? It might have something to do with the > > existence of an Incoming Folder with the nickname sscp, but that folder is > > not being used at the time, so I can't see how it should have an effect. > > Doesn't happen here.... I have a feeling that this is not a bug, but an unintelegent implementatio of a feature. That is, uninteligent in that it doesn't realise that it is saving to the same folder. I recall something somewhere (I don't know where, and I can't find it right now), that there was a way to save read messages to a folder on exit of the folder they are in (that may be the 1075?). I can't locate it right now though... Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. 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WWW: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu May 6 08:54:39 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 May 1999 08:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA24456 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 08:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA10998; Thu, 6 May 1999 08:54:36 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id IAA26672; Thu, 6 May 1999 08:54:26 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA32476 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 08:50:58 -0700 Received: from watsol.cc.columbia.edu (IDENT:cu789@watsol.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.39.139]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA24641 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 08:50:57 -0700 Received: from localhost (bino@localhost) by watsol.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13919; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:49:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 11:49:39 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Bino Gopal To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: major bug in GOTO In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: bino@columbia.edu X-To: Jessica Rasku X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ya, the incoming-archive-folder feature (which incidentally, I can't get to work--even though I've defined the archive folders and set them up and everything...but anyway.. :). The idea is just like you said--you have incoming folders, and upon reading the messages and exiting the folder, it'll ask you if you want to save those messages to the archive folder...there are a couple of options you can set wrt this feature, but I forget exactly (since I haven't been able to get it to work :P ). I'm sure someone else can provide more details, or you can check the help for "archive". BINO On Wed, 5 May 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: > I have a feeling that this is not a bug, but an unintelegent > implementatio of a feature. That is, uninteligent in that it doesn't > realise that it is saving to the same folder. I recall something > somewhere (I don't know where, and I can't find it right now), that there > was a way to save read messages to a folder on exit of the folder they are > in (that may be the 1075?). I can't locate it right now though... > > Jessica From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 May 1999 09:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA17566 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 09:36:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA29614; Thu, 6 May 1999 09:36:55 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id JAA21326; Thu, 6 May 1999 09:36:48 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA31456 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 09:29:18 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA26054 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 09:29:18 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (tioijoqahu@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id JAA11881 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 09:29:18 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA23837; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:27:55 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 11:27:55 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: major bug in GOTO In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I hope the Pine development team is not being distracted by these comments about "features". The problem could be called "an unintelligent implementation of a feature," but it is really a simple bug that needs to be fixed. The problem only arises under a very particular set of circumstances (as delineated in my last message). I appreciate the comments of the other writers, but they should look closely at my last message and see if I'm not describing a bug. My previous message is appended. Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 22:49:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Miller To: PINE-INFO list Subject: Re: major bug in GOTO On Wed, 5 May 1999, Eduardo Chappa L. wrote to me off list: > You have probably defined that messages from the (incoming) folder sscp > be automatically saved to another folder. It may be that pine is not noting > that sscp is also in your collection list. Maybe changing the name of the > folder sscp in the collection list will solve this problem. Eduardo was right about this. Changing the name of the Mail folder to be different from the nickname of the Incoming folder does prevent the error from occuring. I also discovered the following: The error occurs when I try to use GOTO and I am looking at the list of Mail folders. It does not occur if I use GOTO while I am looking at the Index of a folder. Thus, I believe the programmers recognized this problem and fixed it partially, but didn't catch an instance where it still occurs. Review: Pine 4.10 (SunOS 5.6) sometimes mistakenly treats Mail folders as if they were Incoming folders, but only under certain (replicable) conditions, and this can cause damage to mail folders. My folder was damaged (messages were copied into a different order) but I was able to fix it. Regards, Mike -- Michael B. Miller University of Missouri--Columbia http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:38:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA20747 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:38:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA15315; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:38:46 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA28101; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:38:33 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA39300 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:33:56 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA21575 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:33:56 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (qizbdsmcyd@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA15155 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:33:55 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA03690; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:32:34 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 13:32:34 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: keeping full name in To: field MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Here's a strange little quirk of Pine that seems to have been present at least since 3.95. Maybe there's already a box I can check to fix this, but I don't know where it is. If someone sends me a message with, for example, this: From: c723356@showme.missouri.edu in the header and I reply to it, it will keep the same address and put it in the To: field. Good. But if I move my cursor to the To: field, and the individual is in my address book, it alters the To: field accordingly: To: Tim Morgan I *like* that and I want it to stay as it is when I fcc the message. This is the problem: when the message is saved, the full name "Tim Morgan" in this case, is deleted and only the address is saved in the header of the fcc'd message. (As shown below.) Can't I make it keep the full name in the header? Do I really have to delete it and re-enter it? Thanks, Mike ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 13:25:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Miller To: c723356@showme.missouri.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 May 1999 10:22:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA09008 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 10:22:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA09444; Fri, 7 May 1999 10:22:46 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id KAA00994; Fri, 7 May 1999 10:22:32 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA08494 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 10:18:15 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA10859 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 10:18:15 -0700 Received: from localhost (hubert@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA20872; Fri, 7 May 1999 10:18:12 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 10:18:11 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: keeping full name in To: field In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Miller X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Mike, Thanks for letting us know about this. It will be fixed in the next Pine release. To work around the problem you don't quite have to delete it and re-enter it, you just have to do something to the line. You could add and delete a character (leaving it the same as before you added and deleted). -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Thu, 6 May 1999, Mike Miller wrote: > [...] > Good. But if I move my cursor to the To: field, and > the individual is in my address book, it alters the To: field accordingly: > > To: Tim Morgan > > I *like* that and I want it to stay as it is when I fcc the message. This > is the problem: when the message is saved, the full name "Tim Morgan" in > this case, is deleted and only the address is saved in the header of the > fcc'd message. (As shown below.) > > Can't I make it keep the full name in the header? Do I really have to > delete it and re-enter it? > > Thanks, > > Mike From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 May 1999 17:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA15500 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 17:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA07543; Fri, 7 May 1999 17:42:35 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id RAA15722; Fri, 7 May 1999 17:42:03 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA18886 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 17:37:26 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA31920 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 17:37:26 -0700 Received: from mail.asianexplorer.com.au (asi24111-2.gw.connect.com.au [202.21.8.207]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA20019 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 17:37:24 -0700 Received: from florence (unverified [192.168.1.80]) by mail.asianexplorer.com.au (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.7) with SMTP id ; Sat, 08 May 1999 10:42:02 +1000 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Sat, 8 May 1999 10:33:56 +1000 Message-Id: <01BE993E.46681180.florence@asianexplorer.com.au> Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 10:33:55 +1000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Florence Lee To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: hylafax and pine 3.96 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "'pine'" X-Cc: "'pine-info@u.washington.edu'" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN ASIAN EXPLORER HOLIDAYS 6 WATTS STREET BOX HILL VIC 3128 TEL 9245 0791 FAX 9245 0780 E-MAIL florence@asianexplorer.com.au flee88@yahoo.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- is pine 3.96 YEAR 2K COMPLIANT IS HALIFAX ALSO YEAR 2K COMPLIANT Thanks & Regards Florence -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 May 1999 05:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA02512 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 05:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA15283; Sun, 9 May 1999 05:42:35 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id FAA21642; Sun, 9 May 1999 05:42:28 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA47496 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 05:39:15 -0700 Received: from sobhan.bol.sharif.ac.ir ([194.225.42.50]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA01697 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 05:37:38 -0700 Received: from localhost (majid@localhost) by sobhan.bol.sharif.ac.ir (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA00243 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 17:09:16 +0430 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 17:09:13 +0430 (IDT) Reply-To: majid@bol.sharif.ac.ir Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Majid Tajamolian To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Date substitution in signature MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sobhan.bol.sharif.ac.ir: majid owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear LIST: I am using Pine 4.10 on Linux 2.0.30. I have a ".signature" file with the following contents: M. Tajamolian _longdate_ But I find out that Pine substitutes the _longdate_ phrase only when I replying a mail, no for from scratch composed mails. What is the source of this problem? Can anyone help me? -- THX in advance, M. Tajamolian -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 May 1999 05:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA04859 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 05:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA04590; Sun, 9 May 1999 05:55:00 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id FAA21932; Sun, 9 May 1999 05:54:54 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA37982 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 05:51:49 -0700 Received: from sobhan.bol.sharif.ac.ir ([194.225.42.50]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA02029 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 05:50:14 -0700 Received: from localhost (majid@localhost) by sobhan.bol.sharif.ac.ir (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA00264 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 17:21:49 +0430 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 17:21:47 +0430 (IDT) Reply-To: majid@bol.sharif.ac.ir Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Majid Tajamolian To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Mailbox vulnerable (what is meaning?!) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sobhan.bol.sharif.ac.ir: majid owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear LIST: I am using Pine 4.10 on Linux 2.0.30 and my INBOX is defined as follows in the ".pinerc" file: inbox-path={peik:143/user=majid}INBOX Peik is our IMAP server and I had not any problems with it till our administrator upgraded the Peik machine to Linux version 2.0.34 (RedHat 5.1). Since that upgrade, I receive the following error message from Pine while trying open my INBOX at the Peik machine: Mailbox vulnerable - error What is meaning of "Mailbox vulnerable"? What is source of this problem? Any Help?! -- THX in advance, M. Tajamolian -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 May 1999 00:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id AAA14510 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 00:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id AAA22067; Mon, 10 May 1999 00:52:29 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id AAA13149; Mon, 10 May 1999 00:52:12 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id AAA18824 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 00:49:08 -0700 Received: from sobhan.bol.sharif.ac.ir ([194.225.42.50]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id AAA11422 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 00:47:51 -0700 Received: from localhost (majid@localhost) by sobhan.bol.sharif.ac.ir (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA00171; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:17:54 +0430 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:17:53 +0430 (IDT) Reply-To: majid@bol.sharif.ac.ir Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Majid Tajamolian To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Mailbox vulnerable (what is meaning?!) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Joe H X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sobhan.bol.sharif.ac.ir: majid owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Joe: THX a lot for your guide. OK, it had 660 permissions and the problem was overcomed when I changed it to 600. But a question: Is it a true behavior? Why PINE is sesitive to the group permissions while the group id of mailbox files is "mail" which is a system related and predefined group. I tested them and saw that only owner of mailbox had access to it at the following case: -rw-rw---- 1 majid mail 0 May 10 12:02 majid Is it a bug in PINE or ...?! -- Cheers, M. Tajamolian May 10, 1999 On Mon, 10 May 1999, Joe H wrote: > Check the permissions on your mailbox (INBOX=) /var/spool/mail/majid > and ensure that they are of type 600. If not, do a > > > chmod 600 /var/spool/mail/majid > > > > jOey > > On Sun, 9 May 1999, Majid Tajamolian wrote: > > > Dear LIST: > > I am using Pine 4.10 on Linux 2.0.30 and my INBOX is defined as follows in > > the ".pinerc" file: > > > > inbox-path={peik:143/user=majid}INBOX > > > > Peik is our IMAP server and I had not any problems with it till our > > administrator upgraded the Peik machine to Linux version 2.0.34 (RedHat > > 5.1). Since that upgrade, I receive the following error message from Pine > > while trying open my INBOX at the Peik machine: > > > > Mailbox vulnerable - error > > > > What is meaning of "Mailbox vulnerable"? What is source of this problem? > > Any Help?! > > > > -- THX in advance, > > M. Tajamolian > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 May 1999 02:55:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id CAA17409 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 02:55:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id CAA00394; Mon, 10 May 1999 02:55:12 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id CAA05566; Mon, 10 May 1999 02:55:02 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id CAA41348 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 02:52:39 -0700 Received: from mail.vibroplant.co.uk.vibroplant.co.uk (mail.vibroplant.co.uk [195.153.171.162]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id CAA14436 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 02:52:38 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:47:20 +0000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: ncropp@vibroplant.co.uk To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re[2]: Mailbox vulnerable (what is meaning?!) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 101" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there a way to stop pine complaining about IMAP directory=20 permissions? I don't want to change the permissions (since they are=20 correct from the sys end and several programs use those directories)=20 but I don't want my IMAP users being misled by pc-pine into thinking=20 there's a security problem=2E =20 thanks, Nick -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:02:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA00898 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:02:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA15060; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:02:19 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id SAA26350; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:02:08 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA32316 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:57:17 -0700 Received: from kootcom.kootenay.net (kootcom.kootenay.net [209.52.230.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA04716 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:57:10 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kootcom.kootenay.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA28980; Tue, 11 May 1999 01:01:05 GMT Received: from ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca by kootcom.kootenay.net; Mon, 10 May 99 18:01 PDT Received: from localhost (jrasku@localhost) by ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16615; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:36:45 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:36:44 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Re[2]: Mailbox vulnerable (what is meaning?!) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: ncropp@vibroplant.co.uk X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 10 May 1999 ncropp@vibroplant.co.uk wrote: > Is there a way to stop pine complaining about IMAP directory > permissions? I don't want to change the permissions (since they are > correct from the sys end and several programs use those directories) > but I don't want my IMAP users being misled by pc-pine into thinking > there's a security problem. I thought that the correct permissions for the directory were 1777, someone just said that 600 is correct. Am I confused, or are we talking about diffrent things? Would changing the permissions to satisfy Pine cause any problems with anything else on the system thinking that the permissions were not right? Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. 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WWW: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 May 1999 05:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA11932 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 05:46:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA27140; Tue, 11 May 1999 05:46:54 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id FAA01777; Tue, 11 May 1999 05:46:39 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA127022 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 05:43:32 -0700 Received: from nyntq1.tink.com (SYSTEM@mail2.new-york.net [165.254.101.54]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA15682 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 05:43:31 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com ("port 1111"@aleph.ii.com) by mail2.new-york.net (PMDF V5.1-10 #22883) with ESMTP id <01JB2COSN3SC8WXFM5@mail2.new-york.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Tue, 11 May 1999 08:43:26 EDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 08:43:09 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: minor status msg bug MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: ii@shell13.ba.best.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN When I type U in the message index or while viewing a message, I get this status message: [Deletion mark removed, message won't be deleted] whether there's a deletion mark or not. This just happened to me while I was viewing a message and it was disconcerting because it was a message that I would have been upset about if it had been marked for deletion. I went out to the index to see if I had accidentally marked some other messages for deletion too. So, my request is that if someone types U and a message is not marked for deletion, Pine produces a status message like this: [Message not marked for deletion; no action taken] Thanks, Nancy -- For Pine info & links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ ŠNancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink --= Sent via PINE: Power Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 May 1999 06:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA07200 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 06:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA27578; Tue, 11 May 1999 06:17:31 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id GAA13739; Tue, 11 May 1999 06:17:12 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA31038 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 06:13:16 -0700 Received: from helix.mgh.harvard.edu (helix.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.108.14]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA24333 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 06:13:15 -0700 Received: from localhost by helix.mgh.harvard.edu (8.8.7/1.1.20.3/31Dec98-1151AM) id JAA0000019974; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:12:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Dennis Gurgul To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: minor status msg bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: Nancy McGough X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN When I do it it says this: [Can't undelete a message that isn't deleted] Dennis J. Gurgul Helix Server Management 617.724.3169 On Tue, 11 May 1999, Nancy McGough wrote: > When I type U in the message index or while viewing a message, I get > this status message: >=20 > [Deletion mark removed, message won't be deleted] >=20 > whether there's a deletion mark or not. This just happened to me while > I was viewing a message and it was disconcerting because it was a > message that I would have been upset about if it had been marked for > deletion. I went out to the index to see if I had accidentally marked > some other messages for deletion too. So, my request is that if > someone types U and a message is not marked for deletion, Pine > produces a status message like this: >=20 > [Message not marked for deletion; no action taken] >=20 > Thanks, > Nancy >=20 > --=20 > For Pine info & links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ > =20 > =A9Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink > --=3D Sent via PINE: Power Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =3D-- >=20 > --=20 > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:=20 > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 May 1999 06:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA10978 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 06:52:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA32393; Tue, 11 May 1999 06:52:12 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id GAA14136; Tue, 11 May 1999 06:52:00 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA31134 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 06:48:56 -0700 Received: from ns1.cdc.com (ns1.cdc.com [150.143.16.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA27219 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 06:48:55 -0700 Received: from [129.179.17.10] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Tue, 11 May 1999 08:48:50 -0500 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com with ESMTP; Tue, 11 May 1999 21:48:47 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 21:48:47 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: minor status msg bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Dennis Gurgul X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 11 May 1999, Dennis Gurgul wrote: > When I do it it says this: > > [Can't undelete a message that isn't deleted] You are running Pine3.95. Nancy is running Pine4.10. Yes, bring back the 3.95 behaviour. Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA15948 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA05356; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:43:28 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id KAA27743; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:43:13 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA23272 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:38:47 -0700 Received: from jemez.lovelace.com (jemez.lovelace.com [206.29.142.11]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA21197 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:38:46 -0700 Received: by corp.lovelace.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <2852P1WZ>; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:37:20 -0600 Message-Id: <3BC62AA0578CD111B75C0000F875345D6F3BA2@corp.lovelace.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:37:12 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ifversen, Jody M" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Receiving e-mail message from the Exchange Server MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" X-To: "'Steven Whatley'" , "'Huang, Sean'" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum (E-mail)" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN OK. I apologize for the delay in reply, but I wanted to finish configuring my SUN system first. In order to access an MS Exchange server using PINE you must have version 4.xx. I did modify 3.96 (on VMS) to work, but it was less than ideal, and did not provide support for using the Exchange directory. Within the .pinerc file for version 4.xx, I modified the following entries: inbox-path={imap.lovelace.com/user=xxxx} rsh-open-timeout=0 <-you may need to add this folder-collections=Exchange {imap.lovelace.com/user=xxxx}[] If you have added support for LDAP, the following entry also needs to be changed ldap-servers=ldap.lovelace.com "/base=/impl=1/rhs=0/ref=0/type=name-or-email/srch=contains/time=/size=/cust =/nick=" Of course, you would need to make the appropriate adjustments based on your server name(s), but I believe these were the only settings required for connection to the Exchange server. Remember, YMMV. Also, you must be certain that the Directory Name (from the Advance Tab of Mailbox properties within Exchange Administrator) matches the NT Username, or you will not be able to connect. (At least, this is my experience.) PINE and Exchange are by no means an ideal pairing. As a matter of fact, I am still fighting a very interesting problem where certain messages are truncated within PINE while reading. (The message is OK if viewed with MS Outlook.) I have been unable to find any particular correlation between where messages get truncated (not all do) and something specific embedded in that part of the message. Any ideas from the PINE developers on this one?? Good luck, and let me know if you are still having trouble. There are other settings I change in my .pinerc, but I don't think they are specific to Exchange. -Jody BTW: Is there any way to have the /user=xxxx username filled in from the Unix login name or a shell variable? I would like to create a generic pine.conf-fixed with this info if it can be done. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jody Ifversen Jody.Ifversen@lovelace.com Network Administrator II postmaster@lovelace.com Lovelace Health Systems (505) 262-7655 Albuquerque, NM Fax: (505) 268-2967 ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:10:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA11673 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA04209; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:10:36 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA22942; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:10:06 -0700 Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (root@jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA34226 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:05:58 -0700 Received: from dante42.u.washington.edu (leibrand@dante42.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.202]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA24664; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:05:57 -0700 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by dante42.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA35440; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:05:57 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:05:57 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Receiving e-mail message from the Exchange Server In-Reply-To: <3BC62AA0578CD111B75C0000F875345D6F3BA2@corp.lovelace.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Ifversen, Jody M" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 11 May 1999, Ifversen, Jody M wrote: > BTW: Is there any way to have the /user=xxxx username filled in from the > Unix login name or a shell variable? I would like to create a generic > pine.conf-fixed with this info if it can be done. > If the xxxx in /user=xxxx matches your login name, the /user=xxxx flag isn't even necessary, is it? By default, Pine fills in the name you used to log on to the machine Pine's running from, at least on the machines I've run it on. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu How to contact me: http://students.washington.edu/leibrand/howtocontactme.html * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA17295 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA04533; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:23:06 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA03611; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:22:37 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA11218 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:19:51 -0700 Received: from issfire.co.palm-beach.fl.us (issfire.co.palm-beach.fl.us [151.132.50.198]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA09848 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:19:50 -0700 Received: from issfire.co.palm-beach.fl.us (root@localhost) by issfire.co.palm-beach.fl.us with ESMTP id PAA24115 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:19:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ermasotelo.co.palm-beach.fl.us ([151.132.16.86]) by issfire.co.palm-beach.fl.us with SMTP id PAA24111 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:19:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <373882AB.3DC4@co.palm-beach.fl.us> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:19:07 -0400 Reply-To: asotelo@co.palm-beach.fl.us Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Alex Sotelo To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: How to view html attachments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I often get e-mail with attachments that look like: [Part 1, Text/HTML 159 lines] [Cannot display this part. Press "V" then "S" to save in a file] and I have to save it, quit pine and then get into lynx and open the file. Isn't there a way to specify a html viewer in the settings or something, kind of like when you specify the editor? Thank you. -- Alex Sotelo -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA17953 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA04651; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:27:10 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA03971; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:26:44 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA126834 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:21:26 -0700 Received: from blkbox.com (swhatley@blkbox.com [206.109.97.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA07885 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:21:25 -0700 Received: from localhost (swhatley@localhost) by blkbox.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA17332; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:21:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:21:09 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steven Whatley To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Receiving e-mail message from the Exchange Server In-Reply-To: <3BC62AA0578CD111B75C0000F875345D6F3BA2@corp.lovelace.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Ifversen, Jody M" X-Cc: "'Huang, Sean'" , "Pine Discussion Forum (E-mail)" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 11 May 1999, Ifversen, Jody M wrote: > Within the .pinerc file for version 4.xx, I modified the following entries: > > inbox-path={imap.lovelace.com/user=xxxx} > rsh-open-timeout=0 <-you may need to add this > folder-collections=Exchange {imap.lovelace.com/user=xxxx}[] Thanks for getting back with us. But, I've had those lines in my .pinerc months ago. The problem is that it seems that the Exchange server I'm trying to access has username/password encryption turned on. I get the following message when connecting: [>Clear text passwords have been disabled for this protocol<] So I think I need to compile Pine with Keberose 5 support. But, I don't think Solaris 2.6 comes with Keberose 5 on it I think it has krb4 or less.. I don't have root access to my system and there is no way I can talk to this site's Exchange admins much less get them to make any changes to the Exchange server. I realize security can be a touchy subject. I'm not trying to bypass any security. Just trying to figure out how to get pine to do the proper encryption. Any ideas? Thanks, Steven -- _|_ | _|_ "I am the way and the truth and the life. | --|-- | No one comes to the Father except through Steven Whatley | | | me. If you really knew me, you would Houston, Texas | know my Father as well. From now on, swhatley@blkbox.com | you do know him and have seen him." http://www.blkbox.com/~swhatley/ -- Jesus Christ (John 14:6-7 NIV) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:48:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA13696 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA05269; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:48:52 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA06187; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:48:30 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA92808 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:45:18 -0700 Received: from jemez.lovelace.com (jemez.lovelace.com [206.29.142.11]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA14423 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:45:17 -0700 Received: by corp.lovelace.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <2852P177>; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:43:55 -0600 Message-Id: <3BC62AA0578CD111B75C0000F875345D6F3BA3@corp.lovelace.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:43:49 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ifversen, Jody M" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Receiving e-mail message from the Exchange Server MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Leibrand [mailto:leibrand@u.washington.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 1:06 PM > To: Ifversen, Jody M > Cc: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: RE: Receiving e-mail message from the Exchange Server > > > On Tue, 11 May 1999, Ifversen, Jody M wrote: > > > BTW: Is there any way to have the /user=xxxx username > filled in from the > > Unix login name or a shell variable? I would like to > create a generic > > pine.conf-fixed with this info if it can be done. > > > > If the xxxx in /user=xxxx matches your login name, the /user=xxxx flag > isn't even necessary, is it? By default, Pine fills in the > name you used > to log on to the machine Pine's running from, at least on the machines > I've run it on. Duhhh!! I guess I should have tried it this way first. The copy of 3.96 that I modified for use with Exchange would continuously prompt for the username/password whenever moving between folders if the username wasn't included in the server specification. Of course this could have been related to my modifications. :) Nevermiinnndd!! -Jody -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jody Ifversen Jody.Ifversen@lovelace.com Network Administrator II postmaster@lovelace.com Lovelace Health Systems (505) 262-7655 Albuquerque, NM Fax: (505) 268-2967 ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:58:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA18265 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:58:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA05496; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:58:25 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA06110; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:58:00 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA113134 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:55:06 -0700 Received: from jemez.lovelace.com (jemez.lovelace.com [206.29.142.11]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA23284 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:55:05 -0700 Received: by corp.lovelace.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <2852P18K>; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:53:35 -0600 Message-Id: <3BC62AA0578CD111B75C0000F875345D6F3BA4@corp.lovelace.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:53:31 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ifversen, Jody M" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Receiving e-mail message from the Exchange Server MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" X-To: "'Steven Whatley'" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum (E-mail)" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven Whatley [mailto:swhatley@blkbox.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 1:21 PM > To: Ifversen, Jody M > Cc: 'Huang, Sean'; Pine Discussion Forum (E-mail) > Subject: RE: Receiving e-mail message from the Exchange Server > > months ago. The problem is that it seems that the Exchange server I'm > trying to access has username/password encryption turned on. > I get the > following message when connecting: > > [>Clear text passwords have been disabled for this protocol<] > Yeah, I guess that could be a problem. Due to the way our network is setup, we weren't overly concerned with having clear-text passwords on the wire internally. > So I think I need to compile Pine with Keberose 5 support. > But, I don't > think Solaris 2.6 comes with Keberose 5 on it I think it has krb4 or > less.. I don't have root access to my system and there is no way I can > talk to this site's Exchange admins much less get them to > make any changes > to the Exchange server. > I don't know if Kerberos will help any either. I know that Exchange 5.5 supports 3 types of authentication out of the box. Clear-text, NT Challenge-Response (probably what your site is using), and MCIS Membership. Each of these can be enabled with and/or without SSL. Unfortunately, I don't really have the time right now to try other combinations of authentication to see what can/cannot work with PINE. Perhaps a third party has written a Kerberos mechanism for Exchange? If I get the chance in the next couple of days, I will check on this. -Jody -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jody Ifversen Jody.Ifversen@lovelace.com Network Administrator II postmaster@lovelace.com Lovelace Health Systems (505) 262-7655 Albuquerque, NM Fax: (505) 268-2967 ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA10570 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:10:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA09153; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:10:54 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id NAA27640; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:10:31 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA44704 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:07:32 -0700 Received: from min.net (root@min.net [208.222.210.19]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA18268 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:07:31 -0700 Received: from min.net (berman@min.net [208.222.210.19]) by min.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06729 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:07:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:07:30 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Morris Berman To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RSH on PC Pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there a way to configure PC Pine (V4.10) to use rsh as the access method to get to an IMAP server? I have rsh program on my PC (from hummingbird). -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, berman@min.net '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:59:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA13215 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA16366; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:59:28 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id RAA16422; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:59:12 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA31964 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:56:04 -0700 Received: from ns1.interq.or.jp (kevin@ns1.interq.or.jp [210.157.0.14]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA05512 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:56:03 -0700 Received: from localhost (kevin@localhost) by ns1.interq.or.jp (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27304 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 09:56:00 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:55:59 +0900 (JST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Kevin Ying To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: minor status msg bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 11 May 1999, Edward M Greshko wrote: > On Tue, 11 May 1999, Dennis Gurgul wrote: > > > When I do it it says this: > > > > [Can't undelete a message that isn't deleted] > > You are running Pine3.95. Nancy is running Pine4.10. > > Yes, bring back the 3.95 behaviour. > Ah, I'm not the only one who noticed this... slightly disconcerting and not a show stopper but it would be nice if it reported the right status. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 May 1999 21:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA21959 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 21:45:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA17543; Tue, 11 May 1999 21:45:02 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id VAA23318; Tue, 11 May 1999 21:44:49 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA21314 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 21:41:46 -0700 Received: from kootcom.kootenay.net (kootcom.kootenay.net [209.52.230.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA22217 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 21:41:46 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kootcom.kootenay.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA07370; Wed, 12 May 1999 04:46:08 GMT Received: from ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca by kootcom.kootenay.net; Tue, 11 May 99 21:46 PDT Received: from localhost (jrasku@localhost) by ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA25440; Tue, 11 May 1999 21:30:59 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 21:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: minor status msg bug In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Dennis Gurgul X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 11 May 1999, Dennis Gurgul wrote: > > When I do it it says this: > > [Can't undelete a message that isn't deleted] This seems to be a change that has happened between 3.95, and 4.05... Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. List manager: majordomo@ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca send command help ---- To get help with majordomo or lists ---- To get a list of all lists on server. WWW: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA07078 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA32482; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:42:47 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id KAA27874; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:41:25 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA122122 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:34:51 -0700 Received: from usc.edu (usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA02805 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:34:51 -0700 Received: from Law.USC.EDU (law.usc.edu [128.125.42.6]) by usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id KAA00109 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from faculty.Law.USC.EDU by Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13786; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:34:49 PDT Received: from l2122.usc.edu by faculty.Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25542; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:34:48 PDT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:34:42 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robert Larmon To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PC Pine 4.10 anomoly (fwd) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: rlarmon@faculty-law.usc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi all, A user had this problem that my co-worker describes below... >FYI, > >Interesting problem. Vicki was replying to a message that included 31 >CC'd recipients. She pressed "R", the recipient list dropped down and >there was one blank line displayed on the page to start typing text. >When >she started typing, the cursor moved but no text appeared. However, when >hard returning down a couple of lines the typed text would appear. >This was repeated several times. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks, RCL ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ` Robert Larmon ` ` PC Systems Analyst ` ` USC Law School Computing Services ` ` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:34:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA09813 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA01443; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:34:25 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA23454; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:33:45 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA41910 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:25:46 -0700 Received: from issfire.co.palm-beach.fl.us (issfire.co.palm-beach.fl.us [151.132.50.198]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA02319 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:25:45 -0700 Received: from issfire.co.palm-beach.fl.us (root@localhost) by issfire.co.palm-beach.fl.us with ESMTP id OAA13211 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:25:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ermasotelo.co.palm-beach.fl.us ([151.132.16.86]) by issfire.co.palm-beach.fl.us with SMTP id OAA13207 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:25:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3739C779.7B62@co.palm-beach.fl.us> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:24:57 -0400 Reply-To: asotelo@co.palm-beach.fl.us Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Alex Sotelo To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: [Fwd: PC Pine 4.10 anomoly (fwd)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------1AB5396C7447" X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1AB5396C7447 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This has happened to me before, the problem is not with pine, but it is how you are connected to it. In my particular case, my telnet program "missed" one or two "escape codes" to display the right character on the right line, and all the screen looks and acts different. If it happens again, type CTRL-L this refreshes the screen and clears up garbled text. -- Alex Sotelo Thought of the day: "Whatever happened to Preparations A through G?" --------------1AB5396C7447 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from issfire.co.palm-beach.fl.us ([151.132.23.198]) by co.palm-beach.fl.us; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:43:55 -0400 Received: from issfire.co.palm-beach.fl.us (root@localhost) by issfire.co.palm-beach.fl.us with ESMTP id NAA08291 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:43:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by issfire.co.palm-beach.fl.us with ESMTP id NAA08286 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:43:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id KAA18628; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:42:15 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA122122 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:34:51 -0700 Received: from usc.edu (usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA02805 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:34:51 -0700 Received: from Law.USC.EDU (law.usc.edu [128.125.42.6]) by usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id KAA00109 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from faculty.Law.USC.EDU by Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13786; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:34:49 PDT Received: from l2122.usc.edu by faculty.Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25542; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:34:48 PDT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:34:42 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robert Larmon To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PC Pine 4.10 anomoly (fwd) X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: rlarmon@faculty-law.usc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi all, A user had this problem that my co-worker describes below... >FYI, > >Interesting problem. Vicki was replying to a message that included 31 >CC'd recipients. She pressed "R", the recipient list dropped down and >there was one blank line displayed on the page to start typing text. >When >she started typing, the cursor moved but no text appeared. However, when >hard returning down a couple of lines the typed text would appear. >This was repeated several times. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks, RCL ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ` Robert Larmon ` ` PC Systems Analyst ` ` USC Law School Computing Services ` ` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' --=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:=20 http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- --------------1AB5396C7447-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA09536 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA03730; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:44:45 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA02791; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:44:27 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA18878 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:40:45 -0700 Received: from usc.edu (usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA15313 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:40:44 -0700 Received: from Law.USC.EDU (law.usc.edu [128.125.42.6]) by usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id LAA00799; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from faculty.Law.USC.EDU by Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14621; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:40:38 PDT Received: from l2122.usc.edu by faculty.Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27113; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:40:37 PDT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:40:31 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robert Larmon To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: [Fwd: PC Pine 4.10 anomoly (fwd)] In-Reply-To: <3739C779.7B62@co.palm-beach.fl.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Alex Sotelo X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: rlarmon@faculty-law.usc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Have you tried this for PC-Pine also? RCL On Wed, 12 May 1999, Alex Sotelo wrote: > This has happened to me before, the problem is not with pine, but it is > how you are connected to it. In my particular case, my telnet program > "missed" one or two "escape codes" to display the right character on the > right line, and all the screen looks and acts different. If it happens > again, type CTRL-L this refreshes the screen and clears up garbled text. > > -- > Alex Sotelo > Thought of the day: > "Whatever happened to Preparations A through G?" > ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ` Robert Larmon ` ` PC Systems Analyst ` ` USC Law School Computing Services ` ` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:50:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA10201 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA03922; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:50:52 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA02865; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:50:00 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA28058 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:45:44 -0700 Received: from issfire.co.palm-beach.fl.us (issfire.co.palm-beach.fl.us [151.132.50.198]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA16523 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:45:40 -0700 Received: from issfire.co.palm-beach.fl.us (root@localhost) by issfire.co.palm-beach.fl.us with ESMTP id OAA16018; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:45:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ermasotelo.co.palm-beach.fl.us ([151.132.16.86]) by issfire.co.palm-beach.fl.us with SMTP id OAA16014; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:45:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3739CC25.7DDE@co.palm-beach.fl.us> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:44:53 -0400 Reply-To: asotelo@co.palm-beach.fl.us Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Alex Sotelo To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: [Fwd: PC Pine 4.10 anomoly (fwd)] References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Robert Larmon X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN No, sorry, I don't have access to PC-Pine Robert Larmon wrote: > > Have you tried this for PC-Pine also? > > RCL > > On Wed, 12 May 1999, Alex Sotelo wrote: > > > This has happened to me before, the problem is not with pine, but it is > > how you are connected to it. In my particular case, my telnet program > > "missed" one or two "escape codes" to display the right character on the > > right line, and all the screen looks and acts different. If it happens > > again, type CTRL-L this refreshes the screen and clears up garbled text. > > > > -- > > Alex Sotelo > > Thought of the day: > > "Whatever happened to Preparations A through G?" > > > > ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` > ` Robert Larmon ` > ` PC Systems Analyst ` > ` USC Law School Computing Services ` > ` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` > ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' -- Alex Sotelo home: mailto:asotelo@freenet.tlh.fl.us work: mailto:asotelo@co.palm-beach.fl.us http://www.freenet.tlh.fl.us/~asotelo From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:46:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA11257 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA03643; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:46:30 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA28014; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:45:47 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA16548 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:40:31 -0700 Received: from elwha.evergreen.edu (elwha.evergreen.edu [192.211.16.10]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA26116 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:40:31 -0700 Received: by elwha.evergreen.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/16Jan95-8.2MPM) id AA25341; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:40:01 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe Pollock To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC Pine 4.10 anomoly (fwd) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN We've seen this happen on occasion in our labs when the terminal emulation program is set to an incorrect number of lines. It's been a while, but I think this happens when the program is set to fewer than 24 lines per display screen. It can be very confusing for the user and for the support staff. On Wed, 12 May 1999, Robert Larmon wrote: > > Hi all, > A user had this problem that my co-worker describes below... > > >FYI, > > > >Interesting problem. Vicki was replying to a message that included 31 > >CC'd recipients. She pressed "R", the recipient list dropped down and > >there was one blank line displayed on the page to start typing text. > >When > >she started typing, the cursor moved but no text appeared. However, when > >hard returning down a couple of lines the typed text would appear. > > >This was repeated several times. > > Anyone have any ideas? > > Thanks, > > RCL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA10811 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:58:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA03926; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:58:20 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA28882; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:58:01 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA48658 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:54:36 -0700 Received: from usc.edu (usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA17743 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:54:36 -0700 Received: from Law.USC.EDU (law.usc.edu [128.125.42.6]) by usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id MAA21834; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:53:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from faculty.Law.USC.EDU by Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15289; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:53:20 PDT Received: from l2122.usc.edu by faculty.Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28230; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:53:19 PDT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:53:13 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robert Larmon To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC Pine 4.10 anomoly (fwd) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Joe Pollock X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: rlarmon@faculty-law.usc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I understand about terminal types and regular Pine, but what about PC-Pine 4.10? RCL On Wed, 12 May 1999, Joe Pollock wrote: > We've seen this happen on occasion in our labs when the terminal > emulation program is set to an incorrect number of lines. It's been a > while, but I think this happens when the program is set to fewer than 24 > lines per display screen. It can be very confusing for the user and for > the support staff. > > On Wed, 12 May 1999, Robert Larmon wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > A user had this problem that my co-worker describes below... > > > > >FYI, > > > > > >Interesting problem. Vicki was replying to a message that included 31 > > >CC'd recipients. She pressed "R", the recipient list dropped down and > > >there was one blank line displayed on the page to start typing text. > > >When > > >she started typing, the cursor moved but no text appeared. However, when > > >hard returning down a couple of lines the typed text would appear. > > > > >This was repeated several times. > > > > Anyone have any ideas? > > > > Thanks, > > > > RCL > ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ` Robert Larmon ` ` PC Systems Analyst ` ` USC Law School Computing Services ` ` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA06980 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA04446; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:15:51 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id NAA08612; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:15:24 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA23648 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:11:42 -0700 Received: from hotrwaco.hhscn.org (root@hotrwaco.hhscn.org [168.59.110.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA26469 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:11:40 -0700 Received: from cameron (cameron.hhscn.org [168.59.110.4]) by hotrwaco.hhscn.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA18678 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:14:49 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:12:36 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Glenn Wade To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine Slow Starting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: gaw@cameron X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Greetings: We have been using Pine for several months now and greatly appreciate this fine program. We are using ver. 3.96 on IBM AIX 3.2.5. Beginning this morning, starting Pine has been very slow. I checked system load, and even with high idle time, the startup has been slow. The priority of the Pine process itself is normal: F S UID PID PPID C PRI NI ADDR SZ WCHAN TTY TIME CMD 240001 S 1999 87753 106029 1 60 20 2b97 372 b58a7c90 pts/7 0:00 pine 241801 S 1999 106029 49196 0 60 20 604 176 pts/7 0:00 ksh During business hours we have from 30 to 50 users on the system. Today when I noticed the slowdown, there were four or five users in Pine. Once Pine has started, everything seems to function normally. Nothing has changed in our pine.conf file from yesterday to today. I checked the FAQ on the website, and did not see an answer to this. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Glenn ----------------------------------------------------------------- Glenn Wade (254-752-3451) Heart of Texas Region MHMR - Waco, TX -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA10298 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA07324; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:39:34 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id OAA12605; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:38:35 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA31922 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:32:59 -0700 Received: from nyntq1.tink.com (SYSTEM@mail2.new-york.net [165.254.101.54]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA07636 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:32:58 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com ("port 1794"@aleph.ii.com) by mail2.new-york.net (PMDF V5.1-10 #22883) with ESMTP id <01JB49GLL3I48WXIQD@mail2.new-york.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Wed, 12 May 1999 17:32:54 EDT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 17:32:22 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Suggestion re exclamation marks MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: nm@operamail.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Pine Gods, Please do not use exclamation marks unless something is truly extraordinary or important. For example, in this status msg: [New mail to you! From Yogi Bear subject: BooBoo] I don't think this^ exclamation mark is needed! Thanks, Nancy -- For Pine info & links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ ŠNancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink --= Sent via PINE: Power Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 May 1999 20:34:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA17684 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 20:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA16074; Wed, 12 May 1999 20:34:17 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id UAA22232; Wed, 12 May 1999 20:33:56 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA17582 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 20:30:25 -0700 Received: from ns1.cdc.com (ns1.cdc.com [150.143.16.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA15006 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 20:30:24 -0700 Received: from [129.179.17.10] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Wed, 12 May 1999 22:30:19 -0500 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Thu, 13 May 1999 11:30:16 +0800 Message-Id: <000701be9cf0$e81de530$1511b381@twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 11:30:11 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Suggestion re exclamation marks In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Nancy, > Please do not use exclamation marks unless something is truly > extraordinary or important. For example, in this status msg: > > [New mail to you! From Yogi Bear subject: BooBoo] I don't know about that.... An email from Yogi seems rather important to me. > I don't think this^ exclamation mark is needed! You are talking about the "!" at the end of your sentence, yes? Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 May 1999 03:10:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id DAA22163 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 03:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id DAA21566; Thu, 13 May 1999 03:10:43 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id DAA08970; Thu, 13 May 1999 03:10:28 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id DAA41294 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 03:07:39 -0700 Received: from calypso.view.net.au (mtw@calypso.view.net.au [203.30.237.210]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id DAA16633 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 03:07:26 -0700 Received: from localhost (mtw@localhost) by calypso.view.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA31502; Thu, 13 May 1999 19:36:32 +0930 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:36:32 +0930 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Talbot-Wilson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Suggestion re exclamation marks In-Reply-To: <000701be9cf0$e81de530$1511b381@twntpe.cdc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ed Greshko X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 13 May 1999, Ed Greshko wrote: > > I don't think this^ exclamation mark is needed! > > You are talking about the "!" at the end of your sentence, yes? Um... being a bit literal, aintcha Ed? Could she have ended with a small joke, perhaps? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 May 1999 03:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id DAA19502 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 03:30:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id DAA21853; Thu, 13 May 1999 03:30:30 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id DAA09245; Thu, 13 May 1999 03:30:14 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id DAA14480 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 03:27:15 -0700 Received: from ns1.cdc.com (ns1.cdc.com [150.143.16.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id DAA17418 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 03:27:14 -0700 Received: from [129.179.17.10] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Thu, 13 May 1999 05:27:09 -0500 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com with ESMTP; Thu, 13 May 1999 18:27:06 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:27:06 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Suggestion re exclamation marks In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Michael Talbot-Wilson X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 13 May 1999, Michael Talbot-Wilson wrote: > > You are talking about the "!" at the end of your sentence, yes? > > Um... being a bit literal, aintcha Ed? Yeah. > Could she have ended with a small joke, perhaps? Perhaps. I know I forgot my ;-). Yet, this "!" thingy is a nit picking cosmetic item. Funny thing, as I was typing this in I got a notification about "New mail!" from Postmaster to inform me of a non-deliverable. Being the Postmaster of this site it was, to me, important enough to add the "!". I suppose this could lead to a whole new set of configuration settings. You could specify when to set the "!" and when not to based on the sender and the To: and/or Cc: fields. Hummm....let's see, if I get a mail from my boss but I'm not in the To: or Cc: header then he must have Bcc:'d me....that may make it worthy of a "!". :-) Good night.... Ed P.S. Sorry....too much coffee today. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 May 1999 07:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA27517 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 07:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA25526; Thu, 13 May 1999 07:40:45 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id HAA08736; Thu, 13 May 1999 07:40:29 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA34560 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 07:36:48 -0700 Received: from hotrwaco.hhscn.org (hotrwaco.hhscn.org [168.59.110.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA26301 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 07:36:47 -0700 Received: from cameron (cameron.hhscn.org [168.59.110.4]) by hotrwaco.hhscn.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA30592 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 09:39:54 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 09:37:44 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Glenn Wade To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine Slow Starting In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: gaw@cameron X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN An Update: Thanks to Florence Lee for her responses to me. I noticed after I had originally submitted my message that telnet was also slow to respond (which I attributed to a routing issue), but did not think the two issues were directly related. But... About 17:30 CDT, Pine -AND- telnet began to function normally. I am the only user using IMAP; all users were experiencing the slow start of Pine. Neither Pine nor telnet were "running away", they were just slow to wake up. Everything is working fine today. Interesting... Glenn ----------------------------------------------------------------- Glenn Wade (254-752-3451) Heart of Texas Region MHMR - Waco, TX On Wed, 12 May 1999, Glenn Wade wrote: > Greetings: > > We have been using Pine for several months now and greatly appreciate this > fine program. We are using ver. 3.96 on IBM AIX 3.2.5. > > Beginning this morning, starting Pine has been very slow. I checked > system load, and even with high idle time, the startup has been slow. -----Snip----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA20898 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:00:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA03919; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:00:53 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id OAA04948; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:00:05 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA124358 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:55:16 -0700 Received: from blkbox.com (swhatley@blkbox.com [206.109.97.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA08639 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:55:15 -0700 Received: from localhost (swhatley@localhost) by blkbox.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA05247 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 15:55:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:55:14 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steven Whatley To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Suggestion re exclamation marks In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 13 May 1999, Edward M Greshko wrote: > Funny thing, as I was typing this in I got a notification about "New > mail!" from Postmaster to inform me of a non-deliverable. Being the > Postmaster of this site it was, to me, important enough to add the "!". > I suppose this could lead to a whole new set of configuration settings. > You could specify when to set the "!" and when not to based on the sender > and the To: and/or Cc: fields. Hummm....let's see, if I get a mail from > my boss but I'm not in the To: or Cc: header then he must have Bcc:'d > me....that may make it worthy of a "!". :-) How aout checking the "urgent" flag? If set, use "!". If not set use ".". Otherwise, use "?". [You got new mail?] :) Later, Steven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA09709 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA13891; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:42:33 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id WAA24820; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:42:16 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA65694 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:38:24 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA28188 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:38:24 -0700 Received: from mail.asianexplorer.com.au (asi24111-2.gw.connect.com.au [202.21.8.207]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA16071 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:38:22 -0700 Received: from florence (unverified [192.168.1.80]) by mail.asianexplorer.com.au (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.7) with SMTP id ; Fri, 14 May 1999 15:46:59 +1000 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Fri, 14 May 1999 15:34:38 +1000 Message-Id: <01BE9E1F.46DFCF00.florence@asianexplorer.com.au> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:34:37 +1000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Florence Lee To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: HALIFAX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "'pine'" , "'pine'" , X-Cc: "'pine1'" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN ASIAN EXPLORER HOLIDAYS 6 WATTS STREET BOX HILL VIC 3128 TEL 9245 0791 FAX 9245 0780 E-MAIL florence@asianexplorer.com.au flee88@yahoo.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ANYBODY USING HALIFAX....I NEED "ADVISE" AS TO WHY SOEMTIMES RECIPIENTS GETS FAXES THAT IS ONLY 1 PAGE, WHEN THERE IS 2 PAGES...ALSO, SOME FAX NUMBERS THE HALIFAX CANNOT SEND, WHEN IT'S A NUMBER DIVERTED TO ANOTHER NUMBER...ALSO, HOW DO I HANDLE THE FONT SIZE... Thanks & Regards Florence -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 May 1999 09:36:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA14668 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 09:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA26884; Fri, 14 May 1999 09:36:48 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id JAA10603; Fri, 14 May 1999 09:36:25 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA107870 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 09:30:48 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA01154 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 09:30:48 -0700 Received: from localhost (hubert@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA06746 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 09:30:47 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Date substitution in signature In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The token _longdate_ refers to the date of the message you are replying to, not the current date. You probably want to use _curdate_ instead. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Sun, 9 May 1999, Majid Tajamolian wrote: > Dear LIST: > I am using Pine 4.10 on Linux 2.0.30. I have a ".signature" file with the > following contents: > > M. Tajamolian > _longdate_ > > But I find out that Pine substitutes the _longdate_ phrase only when I > replying a mail, no for from scratch composed mails. What is the source of > this problem? Can anyone help me? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 May 1999 20:03:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA30371 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 20:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA05095; Fri, 14 May 1999 20:02:57 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id UAA06976; Fri, 14 May 1999 20:02:33 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA124258 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 19:57:28 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA27041 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 19:57:28 -0700 Received: from students.aurora.edu (students.aurora.edu [192.203.224.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA05022 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 19:57:27 -0700 Received: from localhost (slowe@localhost) by students.aurora.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA25812 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 21:56:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 21:56:58 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Lowe To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Accessing DNEWS Server VIA Pine4.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Information List X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am testing getting to my usenet news server via Pine4.10. Pine finds my active file for subscription purposes. But, it cannot acccess the spool directory and files created by DNEWS. It will let me post a message to those news groups that I am subscribed to. Any suggestions as to where I might start debugging. TIA. -- Steve Lowe Aurora University -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 May 1999 11:09:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA09254 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 11:09:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA16637; Sat, 15 May 1999 11:09:24 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA25121; Sat, 15 May 1999 11:09:07 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA92752 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 11:04:06 -0700 Received: from libvax.sonoma.edu (libvax.sonoma.edu [130.157.2.5]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA00578 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 11:04:05 -0700 Received: from SONOMA.EDU by SONOMA.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #31384) id <01JB82R0FIZW9219GX@SONOMA.EDU> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sat, 15 May 1999 11:03:36 PDT Message-Id: Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 11:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: kirkpats@SONOMA.EDU To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine discussion forum MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I would like to be out of the loop so that I don't continue to receive email discussions re Pine. How can I escape? Thanks. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA10112 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA23031; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:37:38 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id TAA29260; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:37:20 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA46418 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:32:46 -0700 Received: from ns1.cdc.com (ns1.cdc.com [150.143.16.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA07779 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:32:45 -0700 Received: from [129.179.17.10] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sat, 15 May 1999 21:32:41 -0500 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com with ESMTP; Sun, 16 May 1999 10:32:38 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 10:32:37 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine discussion forum In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: kirkpats@sonoma.edu X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 15 May 1999 kirkpats@sonoma.edu wrote: > I would like to be out of the loop so that I don't continue to receive > email discussions re Pine. How can I escape? Thanks. It would appear that you are already "out of the loop". If you were to actually read the mail coming from the pine mailing list you'd have seen this: ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- at the bottom of each post. Then you'd visit the web site and find out how to unsubscribe. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce GSM: +65-975-10860 Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 18 May 1999 16:48:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA05489 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 16:48:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA29439; Tue, 18 May 1999 16:48:35 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id QAA29218; Tue, 18 May 1999 16:48:13 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA124248 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 16:41:50 -0700 Received: from inetserv.ait.ac.th (inetserv.ait.ac.th [203.159.0.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA13489 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 16:41:47 -0700 Received: from alphaserv.ait.ac.th (IDENT:stb87175@alphaserv.ait.ac.th [203.159.0.3]) by inetserv.ait.ac.th (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA30030 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 06:41:44 +0700 (GMT+0700) Received: from localhost (stb87175@localhost) by alphaserv.ait.ac.th (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA01168 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 06:41:43 +0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 06:41:43 +0700 (GMT+0700) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "S. Ganeshkumar" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Automated Bouncing. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: alphaserv.ait.ac.th: stb87175 owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I'm using Pine 4.10, accessed thru' telnet. Sorry if this has been asked before, I want to bounce a mail 2 times to the same person. But when I create a list with 2 times his address and use that to bounce, it sends only once. Is there any way that I can do this, may be through a script? Since I have to do this on a regular basis, it would be nice to have some mechanism that does this for me without too much of effort. Any help would be higly appriciated. Ganesh -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 May 1999 02:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id CAA16800 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 02:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id CAA10405; Wed, 19 May 1999 02:23:42 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id CAA04532; Wed, 19 May 1999 02:21:03 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA15394 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 17:32:38 -0700 Received: from kootcom.kootenay.net (kootcom.kootenay.net [209.52.230.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA20783 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 17:32:38 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kootcom.kootenay.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA07558; Wed, 19 May 1999 00:37:04 GMT Received: from ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca by kootcom.kootenay.net; Tue, 18 May 99 17:37 PDT Received: from localhost (jrasku@localhost) by ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11645; Tue, 18 May 1999 16:59:08 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 16:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Automated Bouncing. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "S. Ganeshkumar" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 19 May 1999, S. Ganeshkumar wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using Pine 4.10, accessed thru' telnet. > > Sorry if this has been asked before, I want to bounce a mail 2 times to > the same person. But when I create a list with 2 times his address and use > that to bounce, it sends only once. Is there any way that I can do this, > may be through a script? This would not be a ``usefull'' Pine function. May I ask why you would want to send the same mail to someone twice? I can think of reasons for doing this (have done it myself), but I'm not so sure that it really is a good idea, unless it is expected by the poster. > Since I have to do this on a regular basis, it would be nice to have > some mechanism that does this for me without too much of effort. 1) it is fairly easy to do a bounce, and do it twice. Certianly a duplication, but well, why would you want to do it in the first place? 2) it is possible you can do it through a shell script of some sort. But, your SMTP server may have a problem unless it is two seperate messages which it sees as two seperate messages. Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. List manager: majordomo@ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca send command help ---- To get help with majordomo or lists ---- To get a list of all lists on server. WWW: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:15:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA24275 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA16272; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:15:25 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id IAA19793; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:14:55 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA18996 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:09:54 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA08514 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:09:54 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (eypxlbjvsb@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id IAA16108 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:09:53 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA02047; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:08:16 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:08:16 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Automated Bouncing. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 19 May 1999, S. Ganeshkumar wrote: > Sorry if this has been asked before, I want to bounce a mail 2 times to > the same person. But when I create a list with 2 times his address and use > that to bounce, it sends only once. Is there any way that I can do this, > may be through a script? I don't know, but have you tried changing the case of some of the characters in one of the addresses to see if that fools your system into believing they are two distinct addresses? Mike From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA22732 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA16577; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:26:49 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id IAA28971; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:26:24 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA27912 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:20:33 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (siswzpkgpi@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id IAA30993 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:20:32 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA02932; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:18:55 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:18:55 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Automated Bouncing. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Sorry, I just tried it and it didn't work. Pine is too smart about addresses. Mike On Wed, 19 May 1999, Mike Miller wrote: > On Wed, 19 May 1999, S. Ganeshkumar wrote: > > > Sorry if this has been asked before, I want to bounce a mail 2 times to > > the same person. But when I create a list with 2 times his address and use > > that to bounce, it sends only once. Is there any way that I can do this, > > may be through a script? > > I don't know, but have you tried changing the case of some of the > characters in one of the addresses to see if that fools your system into > believing they are two distinct addresses? > > Mike > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:16:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA25988 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA14778; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:16:36 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id KAA27248; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:15:50 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA21790 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:07:51 -0700 Received: from niwot.scd.ucar.edu (niwot.scd.ucar.edu [128.117.8.223]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA23075 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:07:51 -0700 Received: from sedona.scd.ucar.edu (sedona.scd.ucar.edu [128.117.8.183]) by niwot.scd.ucar.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA07760 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:07:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (era@localhost) by sedona.scd.ucar.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.8.0) with ESMTP id LAA00602 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:07:50 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:07:50 -0600 (MDT) Reply-To: era@ucar.edu Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ed Arnold To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: enable-unix-pipe-cmd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: sedona.scd.ucar.edu: era owned process doing -bs X-Sender: era@sedona.scd.ucar.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm looking for information on Pine's pipe command. (I'm using pine-4.10 on a SunOS-5.7 platform.) Pine's pipe doesn't work like the ELM code base from which Pine was supposedly built. I have a moderately complex Bourne shell script I have used to read a pipe from ELM. This script prompts me for some information, incorporates that info and the piped-in email message into a form, and then invokes a screen editor on that form. After I exit the editor, ELM resumes, allowing me to send the form. The point of all this is to easily incorporate email messages sent to my personal account, into a work request system which has formatting requirements. With Pine, however, piping a message to the shell script fragment below behaves miserably. Pine behaves as though it won't hand STDIN to my script and/or is operating in cooked rather than raw mode. It doesn't give me the opportunity to enter a line of input before going merrily on its way. Does anyone know if there is a config/setup option that modifies this behavior? (I looked in the tech-notes.txt file but found no info describing what the user can expect of Pine's pipe command.) #!/bin/sh echo "enter data:\c" read data echo "data=$data" ________________________________________________________________________ Ed Arnold * NCAR * POB 3000, Boulder, CO 80307-3000 USA * 303-497-1253 voice 303-497-{1848,1804} fax * era@ucar.edu * http://www.ucar.edu/era 39 58 41N/105 16 29W/1865m -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA26693 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA15121; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:30:43 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id KAA06758; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:28:42 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA28192 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:09:02 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA23253 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:09:01 -0700 Received: from localhost (hubert@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA20332; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:08:56 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: sending-filter question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: wes X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Wes, Thanks. This will be fixed in the next release of Pine. Meanwhile, you may be able to work around the problem by wrapping your filter in a script which knows how to duplicate the tmpfile argument. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, wes wrote: > i've got a sending-filter set up for pine 4.10 and pgp 5.0 and i'm trying to > use _TMPFILE_ twice in the command line. pine, however, seems to process the > tokens only once, so only the first instance of _TMPFILE_ is being replaced. > is it supposed to be this way, and is there a patch to make pine process > multiple instances in the command line? thanks. > > .wes > 0x90A1345C : 9AD4 20AE 22CD 7D88 AABE 29A2 4744 78B5 90A1 345C > http://certserver.pgp.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x90A1345C > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 May 1999 18:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA02032 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 18:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA27060; Wed, 19 May 1999 18:29:32 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id SAA26109; Wed, 19 May 1999 18:28:31 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA14934 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 18:23:32 -0700 Received: from shara.off.connect.com.au (shara.off.connect.com.au [192.94.41.9]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA21623 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 18:23:31 -0700 Received: from pc124 (pc124.mel.off.connect.com.au [203.63.68.124]) by shara.off.connect.com.au with SMTP id LAA00078 (8.8.8/IDA-1.6 for ); Thu, 20 May 1999 11:23:29 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990520112215.00b26df0@shara.off.connect.com.au> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 11:23:28 +1000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Darryl Harvey To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Checkpoint File Error! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: dharvey@shara.off.connect.com.au X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN When running pine [V4.10] on my RH5.2 box and trying to expunge the deleted messages, I get a long delay and then the error message; [Checkpoint file failure: File exists] Same goes for when I exit Pine. If I exit and re-enter, the deleted files are not removed (Which they used to be) Can anyone shed any light on what file is stopping this, or could it be a hard disk error? my /var resides on a separate disk.. Thanks Darryl -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA03961 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:26:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA29658; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:26:54 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id VAA28983; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:26:30 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA20426 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:22:11 -0700 Received: from kootcom.kootenay.net (kootcom.kootenay.net [209.52.230.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA26190 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:22:10 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kootcom.kootenay.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA06113; Thu, 20 May 1999 04:26:31 GMT Received: from ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca by kootcom.kootenay.net; Wed, 19 May 99 21:26 PDT Received: from localhost (jrasku@localhost) by ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA20410; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:19:43 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 21:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Automated Bouncing. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Miller X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 19 May 1999, Mike Miller wrote: > Sorry, I just tried it and it didn't work. Pine is too smart about > addresses. What about in the username? That is technicaly case preserving, and possibly case sensitive. Pine should not have a problem thinking they are diffrent. Or, placing a + at the end of the user name. Both of those will make for an address that can not be ``assumed'' to be the same, but probably will deliver to the person without any problem. Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. List manager: majordomo@ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca send command help ---- To get help with majordomo or lists ---- To get a list of all lists on server. WWW: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 May 1999 23:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id XAA05440 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 23:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id XAA31412; Wed, 19 May 1999 23:33:00 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id XAA03344; Wed, 19 May 1999 23:32:40 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id XAA20730 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 23:28:19 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (bxekfzsybm@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id XAA15328 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 23:28:18 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id BAA15925; Thu, 20 May 1999 01:26:40 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 01:26:40 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Automated Bouncing. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 19 May 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: > What about in the username? That is technicaly case preserving, > and possibly case sensitive. Pine should not have a problem thinking they > are diffrent. Or, placing a + at the end of the user name. Both of those > will make for an address that can not be ``assumed'' to be the same, but > probably will deliver to the person without any problem. That didn't work either. Pine has outsmarted us again! Mike From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 May 1999 23:50:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id XAA31510 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 23:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id XAA03903; Wed, 19 May 1999 23:50:05 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id XAA03655; Wed, 19 May 1999 23:49:46 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id XAA14620 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 23:45:44 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id XAA27503 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 23:45:44 -0700 Received: from mail.asianexplorer.com.au (asi24111-2.gw.connect.com.au [202.21.8.207]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id XAA03845 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 23:45:42 -0700 Received: from florence (unverified [192.168.1.80]) by mail.asianexplorer.com.au (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.7) with SMTP id for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:49:03 +1000 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:41:42 +1000 Message-Id: <01BEA2DF.A3C8B8C0.florence@asianexplorer.com.au> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:41:41 +1000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Florence Lee To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: deleted mail - how can i get them back... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "'pine'" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- my user unintentionally deleted some important mail...can we get them back...as u know our backup is only done at night...is there such a thing called "deleted item" folder Thanks & Regards Florence -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 May 1999 00:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id AAA02773 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 00:30:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id AAA04425; Thu, 20 May 1999 00:30:09 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id AAA02796; Thu, 20 May 1999 00:29:47 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id AAA14634 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 00:25:05 -0700 Received: from caveman.geac.com.au (caveman.geac.com.au [203.30.73.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id AAA18734 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 00:25:02 -0700 Received: (qmail 28143 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 07:30:20 -0000 Received: from brane.geac.com.au (202.6.67.115) by caveman.geac.com.au with SMTP; 20 May 1999 07:30:20 -0000 Received: from fgh.geac.com.au by brane.geac.com.au with smtp\n (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m10kN6C-0003lOC; Thu, 20 May 99 17:18 AEST Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by fgh.geac.com.au?r with ESMTP id RAA11384; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:23:12 +1000 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:23:12 +1000 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Dave Horsfall To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: deleted mail - how can i get them back... In-Reply-To: <01BEA2DF.A3C8B8C0.florence@asianexplorer.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Florence Lee X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: dave@fgh X-No-Archive: Yes X-Witty-Saying: "Tesseract - Enter at own risk" X-Disclaimer: "Me, speak for us?" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 20 May 1999, Florence Lee wrote: > my user unintentionally deleted some important mail...can we get them back...as u know > our backup is only done at night...is there such a thing called "deleted item" folder Depends; if the deleted items were expunged (the X command) then they're like Clementine - lost and gone forever... -- Dave Horsfall VK2KFU dave@geac.com.au Ph: +61 2 9978-7493 Fx: +61 2 9978-7422 Geac Computers P/L (FGH Division) 2/57 Christie St, St Leonards 2065, Australia From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA06065 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:28:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA08328; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:28:01 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id JAA14073; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:27:30 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA27136 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:22:02 -0700 Received: from kootcom.kootenay.net (kootcom.kootenay.net [209.52.230.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA04727 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:21:59 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kootcom.kootenay.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA12055; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:26:18 GMT Received: from ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca by kootcom.kootenay.net; Thu, 20 May 99 09:26 PDT Received: from localhost (jrasku@localhost) by ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24174; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:16:57 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Automated Bouncing. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Miller X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 20 May 1999, Mike Miller wrote: > On Wed, 19 May 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: > > > What about in the username? That is technicaly case preserving, > > and possibly case sensitive. Pine should not have a problem thinking they > > are diffrent. Or, placing a + at the end of the user name. Both of those > > will make for an address that can not be ``assumed'' to be the same, but > > probably will deliver to the person without any problem. > > That didn't work either. Pine has outsmarted us again! Um, actually Pine has a bug then. Maybe it isn't Pine that is outsmating you though. Maybe the problem is on the other end, in which case you need two seperate messages. I believe that some servers are setup to reject duplicate messages, which would be what it is seeing if you are sending a single message with two addresses in it. Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. List manager: majordomo@ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca send command help ---- To get help with majordomo or lists ---- To get a list of all lists on server. WWW: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:38:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA08157 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:38:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA08596; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:38:16 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id JAA15945; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:37:34 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA27012 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:32:08 -0700 Received: from kootcom.kootenay.net (kootcom.kootenay.net [209.52.230.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA17692 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:32:03 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kootcom.kootenay.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA12174; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:36:23 GMT Received: from ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca by kootcom.kootenay.net; Thu, 20 May 99 09:36 PDT Received: from localhost (jrasku@localhost) by ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24232; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:22:36 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:22:36 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: deleted mail - how can i get them back... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Dave Horsfall X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 20 May 1999, Dave Horsfall wrote: > On Thu, 20 May 1999, Florence Lee wrote: > > > my user unintentionally deleted some important mail...can we get > > them back...as u know our backup is only done at night...is there > > such a thing called "deleted item" folder That's a feature that I'd like to see, that re-formating of multiple levels of quotes is smarter. I don't know how difficult it would be to implement, it's not a BIG deal, just something I'd like to see, I can always go into joe and reformat that way... > Depends; if the deleted items were expunged (the X command) then they're > like Clementine - lost and gone forever... Again, that depends... If it is on the backup, you can restore it from there, but other than that, if it was expunged, it is gone... And probably entirely irrecoverably due to the way that I THINK things are done. I don't believe that ``if you are lucky you may be able to restore it from the hard drive,'' is a safe statement to make (it's not safe unless you REALLY know what you are doing, or are willing to do a big ``oops'' because you did something rather silly, (big oops meaning possibly a complete restore of you system from scratch in the most extream cases)). Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. List manager: majordomo@ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca send command help ---- To get help with majordomo or lists ---- To get a list of all lists on server. WWW: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA08590 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:11:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA09424; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:11:02 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id KAA16692; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:10:39 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA25958 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:05:22 -0700 Received: from watsol.cc.columbia.edu (IDENT:cu789@watsol.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.39.139]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA23737 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:05:21 -0700 Received: from localhost (bino@localhost) by watsol.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA24146; Thu, 20 May 1999 13:05:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 13:05:10 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Bino Gopal To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: deleted mail - how can i get them back... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: bino@columbia.edu X-To: Dave Horsfall X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Doesn't that depend on whether she's running Pine on a UNIX system or a PC? I had thought most people who posted here were running on UNIX, but I've seen enough PC-Pine questions to know that that's not necessarily the case... The point being that in a PC one can always run Undelete or some Norton utilities to recover "deleted" files. Or does PC-Pine actually "wipe" the HD when it expunges? On a UNIX system, unless one has backups it is indeed gone for good though... BINO On Thu, 20 May 1999, Dave Horsfall wrote: > On Thu, 20 May 1999, Florence Lee wrote: > > > my user unintentionally deleted some important mail...can we get > > them back...as u know our backup is only done at night...is there > > such a thing called "deleted item" folder > > Depends; if the deleted items were expunged (the X command) then they're > like Clementine - lost and gone forever... > > -- > Dave Horsfall VK2KFU dave@geac.com.au Ph: +61 2 9978-7493 Fx: +61 2 9978-7422 > Geac Computers P/L (FGH Division) 2/57 Christie St, St Leonards 2065, Australia From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:38:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA18297 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA17140; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:37:58 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA22810; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:37:27 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA27118 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:32:15 -0700 Received: from kootcom.kootenay.net (kootcom.kootenay.net [209.52.230.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA06162 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:32:14 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kootcom.kootenay.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA13235; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:36:48 GMT Received: from ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca by kootcom.kootenay.net; Thu, 20 May 99 11:36 PDT Received: from localhost (jrasku@localhost) by ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24876; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:23:26 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 11:23:25 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: deleted mail - how can i get them back... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bino Gopal X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 20 May 1999, Bino Gopal wrote: > The point being that in a PC one can always run Undelete or some Norton > utilities to recover "deleted" files. Or does PC-Pine actually "wipe" the > HD when it expunges? On a UNIX system, unless one has backups it is > indeed gone for good though... You can do a similar thing (or at least try) in *nix envioronments, but I believe that Pine doesn't delete files, but updates them. So, unless Pine creates a scratch file of some sort, I don't believe that you can undelete. As, messages are not individual files, folders are, and records (which you can view a message as), are not recoverable with undelete, unless you can recover the entire file prior to the expunge. Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. List manager: majordomo@ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca send command help ---- To get help with majordomo or lists ---- To get a list of all lists on server. WWW: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA24630 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA19289; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:22:57 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id QAA06182; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:22:28 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA27008 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:17:17 -0700 Received: from ns1.cdc.com (ns1.cdc.com [150.143.16.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA19548 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:17:16 -0700 Received: from [129.179.17.10] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:17:11 -0500 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com with ESMTP; Fri, 21 May 1999 07:17:08 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 07:17:07 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Automated Bouncing. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jessica Rasku X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 20 May 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: > On Thu, 20 May 1999, Mike Miller wrote: > > > On Wed, 19 May 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: > > > > > What about in the username? That is technicaly case preserving, > > > and possibly case sensitive. Pine should not have a problem thinking they > > > are diffrent. Or, placing a + at the end of the user name. Both of those > > > will make for an address that can not be ``assumed'' to be the same, but > > > probably will deliver to the person without any problem. > > > > That didn't work either. Pine has outsmarted us again! > > Um, actually Pine has a bug then. Maybe it isn't Pine that is > outsmating you though. Maybe the problem is on the other end, in which > case you need two seperate messages. I believe that some servers are > setup to reject duplicate messages, which would be what it is seeing if > you are sending a single message with two addresses in it. The MTAs (not pine) are smarting than you think. You are seeking to have the identical message show up in the same mailbox using emails addresses which can be determined in at the same hop to be the same. One way to get around this is to put the address in a format which would split it at the very first hop. This is easy to accomplish if you have 2 systems in your company resonsible for sending mails external to your organization. Send the mail like so: userA%theirplace.com@somehost.myplace.com userA%theirplace.com@otherhost.myplace.com Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce GSM: +65-975-10860 Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:18:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA25154 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA25559; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:18:23 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id RAA08485; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:17:23 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA19696 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:12:42 -0700 Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f75.hotmail.com [216.32.181.75]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id RAA18300 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:12:41 -0700 Received: (qmail 71750 invoked by uid 0); 21 May 1999 00:13:21 -0000 Received: from 216.99.198.112 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:13:21 PDT Message-Id: <19990521001321.71749.qmail@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:13:21 PDT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "STEVE CONRAD" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: auto print global address book recipiants Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; X-Originating-IP: [216.99.198.112] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am setting up Pine 3.95 on an HP9000 running HPUX10.2 and have a number of users who work in our warehouse that will receive inter company email but rarly check it. I would like to set them up to have their email print automatically. I set up a distribution list in the global address book and then put them into the aliases file with a comment of their name within the quoted command to make them all unique (otherwise I just get one copy to print). This works, I get all the copies to print however, the TO: in the email always says the group name not the individuals name, does anyone know a better way to do this? Thanks for your assistance. Sincerely, Steve Conrad System Administrator McGuire Bearing Co. Portland, Or _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:22:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA23881 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA26728; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:22:19 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id SAA10110; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:21:21 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA19406 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:16:18 -0700 Received: from caveman.geac.com.au (caveman.geac.com.au [203.30.73.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id SAA29694 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:16:15 -0700 Received: (qmail 5310 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 01:21:50 -0000 Received: from brane.geac.com.au (202.6.67.115) by caveman.geac.com.au with SMTP; 21 May 1999 01:21:50 -0000 Received: from fgh.geac.com.au by brane.geac.com.au with smtp\n (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m10kdp5-0002fnC; Fri, 21 May 99 11:10 AEST Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by fgh.geac.com.au?r with ESMTP id LAA23009; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:14:40 +1000 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:14:39 +1000 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Dave Horsfall To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: deleted mail - how can i get them back... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bino Gopal X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: dave@fgh X-No-Archive: Yes X-Witty-Saying: "Tesseract - Enter at own risk" X-Disclaimer: "Me, speak for us?" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 20 May 1999, Bino Gopal wrote: > Doesn't that depend on whether she's running Pine on a UNIX system or a > PC? I had thought most people who posted here were running on UNIX, but > I've seen enough PC-Pine questions to know that that's not necessarily the > case... Quite possibly, but I'm a Unix bigot, and proud of it. -- Dave Horsfall VK2KFU dave@geac.com.au Ph: +61 2 9978-7493 Fx: +61 2 9978-7422 Geac Computers P/L (FGH Division) 2/57 Christie St, St Leonards 2065, Australia From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:41:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA15413 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA22944; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:41:00 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id TAA12699; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:39:59 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA19534 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:35:25 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA04578 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:35:25 -0700 Received: from students.aurora.edu (students.aurora.edu [192.203.224.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA27829 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:35:24 -0700 Received: from localhost (slowe@localhost) by students.aurora.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA02707 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 21:34:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 21:34:54 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Lowe To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.10 Usage with DNEWS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Information List X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Good evening, everyone. I have been trying to get Pine 4.10 to work with DNEWS. The error message indicates that Pine 4.10 is unable to scan the spool directory. Could someone send me a valid entry for .pinercc so I could check against my setup? Thanks in advance. - Steve Lowe Aurora University -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 22 May 1999 15:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id PAA27871 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 15:37:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id PAA31736; Sat, 22 May 1999 15:37:35 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id PAA21428; Sat, 22 May 1999 15:37:16 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id PAA30964 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 15:30:55 -0700 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (root@euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id PAA11155 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 15:30:55 -0700 Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (chappa@goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09640; Sat, 22 May 1999 15:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 15:30:35 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Eduardo Chappa L." To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Suggestion re exclamation marks In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Nancy McGough X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Nancy McGough (nm@NoAdsPlease.ii.com) wrote on May 12, 1999: :) Dear Pine Gods, :) :) Please do not use exclamation marks unless something is truly :) extraordinary or important. For example, in this status msg: :) :) [New mail to you! From Yogi Bear subject: BooBoo] :) :) I don't think this^ exclamation mark is needed! :) Ok, after all the jokes, here's a way to do it. If you have access to the code you just have to erase the "!" in line 324 of newmail.c, if you don't use sed, say, and substitute the following strings: "New mail%s!" by something of the same length "New mail%s.", say From the command line in my unix the command that does this is sed 's/New mail%s\!/New mail%s./' pine > pine2 An now use pine2, instead of pine. On the other hand, this won't solve the problem, because there is another place where a "!" is placed in line 322 of the same code, so you would have to change also "%ld new messages!" by something of the same length as before. But on the other hand, I guess this message is important enough for you to deserve a "!" in the status line message :) Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/personal.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 May 1999 08:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA22162 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 08:07:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA29884; Mon, 24 May 1999 08:07:52 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id IAA01820; Mon, 24 May 1999 08:07:20 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA23652 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 07:59:32 -0700 Received: from libvax.sonoma.edu (libvax.sonoma.edu [130.157.2.5]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA22725 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 07:59:32 -0700 Received: from SONOMA.EDU by SONOMA.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #31384) id <01JBKGWKG50O921U31@SONOMA.EDU> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Mon, 24 May 1999 07:58:27 PDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 07:58:26 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: kirkpats@SONOMA.EDU To: Pine Discussion Forum MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I would like to be dropped from the Pine Discussion Forum. What is necessary to accomplish this? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 May 1999 08:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA23167 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 08:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA02977; Mon, 24 May 1999 08:24:46 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id IAA10342; Mon, 24 May 1999 08:23:58 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA20732 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 08:18:54 -0700 Received: from mm02snlnto.sandia.gov (mm02snlnto.sandia.gov [132.175.109.21]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id IAA17532 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 08:18:53 -0700 Received: from 132.175.109.1 by mm02snlnto.sandia.gov with ESMTP ( WorldSecure Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v3.5); Mon, 24 May 99 09:18:50 -0600 Received: from sasg829.sandia.gov (sasg829.sandia.gov [134.253.226.190]) by sass165.sandia.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09925 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 09:18:51 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 09:18:51 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Daniel Sands" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Server-Uuid: 7edb479a-fd89-11d2-9a77-0090273cd58c X-WSS-ID: 1B57B250236370-01-01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 24 May 1999 kirkpats@SONOMA.EDU wrote: > > > I would like to be dropped from the Pine Discussion Forum. What is > necessary to accomplish this? > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Read the info that you got when signing up to the list in the first place. Follow the link above, which is attached to every Pine post to the list. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 May 1999 06:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA12078 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 06:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA28867; Tue, 25 May 1999 06:52:45 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id GAA22927; Tue, 25 May 1999 06:51:51 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA17128 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 06:45:43 -0700 Received: from mail.global.co.za (mail.global.co.za [196.3.164.40]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA07666 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 06:45:40 -0700 Received: from jhbriv-exch.gia.co.za (jhbriv-exch.gia.co.za [192.168.128.8]) by mail.global.co.za (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA07381 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:45:37 +0200 (GMT) Received: from zero.gia.co.za by jhbriv-exch.gia.co.za with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1458.49) id KQ0TRS8H; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:33:00 +0200 Message-Id: <374AA99C.B449D5@usko.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:46:04 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Chris Picton To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine and IMAP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: chrisp@mail.global.co.za X-Accept-Language: en X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi I have just changed from using POP and fetchmail and pine to wanting to use IMAP and pine. I can connect to existing folders (or create existing folders) from the browse folders screen by entering the machine name and user name as follows: {ubdcuenriv.usko.com/user=usko\chrisp\chris.picton}Mailbox Is there any way to browse existing folders on the IMAP server, or do I have to enter the exact name for each mailbox? Regards Chris -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 May 1999 08:36:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA06148 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 08:36:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA25864; Tue, 25 May 1999 08:36:23 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id IAA18760; Tue, 25 May 1999 08:35:25 -0700 Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (root@jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA33322 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 08:27:50 -0700 Received: from vergil01.u.washington.edu (leibrand@vergil01.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.6]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA41530 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 08:27:49 -0700 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by vergil01.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA16484 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 08:27:48 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 08:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine and IMAP In-Reply-To: <374AA99C.B449D5@usko.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN You should be able to set up a collection list. From the Main Menu, press S for Setup, and L for collection List. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu How to contact me: http://students.washington.edu/leibrand/howtocontactme.html * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * On Tue, 25 May 1999, Chris Picton wrote: > Hi > > I have just changed from using POP and fetchmail and pine to wanting to > use IMAP and pine. > > I can connect to existing folders (or create existing folders) from the > browse folders screen by entering the machine name and user name as > follows: > {ubdcuenriv.usko.com/user=usko\chrisp\chris.picton}Mailbox > > Is there any way to browse existing folders on the IMAP server, or do I > have to enter the exact name for each mailbox? > > Regards > Chris > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 May 1999 18:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA17972 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 18:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA07993; Tue, 25 May 1999 18:42:24 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id SAA23432; Tue, 25 May 1999 18:42:13 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA30134 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 18:36:53 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA17714 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 18:36:53 -0700 Received: from students.aurora.edu (students.aurora.edu [192.203.224.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA07913 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 18:36:53 -0700 Received: from localhost (slowe@localhost) by students.aurora.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA31758 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 20:36:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 20:36:22 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Lowe To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.10 Usage -- USENET News MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Information List X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Good evening, everyone. I have been trying to get Pine 4.10 to work with DNEWS. The error message indicates that Pine 4.10 is unable to scan the newsgroup spool directory. Is that permissions? Could someone send me a valid entry for .pinerc so I could check against my setup? Thanks in advance. - Steve Lowe Aurora University -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA14859 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:38:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA16167; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:38:53 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id VAA27746; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:38:43 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA18804 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:33:42 -0700 Received: from kootcom.kootenay.net (kootcom.kootenay.net [209.52.230.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA32669 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:33:42 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kootcom.kootenay.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA21395 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Wed, 26 May 1999 04:38:27 GMT Received: from ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca by kootcom.kootenay.net; Tue, 25 May 99 21:38 PDT Received: from localhost (jrasku@localhost) by ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA02500 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:29:12 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:29:12 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: IMAP setup (with netscape) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I was trying to setup an IMAP connection for netscape 4.51 (I think), but it just sat there and did nothing. I realise this isn't really a Pine question (and is technicialy probably off topic for this list), but this really is the best place I can really ask this question at this time. Does anyone have any sugestions about what may be wrong? Or what I should be doing? Looks like the IMAP server is not coming up, and the connection is timing out... Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. List manager: majordomo@ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca send command help ---- To get help with majordomo or lists ---- To get a list of all lists on server. WWW: -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA25217 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA11176; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:00:49 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id WAA00341; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:00:37 -0700 Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (root@jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA31324 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:55:38 -0700 Received: from vergil01.u.washington.edu (leibrand@vergil01.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.6]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA24052 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:55:37 -0700 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by vergil01.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA08042 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:55:36 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:55:36 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: IMAP setup (with netscape) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 25 May 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: > I was trying to setup an IMAP connection for netscape 4.51 (I > think), but it just sat there and did nothing. I realise this isn't > really a Pine question (and is technicialy probably off topic for this > list), but this really is the best place I can really ask this question at > this time. Does anyone have any sugestions about what may be wrong? Or > what I should be doing? Looks like the IMAP server is not coming up, and > the connection is timing out... > > Jessica > First of all, have you checked that your mail server supports IMAP. You might also try posing something to the comp.mail.imap newsgroup. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu How to contact me: http://students.washington.edu/leibrand/howtocontactme.html * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:19:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA17281 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA01201; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:19:21 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id NAA07266; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:18:46 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA24356 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:11:45 -0700 Received: from kootcom.kootenay.net (kootcom.kootenay.net [209.52.230.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA22845; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:11:45 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kootcom.kootenay.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA29659; Wed, 26 May 1999 20:16:31 GMT Received: from ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca by kootcom.kootenay.net; Wed, 26 May 99 13:16 PDT Received: from localhost (jrasku@localhost) by ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA07380; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:04:08 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: IMAP setup (with netscape) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Scott Leibrand X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 25 May 1999, Scott Leibrand wrote: > On Tue, 25 May 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: > > > I was trying to setup an IMAP connection for netscape 4.51 (I > > think), but it just sat there and did nothing. I realise this isn't > > really a Pine question (and is technicialy probably off topic for this > > list), but this really is the best place I can really ask this question at > > this time. Does anyone have any sugestions about what may be wrong? Or > > what I should be doing? Looks like the IMAP server is not coming up, and > > the connection is timing out... > > First of all, have you checked that your mail server supports IMAP. You > might also try posing something to the comp.mail.imap newsgroup. As I run the server, I would think that maybe I could set it up. I guess I didn't make it clear that I am running the server that I'm trying to connect with netscape. There is a bit of a problem with the newsgroup, I don't recieve it, can't read it regularly, at least not right now (not until I figure out a way to do that...). Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. List manager: majordomo@ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca send command help ---- To get help with majordomo or lists ---- To get a list of all lists on server. WWW: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA32361 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA28842; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:09:28 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id NAA14424; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:09:09 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA30878 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:01:44 -0700 Received: from krambo.cfsmo.honeywell.com (krambo.cfsmo.honeywell.com [137.16.159.148]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA27731 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:01:43 -0700 Received: from localhost (krambo@localhost) by krambo.cfsmo.honeywell.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_15509)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA06711 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:01:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:01:34 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Mark T. Kramm" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Problem replying to select emails which contain attachments... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: krambo@cfsmo.honeywell.com X-To: Pine Info Mailing List X-Authentication-Warning: krambo.cfsmo.honeywell.com: krambo owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am running Pine 4.10 on an HP-UX 11.0 system, and I am having a problem replying to one particular user when he sends me email with attachments. He's using mail under Netscape 4.51, but so are other users, and I have no problem replying to their emails that contain attachments. When I read his email, I see everything just fine: To: "Neary, Annette" Cc: Mark T. Kramm , "Zola, Ken" From: Skip Rosen Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 08:19:58 -0500 Subject: Development support summary Parts/Attachments: 1 Shown 20 lines Text 2 OK 23 KB Application ---------------------------------------- Annette, Here are some thoughts after meeting with Ken and Mark about the Development group's support requirements. Skip -- *********************************************************** Skip Rosen CAD Support Engineer Commercial Aviation Systems / Sensor Products Operation Honeywell Inc. Office: (612) 957-xxxx Good Enough, Never Is. Pager : (612) 818-xxxx E-mail:xxxxx@cfsmo.honeywell.com *********************************************************** [ Part 2, Application/DOC 30KB. ] [ Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part. ] I can see the text just fine, and I can view the attachment just fine. Then I do a "reply", Pine pops me into my editor of choice (emacs) where I see his original email, just like any other email. I type up my response, leave the editor, and back in Pine I see something like: To : Skip Rosen Cc : Bcc : Attchmnt: 1. [Application: support-needs.doc] (30KB) "" Subject : Re: Development support summary ----- Message Text ----- On Thu, 27 May 1999, Skip Rosen wrote: > Annette, > > Here are some thoughts after meeting with Ken and Mark about the > Development group's support requirements. > > Skip > > > Thanks, Skip. Good summary... -- Mark T. Kramm MN51-1380 E-Mail : krambo@cfsmo.honeywell.com Honeywell Inc., CAS-SPO Phone/Fax : 612-957-4350 / 612-957-4195 8840 Evergreen Boulevard Pager : 612-365-3106 Coon Rapids, MN 55433-6040 Disclaimer: "My views, not Honeywell's..." Then I do a Ctrl-X to send the reply and this is what actually gets sent: To: Skip Rosen From: Mark T. Kramm Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:25:32 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Development support summary Parts/Attachments: 1 Shown 19 lines Text 2 OK 23 KB Application, "" ---------------------------------------- On Thu, 27 May 1999, Skip Rosen wrote: > Annette, > > Here are some thoughts after meeting with Ken and Mark about the > Development group's support requirements. > > Skip > > > Thanks, Skip. Good summary... -- Mark T. Kramm MN51-1380 E-Mail : krambo@cfsmo.honeywell.com Honeywell Inc., CAS-SPO Phone/Fax : 612-957-4350 / 612-957-4195 8840 Evergreen Boulevard Pager : 612-365-3106 Coon Rapids, MN 55433-6040 Disclaimer: "My views, not Honeywell's..." [ Part 2, "" Application/DOC 30KB. ] [ Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part. ] The "text" portion of my reply message gets glommed into one paragraph, nuking the formatting of both the original part and my reply. This is repeatable for email with attachments from this user, and isn't limited to "DOC" attachments. But it works just fine for other users with similar attachments. Any clues as to what might be going on? Thanks, Mark -- Mark T. Kramm MN51-1380 E-Mail : krambo@cfsmo.honeywell.com Honeywell Inc., CAS-SPO Phone/Fax : 612-957-4350 / 612-957-4195 8840 Evergreen Boulevard Pager : 612-365-3106 Coon Rapids, MN 55433-6040 Disclaimer: "My views, not Honeywell's..." -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 May 1999 06:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA15381 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 06:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA09424; Fri, 28 May 1999 06:50:59 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id GAA10850; Fri, 28 May 1999 06:50:35 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA30198 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 06:42:03 -0700 Received: from nyntq1.tink.com (SYSTEM@mail2.new-york.net [165.254.101.54]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA19052 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 06:42:03 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com ("port 1169"@aleph.ii.com) by mail2.new-york.net (PMDF V5.1-10 #22883) with ESMTP id <01JBQ5O35UXG8X065G@mail2.new-york.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:41:54 EDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:41:17 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Problem replying to select emails which contain attachments... In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-To: "Mark T. Kramm" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: nm@operamail.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 27 May 1999, Mark T. Kramm wrote: > : > Then I do a "reply", Pine pops me into my editor of choice (emacs) > where I see his original email, just like any other email. I type > up my response, leave the editor, and back in Pine I see something > like: > > To : Skip Rosen > Cc : > Bcc : > Attchmnt: 1. [Application: support-needs.doc] (30KB) "" > Subject : Re: Development support summary > ----- Message Text ----- > On Thu, 27 May 1999, Skip Rosen wrote: > : A possible work-around to this is to make sure the following is unset in your Setup>Configuration screen: [ ] include-attachments-in-reply Unless you need to include the attachment in your reply (but in most cases you probably don't -- actually I can think of *NO* case where sending back the attachment is needed!). Another Q related to your problem: Do you have emacs set up to automatically justify the body of the message in some cases? If so, try disabling that emacs macro. Let us know if this helps, Good luck, Nancy -- For Pine info & links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ ŠNancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink --= Sent via PINE: Power Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 May 1999 06:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA16128 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 06:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA14865; Fri, 28 May 1999 06:56:06 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id GAA10334; Fri, 28 May 1999 06:55:49 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA33912 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 06:45:45 -0700 Received: from nyntq1.tink.com (SYSTEM@mail2.new-york.net [165.254.101.54]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA05739 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 06:45:44 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com ("port 1171"@aleph.ii.com) by mail2.new-york.net (PMDF V5.1-10 #22883) with ESMTP id <01JBQ5SRK1QW8X065G@mail2.new-york.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:45:38 EDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:45:04 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Request: mailto URLs and roles MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: nm@operamail.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN If there is a mailto URL in a message and I click on it, Pine opens up the composer with the mailto address in the To line and uses my default role. I would like to be asked which role I want to use, assuming I'm using: [X] confirm-role-even-for-default Thanks, -- For Pine info & links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ ŠNancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink --= Sent via PINE: Power Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 May 1999 07:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA06377 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 07:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA09799; Fri, 28 May 1999 07:10:01 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id HAA10761; Fri, 28 May 1999 07:09:47 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA28506 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 07:04:46 -0700 Received: from nyntq1.tink.com (SYSTEM@mail2.new-york.net [165.254.101.54]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA23652 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 07:04:45 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com ("port 1193"@aleph.ii.com) by mail2.new-york.net (PMDF V5.1-10 #22883) with ESMTP id <01JBQ6HDEOX48X065G@mail2.new-york.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:04:40 EDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:04:07 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: test In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: nm@operamail.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN test -- For Pine info & links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ ŠNancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink --= Sent via PINE: Power Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 May 1999 07:17:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA14248 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 07:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA15288; Fri, 28 May 1999 07:17:29 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id HAA11776; Fri, 28 May 1999 07:17:13 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA28598 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 07:12:44 -0700 Received: from krambo.cfsmo.honeywell.com (krambo.cfsmo.honeywell.com [137.16.159.148]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA08034 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 07:12:44 -0700 Received: from localhost (krambo@localhost) by krambo.cfsmo.honeywell.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_15509)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA02465; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:12:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:12:00 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Mark T. Kramm" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Problem replying to select emails which contain attachments... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: krambo@cfsmo.honeywell.com X-To: Nancy McGough X-Cc: Pine Info Mailing List X-Authentication-Warning: krambo.cfsmo.honeywell.com: krambo owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 28 May 1999, Nancy McGough wrote: > On 27 May 1999, Mark T. Kramm wrote: > > : > > Then I do a "reply", Pine pops me into my editor of choice (emacs) > > where I see his original email, just like any other email. I type > > up my response, leave the editor, and back in Pine I see something > > like: > > > > To : Skip Rosen > > Cc : > > Bcc : > > Attchmnt: 1. [Application: support-needs.doc] (30KB) "" > > Subject : Re: Development support summary > > ----- Message Text ----- > > On Thu, 27 May 1999, Skip Rosen wrote: > > : > > A possible work-around to this is to make sure the following is unset > in your Setup>Configuration screen: > > [ ] include-attachments-in-reply > Yes, indeed, that solves the problem for "reply", but the problem still exists when I do a "forward" of the same message... > Unless you need to include the attachment in your reply (but in most > cases you probably don't -- actually I can think of *NO* case where > sending back the attachment is needed!). > I agree that typically the attachment isn't needed in the "reply", but there are times when I "reply" to a message and add new people to the CC: list, and I want them to see the attachment. Yes, I can use "forward" for that scenario, but "reply" should work. And, as mentioned above, "forward" has the same problem... > Another Q related to your problem: Do you have emacs set up to > automatically justify the body of the message in some cases? If so, > try disabling that emacs macro. Yes, emacs does do justification for me, but disabling it doesn't make any difference... > > Let us know if this helps, > Good luck, > Nancy > > The user and I worked on it some more this morning, and it turns out that when he formats his message using the "plain text" option under Netscape, all is fine on my end. When he uses the "HTML" option, things get screwed up upon hitting "send". Another pine-info member suggested that I "postpone" my reply and see if the mail in the postponed-msgs folder was screwed up. I did just that, and the postponed message was NOT screwed up. So it appears to be something in the actual "send" process that is flaky. Even my FCC: copy is screwed up. If someone from the Pine development group wants to see the original email for debug purposes, I can "bounce" them a copy. Just let me know... Thanks for the suggestions and help!! Mark -- Mark T. Kramm MN51-1380 E-Mail : krambo@cfsmo.honeywell.com Honeywell Inc., CAS-SPO Phone/Fax : 612-957-4350 / 612-957-4195 8840 Evergreen Boulevard Pager : 612-365-3106 Coon Rapids, MN 55433-6040 Disclaimer: "My views, not Honeywell's..." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 May 1999 07:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA06124 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 07:22:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA10024; Fri, 28 May 1999 07:22:13 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id HAA20481; Fri, 28 May 1999 07:21:58 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA13800 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 07:12:54 -0700 Received: from nyntq1.tink.com (SYSTEM@mail2.new-york.net [165.254.101.54]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA03897 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 07:12:53 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com ("port 1195"@aleph.ii.com) by mail2.new-york.net (PMDF V5.1-10 #22883) with ESMTP id <01JBQ6RFH8QW8X065G@mail2.new-york.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:12:47 EDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:12:14 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Request: Replying to self MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: nm@operamail.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Sorry about that test message I just sent to the list. I was trying to send a test message to myself and so I just typed R for reply to a message I had sent. Pine Developers: *PLEASE* ask the user if she wants to reply to the addresses on the From, To, or Cc lines. It is not intuitive to have a reply go to the address in the To header. Thank you, -- For Pine info & links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ ŠNancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink --= Sent via PINE: Power Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA03453 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA13451; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:34:52 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id JAA17590; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:34:31 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA23568 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:29:35 -0700 Received: from nyntq1.tink.com (SYSTEM@mail2.new-york.net [165.254.101.54]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA06817 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:29:34 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com ("port 1288"@aleph.ii.com) by mail2.new-york.net (PMDF V5.1-10 #22883) with ESMTP id <01JBQBIXB59W8X0O26@mail2.new-york.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Fri, 28 May 1999 12:29:29 EDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 12:28:56 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Request: Popup menu and parent/child screens MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: ii@shell13.ba.best.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In PC-Pine, you can right click and get a popup menu. It would be great if every popup menu had the following in a fixed location (e.g., either at the top or bottom): Parent screen Child screen Or if you want to include shortcut keys, which would be even nicer: Parent screen < Child screen > Thanks for considering this! Nancy -- For Pine info & links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ ŠNancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink --= Sent via PINE: Power Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 May 1999 22:45:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA26908 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 22:45:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA28384; Fri, 28 May 1999 22:45:47 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id WAA10437; Fri, 28 May 1999 22:45:00 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA40550 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 22:39:54 -0700 Received: from caveman.geac.com.au (caveman.geac.com.au [203.30.73.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id WAA27257 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 22:39:51 -0700 Received: (qmail 20733 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 05:47:47 -0000 Received: from brane.geac.com.au (202.6.67.115) by caveman.geac.com.au with SMTP; 29 May 1999 05:47:47 -0000 Received: from fgh.geac.com.au by brane.geac.com.au with smtp\n (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m10nbk5-0002aIC; Sat, 29 May 99 15:33 AEST Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by fgh.geac.com.au?r with ESMTP id PAA19809 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 15:38:04 +1000 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 15:38:03 +1000 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Dave Horsfall To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PINE loops on zero mail check interval MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion List X-Sender: dave@fgh X-No-Archive: Yes X-Witty-Saying: "Tesseract - Enter at own risk" X-Disclaimer: "Me, speak for us?" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN [ I sent a detailed bug report some weeks ago, and haven't even had the courtesy of a reply, hence this post. ] PINE 4.10, on Solaris 2.5. Self-compiled. Runs in X-Windows, or more precisely, OpenWindows using X-Vision on a Windoze PeeCee. My mail file is somewhat large (we're talking ~10Mb, and ~2000 items; OK, so I must clean it up) and it can take say 30 seconds to check for new mail, which is pretty aggravating. When setting mail-check-interval to 0 to turn off mail checking, PINE will eventually loop. This is reproducible with another user. Debugging shows it's stuck in the function display_message(), doing a series of time()/alarm() calls, so it looks like it's trying to write some sort of a message. A brief look at the source indicates that it may be confused by mail-check-interval being zero, but it's hard to tell (I rarely have enough time to debug my own stuff!). Has anyone else experienced this? I've currently set the interval to 65536, as a workaround, which in turn leads me to... Can PINE's obnoxious "feature" of checking for new messages at apparently random times be turned off? I know it checks at intervals, and on the "n" command on the last message, but other actions also seem to trigger it, which possibly explains the above problem. Don't get me wrong - I love PINE, and will not use anything else - but this little problems take the shine off a great product. -- Dave Horsfall VK2KFU dave@geac.com.au Ph: +61 2 9978-7493 Fx: +61 2 9978-7422 Geac Computers P/L (FGH Division) 2/57 Christie St, St Leonards 2065, Australia -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 29 May 1999 08:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA00865 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 08:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA02907; Sat, 29 May 1999 08:16:20 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id IAA16197; Sat, 29 May 1999 08:16:03 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA13640 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 08:10:35 -0700 Received: from ns1.cdc.com (ns1.cdc.com [150.143.16.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA24508 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 08:10:33 -0700 Received: from [129.179.17.10] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sat, 29 May 1999 10:10:29 -0500 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com with ESMTP; Sat, 29 May 1999 23:10:25 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 23:10:25 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PINE loops on zero mail check interval In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Dave Horsfall X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 29 May 1999, Dave Horsfall wrote: > My mail file is somewhat large (we're talking ~10Mb, and ~2000 items; > OK, so I must clean it up) and it can take say 30 seconds to check for > new mail, which is pretty aggravating. I run pine in much the same way that you do. However, I don't allow my INBOX to grow as large as you have. If you frequently allow your INBOX to get this large you may wish to consider switching to a different INBOX format. The mbx format is probably best for your situation. If you pickup the imap distribution there are 2 files in the docs directory which explain the different formats available and their merits. You should also consider upgrading to Solaris7 and then doing a recompile on pine. Having done so, the binary itself reduces in size from about 8Meg to 4Meg. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce GSM: +65-975-10860 Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:14:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA23009 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:14:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA32212; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:14:46 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id RAA11800; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:14:28 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA28664 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:09:14 -0700 Received: from nyntq1.tink.com (SYSTEM@mail2.new-york.net [165.254.101.54]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA32108 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:09:14 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com ("port 1552"@aleph.ii.com) by mail2.new-york.net (PMDF V5.1-10 #22883) with ESMTP id <01JBTK6HPVMO8X16BV@mail2.new-york.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 30 May 1999 20:09:08 EDT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 20:08:32 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: bug: Lines header missing in some of my news posts MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: ii@shell13.ba.best.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I just noticed that a lot of messages that I post to newsgroups with PC-Pine do not have a Lines header. I looked through all the messages in comp.mail.pine that were posted with this in the header: Message-ID: