From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Oct 1 08:41:31 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:41:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA18874 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA07550; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:41:28 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id IAA03442; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:39:35 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA48260 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:34:59 -0700 Received: from ruby.co.clark.nv.us (ruby.co.clark.nv.us [198.200.132.17]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id IAA02435 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:34:58 -0700 Received: by ruby.co.clark.nv.us; (5.65v4.0/1.3/10May95) id AA23413; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:33:20 -0700 Received: from conversion.co.clark.nv.us by mailhub.co.clark.nv.us (PMDF V5.1-12 #29712) id <01JGM40K37LS00485V@mailhub.co.clark.nv.us>; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:33:15 PDT Received: from pyrite.co.clark.nv.us by mailhub.co.clark.nv.us (PMDF V5.1-12 #29712) with SMTP id <01JGM40JCYD8004A1D@mailhub.co.clark.nv.us>; Fri, 01 Oct 1999 08:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 08:33:11 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Joseph Scanlan To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Can I achieve this using PINE ? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-To: Raghavendra Kulkarni X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Raghavendra Kulkarni wrote: > I am working on machine X. > My mails are on machine Y. If you have an IMAP server running on Y, it takes a couple of definitions in your .pinerc on X (I'm assuming both X and Y are Unix machines). For example: inbox-path={Y.mumble.in:143}INBOX incoming-folders=/usr/spool/mail/$USER folder-collections={Y.mumble.in:143}[], mail/[] would tell Pine that it's INBOX is on an IMAP server on Y.mumble.in, a second INBOX is in usr/spool/mail on X.mumble.in, and both machines have folder collections. If you don't have an IMAP server on Y, convince your system administrator to bring one up. I recently installed the imapd that comes with Pine 4.10 on one of our Tru 64 Unix machines (aka Digital Unix (aka OSF/1)) and have no complaints so far. :-) I also access e-mail on a GroupWise (aka GroupStupid) IMAP server but it has... issues... and I can't recommend it. :-( ------------- My opinions are mine alone, and that fact ------------- ------------- provides intense relief for my coworkers. ------------- Joe Scanlan Clark County CEIT Systems Programmer fax 702 455-4932 n7xsd@qsl.net (not work) PO Box 551761 jps@co.clark.nv.us (work) Las Vegas, NV, 89155-1761, USA -------------------- http://www.co.clark.nv.us/ --------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Oct 1 08:54:51 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA19221 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA23709; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:54:47 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id IAA01669; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:53:15 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA43830 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:46:21 -0700 Received: from raven.med.unc.edu (raven.med.unc.edu [152.2.119.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA04286 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:46:20 -0700 Received: from pc523h7-01.med.unc.edu (pc523h7-01.med.unc.edu [152.19.59.130]) by raven.med.unc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA28036 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:46:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:46:18 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Chris Martin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Checkpoint file failure: No space left MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: cmartin@m2.med.unc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am using PC-Pine 4.05 with an IMAP server. No problems until yesterday, when I find I am unable to delete messags from the INBOX. If I execute an EXPUNGE, I get: EXPUNGE failed: Checkpoint file failure: No space left on device same when exiting PINE, nothing is deleted and another Checkpoint file failure occurs. I tried deleting files from the server to make some space--no help. Any ideas what this is?? Chris Martin University of North Carolina From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Oct 1 10:40:58 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA21452 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA11065; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:40:54 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id KAA07358; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:37:18 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA72542 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:30:19 -0700 Received: from lye.youthencounter.org (lye.visi.com [209.98.4.158]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA22550 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:27:52 -0700 Received: from jeff ([192.168.1.174]) by lye.youthencounter.org (8.8.8/SCO5) with SMTP id MAA27397 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 12:25:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <000001bf0c32$99a097c0$ae01a8c0@jeff.youthencounter.org> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 12:30:05 -0500 Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Jeff Rowdon" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: importing address books MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm trying to find ways to import address books into Pine. Bascially I want to run a list from a database with email addresses and names (these will probably be comma or semicolon separated text files) and import them into the pine address book. Is this possible? If so, how do I go about it? Is there a certain number of fields that I need to worry about (i.e. nickname, name, email address, fcc, comments) or can I define the number of fields to input? Thanks for the help! Peace, Jeff at Youth Encounter jeff@youthencounter.org www.youthencounter.org -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Oct 1 12:12:59 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 12:12:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA12843 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 12:12:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA13893; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 12:12:56 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id MAA13685; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 12:08:36 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA33246 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:50:04 -0700 Received: from falcon.dickinson.edu ([205.146.146.187]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA14145 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:50:02 -0700 Received: from localhost by falcon.dickinson.edu (8.8.8/1.1.22.3/25Feb99-0911AM) id OAA0000029500; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:49:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:49:09 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Don Newcomer To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: importing address books In-Reply-To: <000001bf0c32$99a097c0$ae01a8c0@jeff.youthencounter.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jeff Rowdon X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: falcon.dickinson.edu: newcomer owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN We do this on a nightly basis by running a script that uses 'awk' on our /etc/passwd file and creates a tab delimited addressbook file. It then does a 'pine -create_lu yourfilename nickname' to create the global addressbook. Works like a charm. ================================================================================ Don Newcomer Dickinson College Director of System and Network Management P.O. Box 1773 newcomer@dickinson.edu Carlisle, PA 17013 Phone: (717) 245-1256 FAX: (717) 245-1690 On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Jeff Rowdon wrote: > I'm trying to find ways to import address books into Pine. Bascially I want > to run a list from a database with email addresses and names (these will > probably be comma or semicolon separated text files) and import them into > the pine address book. Is this possible? If so, how do I go about it? Is > there a certain number of fields that I need to worry about (i.e. nickname, > name, email address, fcc, comments) or can I define the number of fields to > input? Thanks for the help! > > Peace, > Jeff at Youth Encounter > jeff@youthencounter.org > www.youthencounter.org > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Oct 2 08:47:48 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 08:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA12235 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 08:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA03222; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 08:47:45 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id IAA16896; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 08:44:21 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA19168 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 08:40:05 -0700 Received: from dimple.detroit.lib.mi.us (mail.detroit.lib.mi.us [207.74.196.6]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA29256 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 08:40:04 -0700 Received: from localhost (xmo@localhost) by dimple.detroit.lib.mi.us (8.8.5/8.8.5/TNG) with SMTP id MAA19877 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 12:02:07 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 12:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Xiaoling Mo To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Save Pine info on a disk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there any way that I could save messages in folders on disks? Thanks! -- Xiaoling Mo Detroit Public Library 5201 Woodward Ave. Detroit, MI 48202 (313)833-4790 xmo@detroit.lib.mi.us -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Oct 2 11:21:56 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 11:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA13514 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 11:21:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA21580; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 11:21:52 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id LAA00184; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 11:20:04 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA62816 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 11:16:11 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [129.250.30.40]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA05681 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 11:16:11 -0700 Received: from socha.net (IDENT:root@next3.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.224.32]) by kens.com (8.9.3/8.9.3-mod-for-majordomo) with ESMTP id OAA28964 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 14:16:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from robin@localhost) by socha.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA00709; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 20:15:13 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 02 Oct 1999 20:15:12 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Save Pine info on a disk In-Reply-To: Xiaoling Mo's message of "Sat, 2 Oct 1999 12:02:07 -0400 (EDT)" References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-URL: X-Face: #Z}0zkbqU,m`+S)^0R[.23L-o>U{UQ|(DvIqu^Bjw:po_g9;4JnT9tbn;QX$ga/LYS X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN * Xiaoling Mo writes: > Is there any way that I could save messages in folders on disks? man mcopy -- Robin S. Socha M.A. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Oct 3 08:00:24 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 08:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA30677 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 08:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA22011; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 08:00:21 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id HAA17754; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 07:59:15 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id HAA67360 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 07:55:15 -0700 Received: from mobil.surnet.ru (root@mobil.surnet.ru [195.54.2.7]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id HAA18572 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 07:55:12 -0700 Received: (from uucgilh@localhost) by mobil.surnet.ru (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with UUCP id TAA02161 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 19:54:01 +0500 (UST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cgilh.chel.su (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id TAA00738 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 19:49:01 +0600 Received: from localhost (ilia@localhost) by localhost.cgu.chel.su (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA00382 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2014 11:14:55 +0600 (ESS) (envelope-from ilia@cgilh.chel.su) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 11:14:52 +0600 (ESS) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ilia Chipitsine To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: mouse support ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.cgu.chel.su: ilia owned process doing -bs X-Sender: ilia@localhost.cgu.chel.su X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Dear All, I can invoke pico with "-m" and it gives me a mouse. What about pine ? Regards, (îÁÉÌÕÞÛÉÅ ÐÏÖÅÌÁÎÉÑ) Ilia Chipitsine (éÌØÑ ûÉÐÉÃÉÎ) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBVC4wz+RxlWKN2EXhAQEFGgL/dWNadYpa1peANkR4ImhWrVoxO0Ad7ooW gsz91dkce2ifOEuWqutDAJaCI5380CuPpXzS2A9WQLyhsXiF9ipDtXNPr5woWIkf ZCoaCcyERx4QDitIWc7XzhQePKmxWlE3 =BNb8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Oct 4 09:12:02 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:12:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA19009 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:12:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA28969; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:11:58 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id JAA10629; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:10:34 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA17934 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:06:29 -0700 Received: from nimbus.anzio.com (IDENT:ras@nimbus.anzio.com [204.201.253.34]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA11482 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:06:28 -0700 Received: from localhost (ras@localhost) by nimbus.anzio.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA26606; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:05:02 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:05:02 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bob Rasmussen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: mouse support ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: Ilia Chipitsine X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 3 Oct 2014, Ilia Chipitsine wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >=20 > Dear All, >=20 > I can invoke pico with "-m" and it gives me a mouse. > What about pine ? >=20 > Regards, (=EE=C1=C9=CC=D5=DE=DB=C9=C5 =D0=CF=D6=C5=CC=C1=CE=C9=D1) I assume you are referring to pine on UNIX? If so, it will provide mouse support (with xterm, for instance), if an environment variable DISPLAY is defined. In fact, our telnet product for Windows, called Anzio, supports this featur= e, giving you mouse support from your Windows PC to a Unix-based Pine. --=20 Regards, =2E...Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: ras@anzio.com company e-mail: rsi@anzio.com or sales@anzio.com or support@anzio.com ftp://ftp.anzio.com voice: 503-624-0360 http://www.anzio.com fax: 503-624-0760 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Oct 4 09:36:52 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:36:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA19675 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA12857; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:36:49 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id JAA05735; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:34:29 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA34472 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:30:07 -0700 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA03351 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:30:07 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA30660 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:30:07 -0700 Received: from localhost (hubert@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA21809 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:30:06 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: mouse support ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Pine has a feature called "enable-mouse-in-xterm". -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Fri, 3 Oct 2014, Ilia Chipitsine wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Dear All, > > I can invoke pico with "-m" and it gives me a mouse. > What about pine ? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Oct 4 11:02:16 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:02:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA22157 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA32706; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:02:13 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id LAA17216; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:00:49 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA21244 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:56:38 -0700 Received: from mobil.surnet.ru (root@mobil.surnet.ru [195.54.2.7]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA27511 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:56:34 -0700 Received: (from uucgilh@localhost) by mobil.surnet.ru (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with UUCP id WAA12349; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 22:54:30 +0500 (UST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cgilh.chel.su (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id XAA00796; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 23:15:06 +0600 Received: from localhost (ilia@localhost) by localhost.cgu.chel.su (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA00897; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 23:14:52 +0600 (ESS) (envelope-from ilia@cgilh.chel.su) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 23:14:46 +0600 (ESS) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ilia Chipitsine To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: mouse support ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bob Rasmussen X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.cgu.chel.su: ilia owned process doing -bs X-Sender: ilia@localhost.cgu.chel.su X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Bob Rasmussen wrote: > > I assume you are referring to pine on UNIX? If so, it will provide mouse Yes, I am. I'm using FreeBSD. I also have X, and DISPLAY variable. Mouse is still not working with pine. > support (with xterm, for instance), if an environment variable DISPLAY is Yes, I'm using xterm. > defined. > > In fact, our telnet product for Windows, called Anzio, supports this feature, > giving you mouse support from your Windows PC to a Unix-based Pine. I'm rather interested in Windows-based SSH-client with that feature :-) Regards, Ilia Chipitsine -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBN/jgi+RxlWKN2EXhAQELaQL9FlTTTDoDS9kKaPI5HTN0sofnYnD9yyYi EhZNUr1/33d6GgSoyEW/+Ilyf4j1ti2LOyBrVrxnFvVA6l+QDjs2SLkVI+odzoR7 ZHUrmq2jFHakaJEU7ZYVdN5uDldYRuH6 =tuz1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Oct 4 11:16:30 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA22547 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA00428; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:16:27 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id LAA18008; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:15:12 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA19320 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:10:59 -0700 Received: from viruswall.tc.fluke.com (viruswall.tc.fluke.com [206.138.179.196]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id LAA12873 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:10:58 -0700 Received: from 129.196.184.7 by viruswall.tc.fluke.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Mon, 04 Oct 1999 11:14:37 -0800 Received: from dd.tc.fluke.com (root@dd.tc.fluke.com [129.196.148.100]) by mailhub.tc.fluke.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA29501 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dcd@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dd.tc.fluke.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA05151 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:10:58 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: David Dyck To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: mouse support ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Ilia Chipitsine wrote: > Yes, I am. I'm using FreeBSD. I also have X, and DISPLAY variable. > Mouse is still not working with pine. > > > support (with xterm, for instance), if an environment variable DISPLAY is > > Yes, I'm using xterm. Ok, did you [X] enable-mouse-in-xterm enable it in setup/config? FEATURE: enable-mouse-in-xterm This feature controls whether or not an X terminal mouse can be used with Pine. If set, and the $DISPLAY variable indicates that an X terminal is being used, the left mouse button on the mouse can be used to select text or commands. Note: if this feature is set, the behavior of X terminal cut-and-paste is also modified. It is necessary to hold the shift key down while clicking left or middle mouse buttons for the normal xterm cut/paste operations. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Oct 4 12:09:10 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:09:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA23895 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA17710; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:09:06 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id MAA20924; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:08:11 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA08386 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:04:33 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA08569 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:04:33 -0700 Received: from localhost (mbmiller@localhost) by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA08952 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 14:03:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 14:03:34 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: mouse support ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Ilia Chipitsine wrote: > > In fact, our telnet product for Windows, called Anzio, supports this > > feature, giving you mouse support from your Windows PC to a > > Unix-based Pine. > > I'm rather interested in Windows-based SSH-client with that feature :-) I know that VanDyke (http://www.vandyke.com/) has this feature in their telnet software product (CRT). They also have a product called SecureCRT that probably does what you want. Check their web page. Regards, Mike From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Oct 4 13:59:32 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:59:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id NAA26348 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id NAA20827; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:59:27 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id NAA24593; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:58:43 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id NAA115338 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:55:43 -0700 Received: from mobil.surnet.ru (root@mobil.surnet.ru [195.54.2.7]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id NAA19331 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:55:37 -0700 Received: (from uucgilh@localhost) by mobil.surnet.ru (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with UUCP id BAA16821; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 01:54:23 +0500 (UST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cgilh.chel.su (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id CAA01223; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 02:02:24 +0600 Received: from localhost (ilia@localhost) by localhost.cgu.chel.su (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA12215; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 01:10:07 +0600 (ESS) (envelope-from ilia@cgilh.chel.su) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 01:10:04 +0600 (ESS) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ilia Chipitsine To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: mouse support ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: David Dyck X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.cgu.chel.su: ilia owned process doing -bs X-Sender: ilia@localhost.cgu.chel.su X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, David Dyck wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Ilia Chipitsine wrote: > > > Yes, I am. I'm using FreeBSD. I also have X, and DISPLAY variable. > > Mouse is still not working with pine. > > > > > support (with xterm, for instance), if an environment variable DISPLAY is > > > > Yes, I'm using xterm. > > Ok, did you > [X] enable-mouse-in-xterm > enable it in setup/config? that did it. Thanks a lot. Regards, Ilia Chipitsine -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBN/j7juRxlWKN2EXhAQGqzwL+NEMWEhDbP//sDEo3hMRoTuPTSgqZoSfv S8QwfKZWWmjO9q03GIJHP3ZNOQ9EEkN46ZfTwUlwDub9rHTXVa/9PdLUMeqLXX2Z cQ6NGiDnONQmlXPnA8xkczhZAh8FhGUh =gYO9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Oct 4 15:46:20 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA29138 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:46:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA24004; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:46:17 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id PAA26792; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:44:39 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA61702 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:37:30 -0700 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (root@euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA27701 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:37:30 -0700 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (chappa@goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10016 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:37:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:37:29 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Eduardo Chappa L." To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: [BUG] seclection of messages. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Eduardo Chappa L. (chappa@math.washington.edu) wrote on Sep 22, 1999: :) *** Bino Gopal (bino@columbia.edu) wrote on Sep 20, 1999: :) :) :) Well, this isn't a bug though more of a feture request: :) :) :) :) Is it possible, in the 'Narrow' function, to allow selection of 'NOT' :) :) things? I want to be able to select messages from a mailing list, and :) :) then pick the ones that DON'T have 'router' in the subject. This would be :) :) a REALLY, TRULY, useful feature! If this example doesn't convince you, :) :) see the more detailed one below. :) :) I wrote a patch for doing something very similar to this for :) *local folders*, you can select messages according to not containing a I finally could learn how to talk to the server and the patch works now for incoming folders. The solution was so easy that I am surprised nobody taught me before. Anyway, take the patch from the address below. Have a nice day, Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 5 01:37:41 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 01:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id BAA02266 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 01:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id BAA19895; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 01:37:38 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id BAA19751; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 01:36:37 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id BAA17478 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 01:32:10 -0700 Received: from cbe207.gcal.ac.uk (wsimpson@cbe207.gcal.ac.uk [193.62.250.209]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id BAA17774 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 01:32:09 -0700 Received: from localhost (wsimpson@localhost) by cbe207.gcal.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA00236 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:31:28 GMT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:31:28 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bill Simpson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine slow reading in news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: cbe207.gcal.ac.uk: wsimpson owned process doing -bs X-Sender: wsimpson@cbe207.gcal.ac.uk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I just upgraded to pine 4.10 from pine 3.96 (linux). I needed the new version for its ability to change the From. The old version was fine as a newsreader. Now, though, pine is incredibly slow reading in a list of messages like this: -> 1 Sep 28 Gregor J Jones (1,957) Re: conversion from .eml to elm 2 Sep 30 Charles Prestopine (1,410) Automating Pine in Script 3 Sep 30 Steve Hubert (1,843) Re: Changing the "So and so 4 Sep 30 Jeffrey Goldberg (1,740) Re: 3.96 vs. 4.10? 5 Sep 30 Aaron S. Hawley (1,173) pc-pine and PGP 6 Oct 1 Aaron S. Hawley (2,286) pc-pine and PGP (filter and 7 Oct 1 Eduardo Chappa L. (1,846) Re: pc-pine and PGP (filter and 8 Oct 2 Aaron S. Hawley (2,214) Re: pc-pine and PGP (filter and 9 Oct 4 J. Rieling (1,164) Re: pc-pine and PGP (filter and 10 Oct 1 Marco Fare' (1,061) rsh timeout 11 Oct 2 Mark Derricutt (1,189) KPine - Pine for KDE It used to be almost instant. Now it is so slow as to make pine unusable as a newsreader. I still have pine 3.96 installed, and it still works fine--nice and quick. I looked at the 4.10 setup configuration. It is quite different layout in there now. Near the top there used to be something like: news-collections = I can't find this any more. Maybe this is related to my problem? Thanks very much for any help! Bill -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 5 02:06:41 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 02:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id CAA05597 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 02:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id CAA02934; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 02:06:38 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id CAA20140; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 02:05:35 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id CAA25318 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 02:02:21 -0700 Received: from cbe207.gcal.ac.uk (wsimpson@cbe207.gcal.ac.uk [193.62.250.209]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id CAA03258 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 02:02:20 -0700 Received: from localhost (wsimpson@localhost) by cbe207.gcal.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA00314 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:01:39 GMT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:01:39 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bill Simpson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine slow reading in news In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1052889594-334145417-939117699=:312" X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: cbe207.gcal.ac.uk: wsimpson owned process doing -bs X-Sender: wsimpson@cbe207.gcal.ac.uk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1052889594-334145417-939117699=:312 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I attach my .pinerc file. Maybe the problem is hidden there? Thanks very much for any help. 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(8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id FAA24192 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 05:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id FAA18029; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 05:45:19 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id FAA08783; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 05:39:28 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA33238 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 05:34:36 -0700 Received: from giasmda.vsnl.net.in (giasmda.vsnl.net.in [202.54.6.161]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id FAA28244 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 05:34:32 -0700 Received: from localhost by giasmda.vsnl.net.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA27438 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 18:03:47 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 18:03:47 +0000 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: ASHWANTH FERNANDO To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: query from a novice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "discussion.forum" X-Sender: ashwanth@giasmda X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To Pine Members, I am a novice to computers and PINE. I find it difficult to open attachments sent by friends. For example when the attachment index says as follows " [Part 2, Application/MS-TNEF 3.8KB] [Cannot display this part. Press "V" then "S" to save in a file]", in the screen. - I press "V" as directed , and the following MESSAGE appears on the screen " 1 29 lines Text/PLAIN 2 2.9 KB Application/MS-TNEF " Then when I press "S" as directed the screen says as follows:- "Copy attachment to file in home directory: ^G Help ^T To Files ^C Cancel Ret Accept SAVE ATTACHMENT FILE BROWSER Dir: /home1/users/ashwanth/home" When I press >T To Files the following message appears. " .. (parent dir) mail (dir) #pico23769# 3.4 KB #pico28391# 1.2 KB &brand=xcihHqgQt 16 KB @ 30 KB core 67 KB search.htm stamps gandhi 19 KB" Suppose if I wish to open Stamps Gandhi 19 KB,what should I do? It may be also noted that if press "About Attachment"command, it says "Unknown format hence cannot be opened." Will any one HELP ? Ashwanth Fernando -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Oct 9 13:21:11 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 13:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id NAA32219 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 13:21:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id NAA07130; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 13:21:08 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id NAA15912; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 13:20:29 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA88048 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 13:17:21 -0700 Received: from rzusuntk.unizh.ch (rzumail2.unizh.ch [130.60.128.10]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id NAA23148 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 13:17:20 -0700 Received: [from rzurs10.unizh.ch (cbrand@rzurs10.unizh.ch [130.60.68.60]) by rzusuntk.unizh.ch (8.8.5/SMI-5.31) with ESMTP id WAA25106; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 22:17:17 +0200 (MET DST)] Received: from localhost (cbrand@localhost) by rzurs10.unizh.ch (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id WAA69804; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 22:17:17 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 22:17:16 +0200 (MEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Christina Brand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: query from a novice In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: ASHWANTH FERNANDO X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: rzurs10.unizh.ch: cbrand owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi Ashwanth! u can not display attachments directly in Pine, u've done well in saving. **to have a look at your attachments fill in this URL: ftp://ashwanth@giasmda.vsnl.net.in it will open a PW Entry Dialog, fill in your PW, here u are. **another way is over the WS_FTP9Pro as we use it also at the university: open the program and fill in. here u also can edit your account. hope it helps u and best regards Christina > For example when the attachment index says as follows=20 >=20 > " [Part 2, Application/MS-TNEF 3.8KB] >=20 > [Cannot display this part. Press "V" then "S" to save in a file]", in > the screen. >=20 > - I press "V" as directed , and the following MESSAGE appears on the > screen >=20 >=20 >=20 > " 1 29 lines Text/PLAIN > 2 2.9 KB Application/MS-TNEF " >=20 > Then when I press "S" as directed the screen says as follows:- >=20 > "Copy attachment to file in home directory: > ^G Help ^T To Files > ^C Cancel Ret Accept > SAVE ATTACHMENT FILE BROWSER Dir: > /home1/users/ashwanth/home" >=20 > When I press >T To Files the following message appears. > " > .. (parent dir) mail (dir) > #pico23769# 3.4 KB #pico28391# 1.2 KB > &brand=3DxcihHqgQt 16 KB @ 30 KB > core 67 KB search.htm stamps gandhi 19 KB" >=20 > Suppose if I wish to open Stamps Gandhi 19 KB,what should I do? >=20 > It may be also noted that if press "About Attachment"command, it says > "Unknown format hence cannot be opened." >=20 > Will any one HELP ? Ashwanth Fernando >=20 > --=20 > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:=20 > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 **************************************************************** Christina Brand Roswiesenstr. 153=09 8051 Z=FCrich=09 TelP: 01/ 322 36 10 Tel Uni: 01/ 635 44 57 or 48 55 Pager: 074/ 411 75 38 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Oct 9 21:20:45 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 21:20:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA04203 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 21:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA13613; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 21:20:42 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id VAA23585; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 21:19:13 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA61186 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 21:16:41 -0700 Received: from hal9k.org (PPP3-69.bom.vsnl.net.in [202.54.3.69]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA17053 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 21:16:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (satyap@localhost) by hal9k.org (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA00805 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:28:29 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:28:29 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Satya To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: query from a novice In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: hal9k.org: satyap owned process doing -bs X-Sender: satyap@hal9k.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Oct 9, 1999 at 18:03, ASHWANTH FERNANDO wrote: > I am a novice to computers and PINE. I find it difficult to open > attachments sent by friends. > For example when the attachment index says as follows ['attachment index' (actually message display?) snipped] > [Cannot display this part. Press "V" then "S" to save in a file]", in > the screen. > > - I press "V" as directed , and the following MESSAGE appears on the > screen Correct. > " 1 29 lines Text/PLAIN > 2 2.9 KB Application/MS-TNEF " > > Then when I press "S" as directed the screen says as follows:- > > "Copy attachment to file in home directory: > > When I press >T To Files the following message appears. No. Put the cursor on the correct attachment and press S. You may edit the filename. > .. (parent dir) mail (dir) > #pico23769# 3.4 KB #pico28391# 1.2 KB > &brand=xcihHqgQt 16 KB @ 30 KB > core 67 KB search.htm stamps gandhi 19 KB" > > Suppose if I wish to open Stamps Gandhi 19 KB,what should I do? Note that your home directory is slightly screwed up. Remove the core dump and quit saving files with spaces in them. VSNL's rksh won't let you delete (or even access) them. This is getting off-topic. > It may be also noted that if press "About Attachment"command, it says > "Unknown format hence cannot be opened." Yes. It can only open certain types of files (mime.types, anyone?) -- Satya. http://satyaonline.cjb.net/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Oct 9 21:29:11 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 21:29:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA04283 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 21:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA30935; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 21:29:07 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id VAA00565; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 21:28:37 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA115320 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 21:26:15 -0700 Received: from hal9k.org (PPP3-69.bom.vsnl.net.in [202.54.3.69]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA17564 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 21:26:05 -0700 Received: from localhost (satyap@localhost) by hal9k.org (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA01023 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:58:57 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:58:56 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Satya To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: query from a novice In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: hal9k.org: satyap owned process doing -bs X-Sender: satyap@hal9k.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Oct 9, 1999 at 22:17, Christina Brand wrote: > **to have a look at your attachments fill in this URL: > > ftp://ashwanth@giasmda.vsnl.net.in > > it will open a PW Entry Dialog, fill in your PW, here u are. Except that VSNL doesn't allow ftp access to the home directories. Mr. Fernando is probably using a dialup shell account with India's VSNL ISP and using rksh. Many things are not possible. -- Satya. http://satyaonline.cjb.net/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 06:13:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA32586 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 06:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA08526; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 06:13:53 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id GAA21520; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 06:11:18 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA31040 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 06:06:33 -0700 Received: from giasmda.vsnl.net.in (giasmda.vsnl.net.in [202.54.6.161]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA20963 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 06:06:29 -0700 Received: from localhost by giasmda.vsnl.net.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA16016; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:35:47 GMT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:35:46 +0000 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: ASHWANTH FERNANDO To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: query from a novice In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Satya X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ashwanth@giasmda X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Satya, Thanks for the prompt reply. Yes mine is a shell account. Now I know its limitations. Thanks, Ashwanth Fernando On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, Satya wrote: > On Oct 9, 1999 at 18:03, ASHWANTH FERNANDO wrote: > > > I am a novice to computers and PINE. I find it difficult to open > > attachments sent by friends. > > For example when the attachment index says as follows > > ['attachment index' (actually message display?) snipped] > > > [Cannot display this part. Press "V" then "S" to save in a file]", in > > the screen. > > > > - I press "V" as directed , and the following MESSAGE appears on the > > screen > > Correct. > > > " 1 29 lines Text/PLAIN > > 2 2.9 KB Application/MS-TNEF " > > > > Then when I press "S" as directed the screen says as follows:- > > > > "Copy attachment to file in home directory: > > > > When I press >T To Files the following message appears. > > No. Put the cursor on the correct attachment and press S. You may edit the > filename. > > > .. (parent dir) mail (dir) > > #pico23769# 3.4 KB #pico28391# 1.2 KB > > &brand=xcihHqgQt 16 KB @ 30 KB > > core 67 KB search.htm stamps gandhi 19 KB" > > > > Suppose if I wish to open Stamps Gandhi 19 KB,what should I do? > > Note that your home directory is slightly screwed up. Remove the core dump > and quit saving files with spaces in them. VSNL's rksh won't let you > delete (or even access) them. This is getting off-topic. > > > It may be also noted that if press "About Attachment"command, it says > > "Unknown format hence cannot be opened." > > Yes. It can only open certain types of files (mime.types, anyone?) > > -- > Satya. > http://satyaonline.cjb.net/ > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 07:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id HAA02413 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 07:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id HAA10119; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 07:52:10 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id HAA23075; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 07:48:45 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA71384 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 07:45:42 -0700 Received: from smtp01.infoave.net (smtp01.infoave.net [165.166.0.26]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id HAA24737 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 07:45:42 -0700 Received: from eDivision.net ("port 4670"@[206.151.216.5]) by SMTP00.InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) with ESMTP id <01JH07J3UU3K8Y5ZB7@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:45:33 EDT Message-Id: <3801F8FD.B0B0F4C4@eDivision.net> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:49:33 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: ski To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: query from a novice References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Accept-Language: en X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN ashwanth: it is my experience that a shell account provides a lot more power [and options] than a limited functionality account. yes, more power requires more skill. -ski ASHWANTH FERNANDO wrote: > > Dear Satya, > Thanks for the prompt reply. Yes mine is a shell account. Now I know its > limitations. Thanks, Ashwanth Fernando From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 17:33:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id RAA11413 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 17:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id RAA11666; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 17:33:52 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id RAA15957; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 17:32:53 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA45570 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 17:24:26 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id RAA03877 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 17:24:25 -0700 Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id RAA26609; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 17:24:23 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id RAA21210; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 17:23:09 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA29238 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 16:23:58 -0700 Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA14385 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 16:23:58 -0700 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (mailhost1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA14063 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 16:23:58 -0700 Received: from D-128-95-135-197.dhcp.washington.edu (D-128-95-135-197.dhcp.washington.edu [128.95.135.197]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA01860 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 16:23:58 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 16:23:57 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Michael Seibel To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.20 now available MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: PINE-ANNOUNCE-owner@u.washington.edu X-To: Pine Announcement List X-X-Sender: mikes@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System version 4.20. This latest release introduces a couple of significant new features, provides performance improvements on several fronts, and fixes a number of bugs found in earlier releases. More specific information can be found in the built-in release notes ("R" off the Main Menu), and via: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/ and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/ Source for the latest Pine release is available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz and precompiled binaries for the various systems we have direct access to are available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed The corresponding PC-Pine distribution is available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/pm420w32.zip As with all Pine releases, it is important that you carefully test and determine for yourself that it performs suitably in your environment before placing Pine into production use. Enjoy! The Pine Development Team -- ------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html ------------------------------------------------------------- -- ------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html ------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 04:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id EAA27018 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 04:38:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id EAA23012; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 04:38:02 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id EAA02195; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 04:37:28 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA23500 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 04:34:40 -0700 Received: from mailhost.squeegy.org (c54820-a.carneg1.pa.home.com [24.1.40.189]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id EAA04506 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 04:34:38 -0700 Received: from wiggles.squeegy.org (wiggles.squeegy.org [192.168.1.3]) by mailhost.squeegy.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA01633 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 07:33:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (chiodi@localhost) by wiggles.squeegy.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA17993 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 07:34:57 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 07:34:57 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: squeegy+pine@squeegy.org Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: squeegy+pine@squeegy.org To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.20 now available In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: wiggles.squeegy.org: chiodi owned process doing -bs X-Sender: chiodi@wiggles.squeegy.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Just installed it and WOW! it rocks! I am no longer getting IMAP protocol: missing required arguement to fetch. most cool. keep up the good work dudes! > This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System > version 4.20. This latest release introduces a couple of significant new > features, provides performance improvements on several fronts, and fixes a > number of bugs found in earlier releases. > > More specific information can be found in the built-in release notes ("R" > off the Main Menu), and via: > > http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/ > and > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/ > > Source for the latest Pine release is available in: > > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z > and > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz > > and precompiled binaries for the various systems we have direct access to > are available in: > > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin > and > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed > > The corresponding PC-Pine distribution is available in: > > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/pm420w32.zip > > As with all Pine releases, it is important that you carefully test and > determine for yourself that it performs suitably in your environment > before placing Pine into production use. > > Enjoy! > > The Pine Development Team > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html > ------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html > ------------------------------------------------------------- > ___________________ Jt "The Squeegy" Chiodi http://www.squeegy.org/ squeegy@squeegy.org From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 04:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id EAA26558 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 04:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id EAA23200; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 04:50:08 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id EAA02393; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 04:49:42 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA28078 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 04:46:48 -0700 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id EAA26950 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 04:46:43 -0700 Received: from swamp.bayern.net (gator@gator.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.148.15]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA28677 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:40:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from gator@localhost) by swamp.bayern.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA07881; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:37:24 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:37:24 +0200 (MEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Peter Daum To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.20: no window resize In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: gator@gator.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, thanks for the new pine release! One little problem: for some reason at least under Linux the code for handling window size changes is by default disabled in this release - if pine is running in an xterm and you resize the window, the display gets messed up pretty bad. Did this happen intentionally? (I personally turned it back on by "brute force" with "build EXTRACFLAGS=-DRESIZING" and adding some "include " - everything seems to work o.k.) Regards, Peter -- __o Peter Daum _'\<_ - pgp messages welcome - ____(_)/(_) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:13:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA29980 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA26874; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:13:35 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id IAA27314; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:12:23 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA08292 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:09:19 -0700 Received: from law.usc.edu (law.usc.edu [128.125.42.6]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA24676 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:09:18 -0700 Received: from l2122.usc.edu (l2122 [128.125.42.67]) by law.usc.edu (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA23994; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:14:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:07:41 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Robert Larmon To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.20 now available In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Michael Seibel X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: rlarmon@faculty-law.usc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Well, so far I really like it! I love the customized colors and the filters as well. I know my users will love customizing the colors, especially the ability to use more than the standard 8 or so colors. Otherwise, it looks pretty solid. Great job guys! Robert On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Michael Seibel wrote: > This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System > version 4.20. This latest release introduces a couple of significant new > features, provides performance improvements on several fronts, and fixes a > number of bugs found in earlier releases. > > More specific information can be found in the built-in release notes ("R" > off the Main Menu), and via: > > http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/ > and > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/ > > Source for the latest Pine release is available in: > > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z > and > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz > > and precompiled binaries for the various systems we have direct access to > are available in: > > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin > and > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed > > The corresponding PC-Pine distribution is available in: > > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/pm420w32.zip > > As with all Pine releases, it is important that you carefully test and > determine for yourself that it performs suitably in your environment > before placing Pine into production use. > > Enjoy! > > The Pine Development Team > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html > ------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html > ------------------------------------------------------------- > ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ` Robert Larmon ` ` PC Systems Analyst ` ` USC Law School Computing Services ` ` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:54:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA30644 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA28034; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:54:01 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id IAA09080; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:50:12 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA11528 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:45:08 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA18820 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:45:08 -0700 Received: from localhost (mbmiller@localhost) by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA29045; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:43:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:43:21 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.20: no window resize In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Peter Daum X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I built pine under Solaris 2.6 using gcc with no special options, and xterm window sizing is fine. It must be a platform-dependent problem. --Mike On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Peter Daum wrote: > One little problem: > > for some reason at least under Linux the code for handling window > size changes is by default disabled in this release - if pine is > running in an xterm and you resize the window, the display gets > messed up pretty bad. > > Did this happen intentionally? (I personally turned it back on by > "brute force" with "build EXTRACFLAGS=-DRESIZING" and adding some > "include " - everything seems to work o.k.) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA23693 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA10625; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:55:49 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id IAA29663; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:54:53 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA54334 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:46:44 -0700 Received: from law.usc.edu (law.usc.edu [128.125.42.6]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA19117 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:46:44 -0700 Received: from l2122.usc.edu (l2122 [128.125.42.67]) by law.usc.edu (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA24334 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:45:04 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Robert Larmon To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine icon in systray gone? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: rlarmon@faculty-law.usc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I don't see the green/red pine tree in the system tray (win98) anymore. Is it supposed to be there? If not, why did it leave? It was very useful when I have 15 windows going (which is very often). I was using 4.10 and just copied over the old files. Should I have done anything different? Robert ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ` Robert Larmon ` ` PC Systems Analyst ` ` USC Law School Computing Services ` ` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:02:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA31642 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA28309; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:02:32 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id JAA10065; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:01:53 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA24548 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:58:23 -0700 Received: from law.usc.edu (law.usc.edu [128.125.42.6]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA31474 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:58:22 -0700 Received: from l2122.usc.edu (l2122 [128.125.42.67]) by law.usc.edu (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24532 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:56:42 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Robert Larmon To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine icon in systray gone? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: rlarmon@faculty-law.usc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Nevermind - I see it integrated with the taskbar icon. I jumped the gun, sorry. Robert On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Robert Larmon wrote: > I don't see the green/red pine tree in the system tray (win98) anymore. > Is it supposed to be there? If not, why did it leave? It was very useful > when I have 15 windows going (which is very often). I was using 4.10 and > just copied over the old files. Should I have done anything different? > > Robert > > > > ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` > ` Robert Larmon ` > ` PC Systems Analyst ` > ` USC Law School Computing Services ` > ` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` > ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' > > ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ` Robert Larmon ` ` PC Systems Analyst ` ` USC Law School Computing Services ` ` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA01619 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA13564; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:32:21 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id KAA14272; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:30:06 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA24026 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:21:40 -0700 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA15495 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:21:40 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA09654 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:21:40 -0700 Received: from localhost (hubert@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA09781 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:21:39 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.20: no window resize In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Peter, There were a couple changes to the linux port that must be causing this problem for you. We're now using the POSIX terminal driver (termios.h) instead of the System V driver (termio.h) and we're using the ncurses library and TERMINFO instead of the termcap library and TERMCAP. We've been told by several people that these changes are appropriate for newer linux systems. The changes were made to: pico/makefile.lnx, pico/osdep/os-lnx.h, pico/osdep/os-lnx.ic, and pine/makefile.lnx -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Peter Daum wrote: > Hi, > > thanks for the new pine release! > > One little problem: > > for some reason at least under Linux the code for handling window > size changes is by default disabled in this release - if pine is > running in an xterm and you resize the window, the display gets > messed up pretty bad. > > Did this happen intentionally? (I personally turned it back on by > "brute force" with "build EXTRACFLAGS=-DRESIZING" and adding some > "include " - everything seems to work o.k.) > > Regards, > Peter > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA04772 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA02324; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:33:18 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA29291; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:31:35 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA23994 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:27:33 -0700 Received: from locutus.plaidranch.org (root@locutus.plaidranch.org [209.151.69.20]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA30152 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:27:32 -0700 Received: from localhost (manuka@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by locutus.plaidranch.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05821; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:26:32 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:26:31 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ian Hall-Beyer To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.20: no window resize In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Miller X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: manuka@locutus.plaidranch.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Mike Miller wrote: > I built pine under Solaris 2.6 using gcc with no special options, and > xterm window sizing is fine. It must be a platform-dependent problem. I would agree, looks like all my window sizing under linux went to crap after I updated to glibc 2.1, not just in pine. -Ian -- wow, this is kinda nifty. the win98 protocol stack is like a chinese finger puzzle, twist and turn in the right places, and it pops right off --Seen on EFNet IRC From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA05141 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA17660; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:37:01 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA22770; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:36:00 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA25804 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:31:18 -0700 Received: from mailhost.squeegy.org (c54820-a.carneg1.pa.home.com [24.1.40.189]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA19947 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:31:17 -0700 Received: from wiggles.squeegy.org (wiggles.squeegy.org [192.168.1.3]) by mailhost.squeegy.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA01984; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:29:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (chiodi@localhost) by wiggles.squeegy.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20658; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:31:07 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:31:07 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: squeegy+pine@squeegy.org Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: squeegy+pine@squeegy.org To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.20: no window resize In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Steve Hubert X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: wiggles.squeegy.org: chiodi owned process doing -bs X-Sender: chiodi@wiggles.squeegy.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am having the same difficulty resizing my SuSE 6.1 kernel 2.2.12 system. Can someone post the exact changes to the files to get this to compile. I tried changing the files listed below but did not know what to change in the makefiles or .ic file. I changed the termios.h and TERMINFO entry in the pico/osdep/os-lnx.h and rebuilt but it errored out. > Peter, > There were a couple changes to the linux port that must be causing this > problem for you. We're now using the POSIX terminal driver > (termios.h) instead of the System V driver (termio.h) and we're using the > ncurses library and TERMINFO instead of the termcap library and > TERMCAP. We've been told by several people that these changes are > appropriate for newer linux systems. The changes were made to: > > pico/makefile.lnx, pico/osdep/os-lnx.h, pico/osdep/os-lnx.ic, and > pine/makefile.lnx > > -- > Steve Hubert > Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle > > On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Peter Daum wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > thanks for the new pine release! > > > > One little problem: > > > > for some reason at least under Linux the code for handling window > > size changes is by default disabled in this release - if pine is > > running in an xterm and you resize the window, the display gets > > messed up pretty bad. > > > > Did this happen intentionally? (I personally turned it back on by > > "brute force" with "build EXTRACFLAGS=-DRESIZING" and adding some > > "include " - everything seems to work o.k.) > > > > Regards, > > Peter > > > > ___________________ Jt "The Squeegy" Chiodi http://www.squeegy.org/ squeegy@squeegy.org From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:26:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id NAA05547 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id NAA03833; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:26:02 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id NAA03128; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:25:00 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA19542 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:22:02 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id NAA07423 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:22:02 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id NAA03684 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:22:02 -0700 Received: from localhost (mbmiller@localhost) by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA00919 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:21:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:21:50 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: [bug] new bug in message status: N stays on MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I had two messages in my saved-messages folder (where I save all incoming and outgoing messages) that I had mailed out and that both had N flags on them. Normally, with older versions of Pine, if I looked at those messages, the N flag would go away, and it would stay gone. Now it doesn't seem to work that way... I look at the saved message (in saved-messages), then return to Index. Then N is gone, as it should be. I then move to another folder index, then return to the saved-messages index, and the darned N is back! It isn't supposed to come back! I'm using the new Pine 4.20 on Solaris 2.6 OS. I built it from source and in the standard way and it seemed to go well. Regards, Mike -- Michael B. Miller, M.S., Ph.D., M.P.E. Department of Psychology 210 McAlester Hall University of Missouri--Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 Phone: (573) 882-5671 Fax: (573) 882-7710 e-mail: mbmiller@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu web: http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id NAA06824 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id NAA19590; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:47:15 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id NAA17285; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:46:06 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA11314 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:43:08 -0700 Received: from gort.office.aol.com (pix-fw.wan.aol.com [152.163.190.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id NAA00612 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:43:04 -0700 Received: from DBPETE ([10.2.107.45]) by gort.office.aol.com with ESMTP (8.7.1/8.7.1) id QAA28517 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:42:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:43:00 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Dan Peterson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine icon in systray gone? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: pete@gort.office.aol.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I noticed the same thing and was going to ask the same question. I've also meant to ask (quite some time ago), if it's possible to ONLY have the systray icon when Pine is minimized. There's a lot of programs that do that. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Peterson Senior Software Engineer AOL Email: dbpete@aol.com Phone: 703-265-0226 FAX: 703-265-2405 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Robert Larmon wrote: > I don't see the green/red pine tree in the system tray (win98) > anymore. Is it supposed to be there? If not, why did it leave? It > was very useful when I have 15 windows going (which is very often). > I was using 4.10 and just copied over the old files. Should I have > done anything different? > > Robert From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA27368 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA20355; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:11:44 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id OAA28290; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:10:43 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA29466 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:08:07 -0700 Received: from ns1.wmdc.edu (ns1.wmdc.edu [207.196.30.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA05533 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:08:06 -0700 Received: from pbsmith (BSmith.wmdc.edu [207.196.30.54]) by ns1.wmdc.edu (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA73787 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 17:04:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 17:11:29 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Brad Smith" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Configuring Pine to automatically convert HTML to plain text? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am working with two installations of Pine -- both on Unix boxes. One is version 3.94, the other 3.96 When I e-mail a HTML encoded message to myself at both places, the version 3.94 software presents the raw HTML code when viewing the body of the message. In contrast, the 3.96 install presents a version of the HTML that's been converted to plain text. It looks like the second install is converting and displaying "part 1" of the message and the first install is displaying the HTML contained in "part 2". How can I configure the first install to display the "part 1" which is in plain text, rather than part 2? Thanks, Brad Smith Department of Sociology Western Maryland College Westminster, MD 21157 410-857-2532 - work 410-871-9464 - home 877-668-9942 - voicemail and fax -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:20:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA07911 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA05776; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:20:03 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id OAA05731; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:18:59 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA32586 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:16:15 -0700 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA07084 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:16:15 -0700 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (mailhost2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA26810; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:13:39 -0700 Received: from D-128-95-135-197.dhcp.washington.edu (D-128-95-135-197.dhcp.washington.edu [128.95.135.197]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA02347; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:13:39 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:13:39 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Michael Seibel To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.20: no window resize In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="15531978-13373-939849219=:188" X-To: squeegy+pine@squeegy.org X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: mikes@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --15531978-13373-939849219=:188 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 squeegy+pine@squeegy.org wrote, in part: > Can someone post the exact changes to the files to get this to compile. Let us know if the attached, one-line diff doesn't do the trick. Sorry for any problems this is causing... -mikes --15531978-13373-939849219=:188 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=os-lnx-diff Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: pico/osdep/os-lnx.h resize patch Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=os-lnx-diff KioqIHBpY28vb3NkZXAvb3MtbG54Lmgub3JpZwlXZWQgU2VwIDIyIDEyOjU3 OjI2IDE5OTkNCi0tLSBwaWNvL29zZGVwL29zLWxueC5oCVdlZCBPY3QgMTMg MTM6MjU6MTIgMTk5OQ0KKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqDQoqKiogMzMsMzggKioq Kg0KLS0tIDMzLDM5IC0tLS0NCiAgI2luY2x1ZGUgPHB3ZC5oPg0KICAjaW5j bHVkZSA8c3lzL3dhaXQuaD4NCiAgI2luY2x1ZGUgPHN5cy9zdGF0Lmg+DQor ICNpbmNsdWRlIDxzeXMvaW9jdGwuaD4NCiAgI2luY2x1ZGUgPGZjbnRsLmg+ DQogICNpbmNsdWRlIDxuZXRkYi5oPg0KICANCg== --15531978-13373-939849219=:188-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA08829 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:02:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA22128; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:02:04 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA01094; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:01:16 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA41246 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:58:12 -0700 Received: from corellia.edlund.org (g121.ryd.student.liu.se [130.236.238.121]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA26060 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:58:11 -0700 Received: by corellia.edlund.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 609AF1039; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 23:58:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corellia.edlund.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED791038; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 23:58:10 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 23:58:10 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Henrik Edlund To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.20: no window resize In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Steve Hubert X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The linux binary you provide at the ftpsite do not run well under Mandrake Linux 6.1 anyway. Complains about missing termcap. Haven't looked into recompiling it myself yet. On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Steve Hubert wrote: > Peter, > There were a couple changes to the linux port that must be causing this > problem for you. We're now using the POSIX terminal driver > (termios.h) instead of the System V driver (termio.h) and we're using the > ncurses library and TERMINFO instead of the termcap library and > TERMCAP. We've been told by several people that these changes are > appropriate for newer linux systems. The changes were made to: > > pico/makefile.lnx, pico/osdep/os-lnx.h, pico/osdep/os-lnx.ic, and > pine/makefile.lnx > > -- Henrik Edlund http://www.edlund.org/ "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Naturally they became heroes." Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:33:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA10559 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:33:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA08030; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:33:45 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA22102; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:32:59 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA36160 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:30:04 -0700 Received: from noella.mindsec.com (IDENT:frantic@noella.mindsec.com [209.172.192.12]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA31698 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:30:04 -0700 Received: from localhost (IDENT:simple@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by noella.mindsec.com (8.9.3/8.9.3a) with ESMTP id QAA17746; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:29:50 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:29:50 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Erik Parker To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.20: no window resize In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ian Hall-Beyer X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I had some errors under Slackware libc5.. Running from SecureCRT via ssh.. but thinking its running in an xterm.. It wasn't too bad, just had some of a past message showing up on the screen. CTRL-L is your friend. On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Ian Hall-Beyer wrote: > On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Mike Miller wrote: > > > I built pine under Solaris 2.6 using gcc with no special options, and > > xterm window sizing is fine. It must be a platform-dependent problem. > > I would agree, looks like all my window sizing under linux went to crap > after I updated to glibc 2.1, not just in pine. > > -Ian > > -- > wow, this is kinda nifty. the win98 protocol stack is > like a chinese finger puzzle, twist and turn in the right places, > and it pops right off --Seen on EFNet IRC > Erik Parker eparker@mindsec.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:48:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA11123 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA23363; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:48:28 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA02875; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:47:28 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA19574 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:45:19 -0700 Received: from mailhost.squeegy.org (c54820-a.carneg1.pa.home.com [24.1.40.189]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA11929 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:45:17 -0700 Received: from wiggles.squeegy.org (wiggles.squeegy.org [192.168.1.3]) by mailhost.squeegy.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA02218; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 18:43:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (chiodi@localhost) by wiggles.squeegy.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA21808; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 18:45:15 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 18:45:15 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: squeegy+pine@squeegy.org Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: squeegy+pine@squeegy.org To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.20: no window resize In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Michael Seibel X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: wiggles.squeegy.org: chiodi owned process doing -bs X-Sender: chiodi@wiggles.squeegy.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thanks that worked for me. I can resize till the cows come home! > On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 squeegy+pine@squeegy.org wrote, in part: > > > Can someone post the exact changes to the files to get this to compile. > > Let us know if the attached, one-line diff doesn't do the trick. > Sorry for any problems this is causing... > > -mikes > ___________________ Jt "The Squeegy" Chiodi http://www.squeegy.org/ squeegy@squeegy.org From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 18:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id SAA14886 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 18:51:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id SAA29023; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 18:51:21 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id SAA16832; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 18:50:22 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA45966 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 18:46:19 -0700 Received: from desi.techiesinc.com (desi.techiesinc.com [206.245.137.117]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id SAA29862 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 18:46:18 -0700 Received: from ethel (lbd@ethel.techiesinc.com [206.245.137.116]) by desi.techiesinc.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA10577 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 21:35:49 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 21:55:21 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Leslie Dreyer Kalra To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: month_num function Y2K compliant? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello... I've searched the archive for any mention of this function and found nothing. It looks to me like the month_num() function in pine/strings.c may not be Y2K compliant. This function returns the month number of the month in the string argument. This month number appears to include the year, making it months since the millennium, unless I'm reading it wrong. Here's the line that worries me (line 652): month = (year < 100 ? year + 1900 : year) * 12 + i; This appears to correct for 2-digit years by adding 1900, which will be incorrect next year. I can find only one call to this function, in init.c (line 4684): sm->month_num = month_num(sm->name + (size_t)folder_base_len + 1); Now, sm->name contains the name of a "sent" folder, which *is* of the format sent-mmm-yyyy, as named by pine. As long as the file continues to be named correctly it will work, but if someone renames it with a 2-digit year, it will break next year. I'd like to give pine a clean bill of health Y2K-wise, but I need to resolve this first. If I'm missing something obvious, please set me straight. I admit that I don't know the code as intimately as I would like to, but time is limited... Thanks, everybody... leslie -- Leslie Dreyer Kalra Techies, Inc. Computing and Internet lbd@techiesinc.com Consultant -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id TAA15303 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:07:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id TAA29307; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:07:31 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id TAA10064; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:06:25 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA22604 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:03:39 -0700 Received: from apollo.albany.net (apollo.albany.net [206.72.192.19]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id TAA31648 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:03:38 -0700 Received: (qmail 6023 invoked from network); 13 Oct 1999 22:03:37 -0400 Received: from monitor.albany.net (HELO monitor) (maz@206.72.202.135) by apollo.albany.net with SMTP; 13 Oct 1999 22:03:37 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 22:03:37 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matthew Zahorik To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine/Pico keystroke lag problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: maz@draco X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello All, I'm hoping one of you have stumbled on this one before and have a fix - I searched the archives, but this problem is a difficult one to search for. I compiled Pine/Pico on a Debian Linux box (stable, 2.1) running on Alpha hardware. (466MHz EV6) When you start pico or pine, the results of your keystrokes are lagged by 3 or 4 keystrokes. For example, I start pico and type "Hello". Only "He" is displayed. Then I type a "." - the "l" finally appears. I hit Control-X, the next "l" appears. I type "N", the "o" appears. I type "n" to answer the 'save changes' prompt I know is there, and the "." appears after "Hello" appears. I then have to hit enter three more times, at which point pico finally exits, and the three returns are processed by my shell. There's something strange going on. Pine/Pico is the only thing affected on the system. I've tried different term types, different shells. It's not Debian specific - a Debian 2.1 Intel box compiles both programs and they function normally. Any clues where to start looking? Since it's processor specific, I assume there's a bad data size assumption in the code, but I prefer a clue about where to start looking. Thanks! - Matt -- Matthew Zahorik Director of Systems and Networking - BiznessOnline.com matt@thebiz.net President of AlbanyNet Inc. - a BiznessOnline subsidiary maz@albany.net Voice: (518) 292-1001 Fax: (518) 626-0793 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA13352 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA28021; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:30:41 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id IAA04753; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:29:49 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA37464 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:24:34 -0700 Received: from law.usc.edu (law.usc.edu [128.125.42.6]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA08216 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:24:33 -0700 Received: from l2122.usc.edu (l2122 [128.125.42.67]) by law.usc.edu (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07453 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:24:25 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Robert Larmon To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: global_addressbook MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: rlarmon@faculty-law.usc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi all, I'm trying to get the global_addressbook working, and I get farther with PC-Pine 4.20 then I have before. I am able to set up a global_addressbook on my Sun box (where my account info is) and PC-Pine will read it. However, I am unsure of how I should update the addrbook. Should I do it through Pine, using a personal addressbook and adding the entry? I tried doing it the old manual way (vi), but PC-Pine fails to re-read the global_addressbook until I delete the .aba22827 and .aba22827.lu files and restart PC-Pine. Help! Thanks, Robert ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ` Robert Larmon ` ` PC Systems Analyst ` ` USC Law School Computing Services ` ` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA17728 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:57:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA32669; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:57:17 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id KAA03698; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:56:30 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA24464 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:47:15 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA16145 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:47:15 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA32373 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:47:11 -0700 Received: from localhost (mbmiller@localhost) by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA08015 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:46:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:46:59 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: best place to send bug reports? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Where is the best place to send bug reports? Should I be sending them to this list? Mike -- Michael B. Miller University of Missouri--Columbia http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:41:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA20135 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA17984; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:41:17 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA01171; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:40:30 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA30050 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:37:24 -0700 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (root@euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA23564 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:37:24 -0700 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (chappa@goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.2]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA31974; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:37:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:37:22 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Eduardo Chappa L." To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: best place to send bug reports? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Miller X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Mike Miller (mbmiller@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu) wrote on Oct 14, 1999: :) Where is the best place to send bug reports? Should I be sending them to :) this list? :) According to my configuration file it says: pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu But I am also willing to know them, I guess it does not make a big difference if you post them here too :) Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:59:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA24634 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA23651; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:59:53 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA28509; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:58:04 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA36292 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:54:43 -0700 Received: from living-source.com (blackice.living-source.com [195.52.135.33]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id PAA27618 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:54:37 -0700 Received: (qmail 2334 invoked from network); 14 Oct 1999 22:54:33 -0000 Received: from ares.living-source.com (195.52.133.21) by blackice.living-source.com with SMTP; 14 Oct 1999 22:54:33 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 00:52:49 +0200 ((MEZ) - Mitteleurop. Sommerzeit) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Adi Sieker To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: [bug] FROMTO ?? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Info X-X-Sender: adi@mail.living-source.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, first of pine4.20 is great. :)) Highlighting and all. Now the Problem :)) I had FROMTO in the index-list, after the update to 4.20, the column disappeared. Regards Adi -- ./e2fsck: Illegal triply indirect block found while reading bad blocks inode. This doesn't bode well, but we'll try to go on... ~ adi@living-source.com tel:+761 / 15 25 8-13 http://www.living-source.com fax:+761 / 15 25 8-50 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:34:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA25467; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA24656; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:34:23 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id QAA22011; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:33:44 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA44942 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:29:46 -0700 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (root@euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA00771 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:29:46 -0700 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (chappa@goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.2]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16655; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Eduardo Chappa L." To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: [bug] FROMTO ?? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Adi Sieker X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Adi Sieker (adi@living-source.com) wrote on Oct 15, 1999: :) Hi, :) :) first of pine4.20 is great. :)) Highlighting and all. :) :) Now the Problem :)) I had FROMTO in the index-list, after the update :) to 4.20, the column disappeared. :) FROMTO does not exist as a token, usually when pine can not recognize a token it ignores it (so there you have the dissapeared column), but in your case it probably occurs that in pine4.10 (or earlier versions yet?) what comes after the from is tried to be interpreted as a number or a percentage (like 33% or 15). I do not know if pine had a minimum default for showing the from field once you asked for it, but this seems to be what is happening. Maybe a good solution in the same lines as what you had before would be to replace FROMTO by FROM(2) or even FROMORTO(2). Have a nice day, Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:15:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id SAA27176; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id SAA26790; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:15:34 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id SAA26980; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:13:06 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA33132 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:10:22 -0700 Received: from mailgw0.hal.com (mailgw0.hal.com [192.88.244.55]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id SAA31467 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:10:21 -0700 Received: from pedex.hal.com (pedex.hal.com [148.57.5.123]) by mailgw0.hal.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25597 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dogstar.ssd.hal.com (dogstar.ssd.hal.com [148.57.80.184]) by pedex.hal.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA04944 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (vibhu@localhost) by dogstar.ssd.hal.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA02080 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Vibhu AV To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: color in pine 4.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: dogstar.ssd.hal.com: vibhu owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I tried to set the color in pine 4.20, but could not. I am running pine in xterm on my solaris 2.7 machine. As per the help, I tried the escape sequence: ESC [ 3 m but it would not take it. For example, I came up to setup color menu for the reverse color, but could not go beyond this: Reverse Color = Foreground Background --------------------------- Sample ( ) < > ( ) < > (*) < > ( ) < > ( ) < > ( ) < > ( ) < > ( ) < > ( ) < > ( ) < > ( ) < > ( ) < > ( ) < > (*) < > ( ) < > ( ) < > [ ] Default (terminal's standout mode, usually reverse video) Any help would be appreciated. -- Vibhu Veerabadrappa HaL Computer Systems mailto:vibhu@fjst.com 1315, Dell Ave., Campbell, CA 95008 Ph: 408-341-5673 http://www.hal.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- This mail was sent on Oct 14 at 6:05pm. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 23:31:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id XAA30612; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 23:31:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id XAA32251; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 23:31:17 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id XAA23964; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 23:30:40 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA56894 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 23:27:39 -0700 Received: from josef.ifi.unizh.ch (josef.ifi.unizh.ch [130.60.48.10]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id XAA06864 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 23:27:38 -0700 Received: from ifi.unizh.ch by josef.ifi.unizh.ch with SMTP (PP) id <28476-0@josef.ifi.unizh.ch>; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 07:27:35 +0100 Received: from localhost by manhattan via ESMTP (8.9.1b+Sun/JAN94.IFI.UNIZH.CH) for id IAA00647; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:27:34 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:27:25 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Denis N. Antonioli" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: color in pine 4.20[A In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, Vibhu AV wrote: > > I tried to set the color in pine 4.20, but could not. I am > running pine in xterm on my solaris 2.7 machine. > Hi, Solaris is distributed with an old xterm that is *not* capable of displaying colors. You'll have to use cde's dtterm or install another terminal. I go with rxvt , but there are other terminal emulators, . Greetings, dna - -- Why does a dog wag its tail? Because a dog is smarter than its tail. If the tail were smarter, the tail would wag the dog. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAwUBOAbJVH7lXFr6ofWlAQFz+wP9EXdV6RcV2T6lvPaBCwpdIgCn9gEZXUwt pte6RUQnGdf4EIJJwjOg2JgkDi9WbB4jlsyorUXZQ7d7WKfpBsfqxIzub8dYBix5 tc9Pp+pSIhNhDvBC3FcKGRARsfbw1bO7S5mFalmxTF08+QFVw2JJqXKJsxXVTLef lwOPVs19atU= =QZG3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA16500; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:14:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA18263; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:14:10 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id OAA04309; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:13:01 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA25154 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:08:31 -0700 Received: from mailgw0.hal.com (mailgw0.hal.com [192.88.244.55]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA10590 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:08:30 -0700 Received: from pedex.hal.com (pedex.hal.com [148.57.5.123]) by mailgw0.hal.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08463 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dogstar.ssd.hal.com (dogstar.ssd.hal.com [148.57.80.184]) by pedex.hal.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15082 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:10:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (vibhu@localhost) by dogstar.ssd.hal.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06896 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Vibhu AV To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine's color feature MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: dogstar.ssd.hal.com: vibhu owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I am now using color-xterm so that I can use the color features of pine 4.20. But, I have noticed that the redraw of the background of the xterm is not done nicely. This is quite annoying especially when the xterm's bg is not white. When I scroll up and down a message, for example, the xterm's original background's color is used in areas where there is no text, and for the areas where there is text, the background color that I specified in pine will be used (which, for normal text is white). This results in a dirty looking step shaped right hand side on the screen. This becomes clean when I do "^L". Has anyone noticed this? Looks like a bug to me. -- Vibhu Veerabadrappa HaL Computer Systems mailto:vibhu@fjst.com 1315, Dell Ave., Campbell, CA 95008 Ph: 408-341-5673 http://www.hal.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- This mail was sent on Oct 15 at 1:50pm. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 12:48:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA02862; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 12:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA25621; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 12:48:21 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA28729; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 12:46:46 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA19556 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 12:42:33 -0700 Received: from shell.gameaholic.com (root@shell.gameaholic.com [209.207.168.114]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA09636 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 12:42:32 -0700 Received: from localhost (deicide@localhost) by shell.gameaholic.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA10503 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 15:43:36 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 15:43:36 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Vitaliy To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Saving deleted messages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello.. Great job on 3.20! I searched through mailing list archives, and noticed that this has been requested before. What I want is ability to automatically save messages that are being deleted to a separate folder. Basically, "Delete" would become "Save to Trash Folder, Mark Deleted". This would let us easily keep a backup of all old emails without doing extra work of saving things. It would also be consistent with how some other email applications operate (Netscape Mail for example), which allow you to move deleted messages to a Trash folder. --Vitaliy -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 12:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA02893; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 12:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA25677; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 12:53:47 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA28827; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 12:53:21 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA50286 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 12:49:45 -0700 Received: from gateway.villasenor.org ([209.124.88.194]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA10060 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 12:49:43 -0700 Received: from gateway.villasenor.org (gateway.villasenor.org [209.124.88.194]) by gateway.villasenor.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA00237 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 15:52:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 15:52:16 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Tony Villasenor To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PICO question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I recently installed PINE on a new FreeBSD 3.3 system and used the PICO command "-t". However, now I would like to change that because I want PICO to prompt for save on exit and allow me to rename the buffer at "Write Out". How can I undo the "-t" option? Many thanks, Tony -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 15:39:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA04350; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 15:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA09773; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 15:39:15 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA04047; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 15:38:08 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA40840 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 15:34:13 -0700 Received: from ns1.cdc.com (ns1.cdc.com [150.143.16.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA19224 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 15:34:09 -0700 Received: from [129.179.17.10] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 17:34:04 -0500 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com with ESMTP; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 06:34:00 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 06:34:00 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Edward M Greshko To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Saving deleted messages In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Vitaliy X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 16 Oct 1999, Vitaliy wrote: > Great job on 3.20! That's a rather old version.... :-) > I searched through mailing list archives, and noticed that this has been > requested before. What I want is ability to automatically save messages > that are being deleted to a separate folder. Basically, "Delete" would > become "Save to Trash Folder, Mark Deleted". You can accomplish this today. Make your default saved message folder "Trash". When you "save" a message it will be marked for deletion and moved to "Trash". You can then clean up your trash as you see fit. > This would let us easily keep a backup of all old emails without doing > extra work of saving things. It would also be consistent with how > some other email applications operate (Netscape Mail for example), which > allow you to move deleted messages to a Trash folder. If you want consistency with other email applications then why not use the other email applications? :-) :-) You didn't ask for it....but I give you my opinion. I've never been a big fan of the way other email clients handle this sort of thing. They move things to a trash folder and you end up spending just as much time later sorting through the trash to decide again to finally get rid of your mail. Sure, some clients allow you to set a limit on how long stays in the trash but a great percentage of the time a mail sits there for the limit and gets expired. So why waste the storage? I like this feature just the way it is. When I throw out my trash I really do want to get rid of it. I don't want it hanging around an extra 3 days in the garage. :-) Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 16:09:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA04625; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 16:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA10175; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 16:09:54 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id QAA24309; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 16:08:49 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA40552 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 16:05:25 -0700 Received: from shell.gameaholic.com (root@shell.gameaholic.com [209.207.168.114]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA03448 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 16:05:24 -0700 Received: from localhost (deicide@localhost) by shell.gameaholic.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA03011; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 19:06:28 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 19:06:28 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Vitaliy To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Saving deleted messages In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Edward M Greshko X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, Edward M Greshko wrote: > > Great job on 3.20! > That's a rather old version.... :-) Ack :) I'm sure everyone knows I meant 4.20 :) > If you want consistency with other email applications then why not use the > other email applications? :-) :-) I can type faster than I can click.. I can access my telnet account from anywhere.. I *extemely* like Pine, especially 4.20 :) > mail. Sure, some clients allow you to set a limit on how long stays in > the trash but a great percentage of the time a mail sits there for the > limit and gets expired. So why waste the storage? I would just like to have this so I can handle accidental deletions and to possibly find some ancient emails that I didn't care to save months later. I would probably never go through Trash unless I was looking for something missing. Basically, a backup folder. What I do once in a blue moon is sort my Trash folder by sender/recipient, delete all obvious spams, cron mails and other useless stuff, and gzip the rest. As I think about it - this could easily be done by just putting a second copy of EVERY incoming message in a separate folder. It'd pretty much have the same effect, and be pretty easy to do using procmail (or 4.20's filters!). However, that'd be a "hack", and a feature like that seems logical and not too complicated to add. How about "Delete" and "Kill" functions? Delete would moved a message to Trash and mark as deleted, "Kill" would do what Delete is currently doing. As for your suggestion - I want to press just one key to delete :) Especially when I'm in folder index and see a dozen spams in a row - press+hold D and you've got them all. --Vitaliy. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 18:51:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id SAA06195; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 18:51:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id SAA12376; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 18:51:57 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id SAA26542; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 18:51:26 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA36718 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 18:47:41 -0700 Received: from phoenix.math.spbu.ru (root@phoenix.math.spbu.ru [195.19.230.5]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id SAA29164 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 18:47:40 -0700 Received: from localhost (vps@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phoenix.math.spbu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA12301 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 05:47:38 +0400 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 05:47:38 +0400 (MSD) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Pawel S. Veselov" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: index menu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine-info mailing list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello ! Got 4.20 pine installed. Cool thing, but I've found one annoying problem. Somewhy, I have index bar is not actually a bar but a pointer on the left side of message index. And index is not colored. The key menu and title are colored and colors are taken from termdef and are not forced. Everything is OK, when I use native terminal entry (xtermc), but everything goes bad under screen terminal. So, the actual question is how does pine determine when draw bar or index ? Thanx in advance. Bye. -- With best of best regards, Pawel S. Veselov (aka Black Angel) Web page : http://i.am/BlackAngel | ICQ UIN : 5252265 Internet e-mail : blackangel@i.am -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 01:57:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id BAA11275; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 01:57:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id BAA03348; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 01:57:35 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id BAA02879; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 01:57:02 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA18530 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 01:53:28 -0700 Received: from smtp03.primenet.com (smtp03.primenet.com [206.165.6.133]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id BAA19246 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 01:53:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp03.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA00821; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 01:53:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr06.primenet.com(206.165.6.206) via SMTP by smtp03.primenet.com, id smtpdAAAcaa4Lb; Sun Oct 17 01:53:18 1999 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 04:53:23 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Catherine Thomas To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Saving deleted messages In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Vitaliy X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I find this request puzzling. First, of course, most of us don't want to backup all of our deleted messages. they are being deleted because we want them to be. If you wish to backup all your messages I suggest the following. Set your configuration so that when s and enter are pressed pine moves automatically to the next message. In this way, you can save any message you want by pressing s followed by enter and only press delete d when you mean delete. Hope this helps. Also, you can create other folders titled by subject so that if you want to save a message to a specific folder say mywork you would type s (no space) mywork and hit enter. The message would be file in the mywork folder and pine (if you set it right) will move on to the next message. To create these extra folders, just type s and the folder name you want to use. Pine will reply that that folder does not exist Create? and just type y and there it is with its first message already saved inside. Hope this helps. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 08:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA19047; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 08:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA09054; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 08:47:48 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id IAA14269; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 08:47:14 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA16794 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 08:42:37 -0700 Received: from mail3.new-york.net (root@mail3.new-york.net [165.254.2.58]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA32546 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 08:42:36 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com (aleph.ii.com [165.254.18.8]) by mail3.new-york.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/NYNET-2.2-NORELAY) with ESMTP id LAA23604; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 11:42:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 11:42:42 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy this-address-is-valid McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: SSL and other security in PC-Pine? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Technical Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: nm@operamail.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The PC-Pine 4.20 Help > About box says: PC-Pine for Windows Version 4.20 with SSL It's very cool that PC-Pine supports SSL but I haven't been able to find documentation about how to set this up. Do I need to use something like {imap.server/ssl} when specifying a server? What exactly can PC-Pine+SSL do -- can it encrypt messages, headers, and passwords between my desktop and the server? Also, what other kind of security does PC-Pine support -- ssh? kerberos? Any idea when we will get to use PGP or S/MIME to encrypt our messages with PC-Pine? Thanks! -- ©Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink For Pine info, see http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 12:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA20836; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 12:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA11865; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 12:01:37 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA12071; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 12:00:34 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA51128 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 11:56:03 -0700 Received: from mail3.new-york.net (root@mail3.new-york.net [165.254.2.58]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA25903 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 11:56:02 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com (aleph.ii.com [165.254.18.8]) by mail3.new-york.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/NYNET-2.2-NORELAY) with ESMTP id OAA18372; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 14:55:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 14:56:12 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy this-address-is-valid McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: SSL and other security in PC-Pine? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: nm@operamail.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 99-10-17 I wrote: NtM> It's very cool that PC-Pine supports SSL but I haven't been able NtM> to find documentation about how to set this up. Do I need to use NtM> something like {imap.server/ssl} when specifying a server? I finally found the Help on this and it seems that you can use {imap.server/user=login/SSL} or... {imap.server/user=login/secure} or both at once... {imap.server/user=login/SSL/secure} Unfortunately my IMAP server supports neither the SSL nor the secure flags. For the first I get an error msg about port 993 and for the second I get a msg that says "can't do secure authentication with this server." What exactly should I ask my ISP for to get both of these working? I'm still curious about the following Q's: NtM> What exactly can PC-Pine+SSL do -- can it encrypt messages, headers, NtM> and passwords between my desktop and the server? NtM> NtM> Also, what other kind of security does PC-Pine support -- ssh? NtM> kerberos? Any idea when we will get to use PGP or S/MIME to NtM> encrypt our messages with PC-Pine? Thanks again, -- ©Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink For Pine info, see http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA10608; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA02844; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:25:11 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id KAA19005; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:24:22 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA11006 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:15:29 -0700 Received: from noella.mindsec.com (IDENT:frantic@noella.mindsec.com [209.172.192.12]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA16282 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:15:27 -0700 Received: from localhost (IDENT:simple@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by noella.mindsec.com (8.9.3/8.9.3a) with ESMTP id LAA01652 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:15:17 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:15:17 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Erik Parker To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Still marked as New. (4.20) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've run into some random, and very painful problems with 4.20 on slackware linux.. Random message will be marked as new even after being read. Specifically, Bugtraq, where I show the past 15 messages new, no matter how many times i read them. (heh) also i nthe main inbox, sometime just random messages will be marked as new. I don't see anything different about them. Any more info needed, let me know, and I will provide. Erik Parker eparker@mindsec.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:35:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA14328; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA21709; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:35:40 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA19476; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:34:26 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA54212 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:30:36 -0700 Received: from dogpound.vnet.net (bigdog@dogpound.vnet.net [166.82.145.176]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA07638 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:30:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (bigdog@localhost) by dogpound.vnet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA24234; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:30:39 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:30:39 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Davis To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Still marked as New. (4.20) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Erik Parker X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Erik Parker wrote: > the past 15 messages new, no matter how many times i read them. (heh) This bug i've encountered in 4.20 as well. And have been able to figger out how to reproduce it. (on my system at least). Open up a folder with new messages. Read the message. Don't do anything to the folder. Close pine and go back to the folder with the STILL new messages even after being read. BUT if you goto the folder, read the messages, delete a message. Then close pine and go back to the folder and they're marked as read. For this reason I had to go back to my pine4.10 bin. It works fine there. Looking at the changelog the only thing I can see that would have broke this is this.. * Sizable performance improvement in Unix format mail handling --- Matt Davis - ICQ# 934680 http://dogpound.vnet.net/~bigdog/ "When I have been asked who caused the riots and the killing in L.A., my answer has been direct and simple: Who is to blame for the riots? The rioters are to blame. Who is to blame for the killings? The killers are to blame. -- Al Gore From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:12:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id NAA15092; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id NAA08095; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:12:23 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id NAA27695; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:09:44 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA39116 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:06:27 -0700 Received: from viruswall.tc.fluke.com (viruswall.tc.fluke.com [206.138.179.196]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id NAA23464 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:06:27 -0700 Received: from 129.196.184.7 by viruswall.tc.fluke.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:10:30 -0800 Received: from dd.tc.fluke.com (root@dd.tc.fluke.com [129.196.148.100]) by mailhub.tc.fluke.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA04453; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:06:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dcd@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dd.tc.fluke.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA01556; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:06:29 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:06:29 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: David Dyck To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Still marked as New. (4.20) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Matt Davis X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I searched the internet for this 'interesting' quote and found it on many pages, and while Rush attributed it to Gore, there are early pages that attribute it to Quayle I used http://google.com to get search http://www.google.com/search?q=who+caused+the+riots+and+the+killing&site=search&start=10&sa=N and read the cached copy from http://snopes.simplenet.com/quotes/quayle.htm Now to make up for the fact that so far my post didn't have anything to do with pine I'll add that searching for pine mail info on google http://www.google.com/search?q=pine+mail+info&num=10&sa=Google+Search gives the number 1 result as http://www.washington.edu/pine/ On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Matt Davis wrote: > --- > Matt Davis - ICQ# 934680 > http://dogpound.vnet.net/~bigdog/ > > "When I have been asked who caused the riots and the killing in L.A., > my answer has been direct and simple: Who is to blame for the riots? The > rioters are to blame. Who is to blame for the killings? The killers are > to blame. -- Al Gore From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:17:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id NAA15287; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id NAA22918; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:17:16 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id NAA21743; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:16:13 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA49858 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:13:38 -0700 Received: from mm02snlnto.sandia.gov (sentry.sandia.gov [132.175.109.21]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id NAA24751 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:13:37 -0700 Received: from 132.175.109.1 by mm02snlnto.sandia.gov with ESMTP ( WorldSecure Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v3.6); Mon, 18 Oct 99 14:13:35 -0600 Received: from sasg829.sandia.gov (sasg829.sandia.gov [134.253.226.190]) by sass165.sandia.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16552; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:13:35 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:13:17 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Daniel Sands" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: month_num function Y2K compliant? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Leslie Dreyer Kalra" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Server-Uuid: 7edb479a-fd89-11d2-9a77-0090273cd58c X-WSS-ID: 1415A0E5202361-01-01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > It looks to me like the month_num() function in pine/strings.c may not be > Y2K compliant. This function returns the month number of the month in the > string argument. This month number appears to include the year, making it > months since the millennium, unless I'm reading it wrong. Here's the line > that worries me (line 652): > > month = (year < 100 ? year + 1900 : year) * 12 + i; > > This appears to correct for 2-digit years by adding 1900, which will be > incorrect next year. No, it appears to me that they are compensating for the possibility of only being given a 2-digit year. Notice that if year>=100 (say, 2014), it keeps year as is. But if they are only given a 2-digit year, they assume that it is 19xx. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA16760; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA24628; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:03:36 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id OAA03719; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:02:44 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA39006 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:58:26 -0700 Received: from noella.mindsec.com (IDENT:frantic@noella.mindsec.com [209.172.192.12]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id NAA25430 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:58:25 -0700 Received: from localhost (IDENT:simple@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by noella.mindsec.com (8.9.3/8.9.3a) with ESMTP id OAA02994; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:58:21 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:58:21 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Erik Parker To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Still marked as New. (4.20) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Matt Davis X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ah yes.. I see it this way too. However, on one.. THe roxen mailing list, I read the last 5 messages.. quit, came back in, and the last 3 were marked as read. Then went back about 20 messages, read a few, quit and came back, they were all still unread. Also, you can REPLY to the email, and it will still be marked as new. So I'm not sure exactly what it is doing. If anyone at washington.edu can't replicate this, I can give you a temp account to check it out on. It's a bit of a pain to delete list mail, when you want to save it all for archiving :) On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Matt Davis wrote: > On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Erik Parker wrote: > > > the past 15 messages new, no matter how many times i read them. (heh) > > This bug i've encountered in 4.20 as well. And have been able to figger > out how to reproduce it. (on my system at least). > > Open up a folder with new messages. Read the message. Don't do anything > to the folder. Close pine and go back to the folder with the STILL new > messages even after being read. > > BUT if you goto the folder, read the messages, delete a message. Then > close pine and go back to the folder and they're marked as read. > > For this reason I had to go back to my pine4.10 bin. It works fine there. > > Looking at the changelog the only thing I can see that would have broke > this is this.. > > * Sizable performance improvement in Unix format mail handling > > --- > Matt Davis - ICQ# 934680 > http://dogpound.vnet.net/~bigdog/ > > "When I have been asked who caused the riots and the killing in L.A., my answer has been direct and simple: Who is to blame for the riots? The rioters are to blame. Who is to blame for the killings? The killers are to blame. -- Al Gore > Erik Parker eparker@mindsec.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA19370; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:39:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA13701; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:39:23 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA29364; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:38:40 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA25836 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:35:13 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA20048 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:35:13 -0700 Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (root@jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA13595 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:35:13 -0700 Received: from dante38.u.washington.edu (leibrand@dante38.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.198]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA29888 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:35:12 -0700 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by dante38.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA62872 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:35:12 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: goto-default-rule bug (or design flaw) (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Info Mailing List X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thought I'd share this with the rest of you... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:30:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Development Team Cc: pine-bugs@cac Subject: goto-default-rule bug (or design flaw) I like the new features in Pine 4.20. There are a couple things that didn't get fixed, though, that I'd like to draw your attention to. - I have Incoming-Folders and several collections set up. All my incoming mail goes to Incoming-Folders, so that's where I want the goto command to default to. However, the option that should do this doesn't: inbox-or-folder-in-first-collection If the current folder is "Inbox", Pine will offer the most recently visited folder in the default collection found in the "Collection List" screen. If the current folder is other than "Inbox", "Inbox" is offered as the default. Instead of Incoming-Folders, it defines the "first collection" (or "default collection") as my leibrand.deskmail.washington.edu collection. Since my Inbox and all my incoming messages are in Incoming-Folders, that means I can't (G)oto a folder with new messages by default. Instead, I have to set the goto-default-rule as inbox-or-folder-in-recent-collection and then make excessive use of ^P and ^N when I want to goto a folder. Since Pine 4.20 just came out, I'm sure it will be awhile before your next scheduled release. So is there any way to fix this behavior on my copy of Pine short of waiting for 4.21 or 4.30? - What happened to ^P and ^N in the Roles Selection screen? Now it's a two-step process to choose an alternate role, where before it was only one. This isn't really worth changing in my case, though, because the only two roles I compose with are my default and first ones. - Why didn't you implement the suggestion (on comp.mail.pine or pine-info) of using ^Y and ^V to select the first and last collections in the Goto and Save windows? And while you're at it, use that for Roles selection, as well. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:10:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA20296; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA14858; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:10:49 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id QAA17299; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:09:58 -0700 Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (root@jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA15360 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:06:58 -0700 Received: from dante38.u.washington.edu (leibrand@dante38.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.198]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA34336 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:06:57 -0700 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by dante38.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA27498 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:06:56 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: SSL and other security in PC-Pine? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, Nancy this-address-is-valid McGough wrote: > On 99-10-17 I wrote: >=20 > I'm still curious about the following Q's: >=20 > NtM> What exactly can PC-Pine+SSL do -- can it encrypt messages, headers, > NtM> and passwords between my desktop and the server? Yes. If your IMAP server supports SSL connections on port 993, that is. > Thanks again, >=20 > --=20 > =A9Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink > For Pine info, see http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ --=20 Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA21615; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:55:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA16444; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:55:33 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id QAA19714; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:54:47 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA30942 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:50:23 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA25232 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:50:23 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA30447 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:50:22 -0700 Received: from localhost (mbmiller@localhost) by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA02391 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:50:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:50:04 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Still marked as New. (4.20) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The new-flag bug has been repaired, but you have to download the new source and compile it (as of now). Jeff Franklin of the pine team wrote to tell me this... -------------------------------------------------------------------------- It turns out that it was a bug in imap. The latest version of that (with the fix) can be found at: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/imap/imap-4.7.BETA.tar.Z -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pine uses code in the imap directory. So you have to have the pine source (which includes an imap directory), then download the new imap source, untar, etc., and replace the imap directory in the pine source with the new imap directory (e.g., rm pine/imap; mv imap-4.7.BETA pine/imap), then compile pine (build xxx). I did this on Solaris 2.6 and it worked. Another guy who helped me out with this (named Brian Stark) compiled under AIX and it also worked for him. I assume the pine team will be telling you all about this soon. Regards, Mike -- Michael B. Miller University of Missouri--Columbia http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id RAA21757; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:00:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id RAA30740; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:00:43 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id QAA03700; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:59:53 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA09774 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:56:28 -0700 Received: from corellia.edlund.org (g121.ryd.student.liu.se [130.236.238.121]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA27280; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:56:27 -0700 Received: by corellia.edlund.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id E8DEB4F82F; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 01:56:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corellia.edlund.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6FB34F82C; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 01:56:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 01:56:24 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Henrik Edlund To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: SSL and other security in PC-Pine? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-To: Scott Leibrand X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Do the UNIX version support SSL as well? On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Scott Leibrand wrote: > On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, Nancy this-address-is-valid McGough wrote: > > > On 99-10-17 I wrote: > > > > I'm still curious about the following Q's: > > > > NtM> What exactly can PC-Pine+SSL do -- can it encrypt messages, headers, > > NtM> and passwords between my desktop and the server? > > Yes. If your IMAP server supports SSL connections on port 993, that is. > > > Thanks again, > > > > -- > > ©Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink > > For Pine info, see http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ > > -- Henrik Edlund http://www.edlund.org/ "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Naturally they became heroes." Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:50:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id SAA23018; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:50:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id SAA18714; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:50:55 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id SAA08122; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:49:52 -0700 Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (root@jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA22090 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:47:06 -0700 Received: from dante40.u.washington.edu (leibrand@dante40.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.200]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA20448; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:47:05 -0700 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by dante40.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA22682; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:47:05 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:47:05 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: SSL and other security in PC-Pine? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: Henrik Edlund X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN No, but the Unix version supports SSH, with one simple tweak to the =2Epinerc (of course, customize the paths as needed): # Sets the name of the command used to open a UNIX remote shell connection. # The default is tyically /usr/ucb/rsh. rsh-path=3D/usr/local/bin/ssh #rsh-path=3D # Sets the format of the command used to open a UNIX remote # shell connection. The default is "%s %s -l %s exec /etc/r%sd" # NOTE: the 4 (four) "%s" entries MUST exist in the provided command # where the first is for the command's path, the second is for the # host to connnect to, the third is for the user to connect as, and the # fourth is for the connection method (typically "imap") rsh-command=3D%s %s -q -l %s exec /etc/r%sd #rsh-command=3D If you only do that, Pine will behave as it always has except that it will now encrypt everything it transmits (assuming it successfully gets an SSH connection). While you're at it, though, you might want to set up passwordless access using SSH keys. To do so you'll need to have the SSH daemon running on your mail server, and you'll need write access to your ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file. Log on to the machine your run Pine on. Run ssh-keygen and create a public-private key pair. Transfer the PUBLIC KEY ONLY to the mail server, and put it in your ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file on its own line. If you use Pico to edit the file, be sure to use the don't-word-wrap option (-w), since the line will be really long. :) --=20 Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Henrik Edlund wrote: > Do the UNIX version support SSL as well? >=20 > On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Scott Leibrand wrote: >=20 > > On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, Nancy this-address-is-valid McGough wrote: > >=20 > > > On 99-10-17 I wrote: > > >=20 > > > I'm still curious about the following Q's: > > >=20 > > > NtM> What exactly can PC-Pine+SSL do -- can it encrypt messages, head= ers, > > > NtM> and passwords between my desktop and the server? > >=20 > > Yes. If your IMAP server supports SSL connections on port 993, that is= =2E > >=20 > > > Thanks again, > > >=20 > > > --=20 > > > =A9Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink > > > For Pine info, see http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ > >=20 > >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Henrik Edlund > http://www.edlund.org/ >=20 > "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. > Naturally they became heroes." > Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator >=20 >=20 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id TAA23215; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:06:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id TAA18995; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:06:23 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id TAA08695; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:05:39 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA15444 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:02:45 -0700 Received: from desi.techiesinc.com (desi.techiesinc.com [206.245.137.117]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id TAA02232 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:02:44 -0700 Received: from ethel (lbd@ethel.techiesinc.com [206.245.137.116]) by desi.techiesinc.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA13649; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:51:39 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:11:52 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Leslie Dreyer Kalra To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: month_num function Y2K compliant? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Daniel Sands X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Daniel Sands wrote: >_ >_ >_> >_> month = (year < 100 ? year + 1900 : year) * 12 + i; >_> >_> This appears to correct for 2-digit years by adding 1900, which will be >_> incorrect next year. >_ >_No, it appears to me that they are compensating for the possibility of only >_being given a 2-digit year. Notice that if year>=100 (say, 2014), it keeps >_year as is. But if they are only given a 2-digit year, they assume that it is >_19xx. >_ Right. That's why it will fail after 2000. In 2001, you generally don't want the 2-digit year 01 to be interpreted as 1901. We can't assume that Joe User will forsake the 2-digit year in the 21st century. Anyway, I got e-mail from someone at UW saying that this will be fixed in Pine 4.21. I don't know if he copied it to the list. I guess not. leslie -- Leslie Dreyer Kalra Techies, Inc. Computing and Internet lbd@techiesinc.com Consultant From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:40:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id UAA24364; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:40:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id UAA01986; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:40:52 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id UAA21001; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:40:00 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA54622 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:37:18 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id UAA21224 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:37:18 -0700 Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (root@jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id UAA01915 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:37:18 -0700 Received: from dante22.u.washington.edu (leibrand@dante22.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.72]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA24838 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:37:17 -0700 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by dante22.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA61766 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:37:17 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:37:16 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: goto-default-rule bug (or design flaw) (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Info Mailing List X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:33:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Development Team Cc: pine-bugs@cac Subject: Re: goto-default-rule bug (or design flaw) Hmm... It looks like I spoke too soon about the Roles-selection screen. When I replied to a message in 4.10 that didn't match any of my roles, I got this: Reply using role "Default Role" ? ? Help Y [Yes] ^P Prev Role ^C Cancel N No ^N Next Role As compared to this when it did match a role: Reply using role "To: sleib" ? ? Help Y [Yes] ^P Prev Role ^C Cancel N No ^N Next Role Which was good, because I could press Y to reply, N to cancel, or ^P and ^N to select the proper role. Now, when I reply to a message in 4.20 that doesn't match any of my roles, I get this: Use role "To: sleib" for Reply? ? Help Y [Yes] ^T To Select Alternate Role ^C Cancel N No Role As opposed to this when it does match: Use role "To: sleib" for Reply? ? Help Y [Yes] ^T To Select Alternate Role ^C Cancel N No Role Not only is the absense of ^P and ^N annoying, but you can see it changed its behavior from logical to completely illogical. The message didn't match any roles, so it should have asked me if I wanted to compose with the Default Role (or No Role). Instead, the pattern matching of my roles no longer matters, because it does the same thing whether it matches or not! As a workaround, I created ANOTHER role (which I called Default Role) with leibrand@u as the pattern and everything else as the default. This takes care of the illogical behavior when replying, but it forces me to either use the #-then-arrow-keys-then-enter or c-then-^T-then-arrow-keys-then-enter routes. No longer will a c-then-y or c-then-^N-then-y suffice. :( Hope you can fix these bugs soon and get out a 4.21 release so we can install it on the UA machines. Keep up the good work, -- Scott Leibrand Training Technical Support Lead Computing & Communications sleib@cac.washington.edu On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Scott Leibrand wrote: > I like the new features in Pine 4.20. There are a couple things that > didn't get fixed, though, that I'd like to draw your attention to. > > - I have Incoming-Folders and several collections set up. All my incoming > mail goes to Incoming-Folders, so that's where I want the goto command to > default to. However, the option that should do this doesn't: > > inbox-or-folder-in-first-collection > If the current folder is "Inbox", Pine will offer the most recently > visited folder in the default collection found in the "Collection > List" screen. If the current folder is other than "Inbox", "Inbox" > is offered as the default. > > Instead of Incoming-Folders, it defines the "first collection" (or > "default collection") as my leibrand.deskmail.washington.edu > collection. Since my Inbox and all my incoming messages are in > Incoming-Folders, that means I can't (G)oto a folder with new messages by > default. Instead, I have to set the goto-default-rule as > inbox-or-folder-in-recent-collection and then make excessive use of ^P and > ^N when I want to goto a folder. > > Since Pine 4.20 just came out, I'm sure it will be awhile before your next > scheduled release. So is there any way to fix this behavior on my copy of > Pine short of waiting for 4.21 or 4.30? > > - What happened to ^P and ^N in the Roles Selection screen? Now it's > a two-step process to choose an alternate role, where before it was only > one. This isn't really worth changing in my case, though, because the > only two roles I compose with are my default and first ones. > > - Why didn't you implement the suggestion (on comp.mail.pine or pine-info) > of using ^Y and ^V to select the first and last collections in the Goto > and Save windows? And while you're at it, use that for Roles selection, > as well. > > -- > Scott Leibrand > Training Technical Support Lead > Computing & Communications > sleib@cac.washington.edu > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id WAA25771; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id WAA22626; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:54:06 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id WAA21150; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:52:58 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:52:58 -0700 Resent-Message-Id: <199910190552.WAA21150@lists2.u.washington.edu> Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA57490 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:49:26 -0700 Received: from caveman.geac.com.au (caveman.geac.com.au [203.30.73.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id WAA00777 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:49:19 -0700 Received: (qmail 30878 invoked from network); 19 Oct 1999 15:51:00 +1000 Received: from trowel.geac.com.au (203.1.26.189) by caveman.geac.com.au with SMTP; 19 Oct 1999 15:51:00 +1000 Received: (qmail 912 invoked from network); 19 Oct 1999 15:49:13 +1000 Received: from fgh.geac.com.au (202.6.67.163) by trowel.geac.com.au with SMTP; 19 Oct 1999 15:49:13 +1000 Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by fgh.geac.com.au?r with ESMTP id PAA09111 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:46:42 +1000 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:46:22 +1000 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Dave Horsfall To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Postponed messages not showing up Resent-To: Pine Discussion List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-From: Dave Horsfall X-To: Pine Discussion List X-Sender: dave@fgh X-Cursor-Pos: : 524 X-No-Archive: Yes X-Witty-Saying: "Tesseract - Enter at own risk" X-Disclaimer: "Me, speak for us?" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Pine 4.20, self-compiled on Solaris (build gs5). My postponed messages remain in the folder; I am not provided with the offer to continue them. I had one message in there for a while, whilst sending others in the foreground. I sent one large one in the background (many recipients; can background be made the default?) and found I could no longer send in the foreground! The error is "Can't send while background posting. Use postpone." Yeah, well, I'm not background posting; at least, I can't see any sign of them... -- Dave Horsfall VK2KFU dave@geac.com.au Ph: +61 2 9978-7493 Fx: +61 2 9978-7422 Geac Computers P/L (FGH Division) 2/57 Christie St, St Leonards 2065, Australia -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id XAA25945; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id XAA04153; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:04:10 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id XAA00736; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:03:33 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA57508 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:00:23 -0700 Received: from caveman.geac.com.au (caveman.geac.com.au [203.30.73.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id WAA02319 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:59:52 -0700 Received: (qmail 31117 invoked from network); 19 Oct 1999 16:01:19 +1000 Received: from trowel.geac.com.au (203.1.26.189) by caveman.geac.com.au with SMTP; 19 Oct 1999 16:01:19 +1000 Received: (qmail 1247 invoked from network); 19 Oct 1999 15:59:35 +1000 Received: from fgh.geac.com.au (202.6.67.163) by trowel.geac.com.au with SMTP; 19 Oct 1999 15:59:35 +1000 Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by fgh.geac.com.au?r with ESMTP id PAA09178 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:57:21 +1000 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:57:20 +1000 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Dave Horsfall To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Postponed messages not showing up In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: fgh.geac.com.au: dave owned process doing -bs X-Sender: dave@fgh X-No-Archive: Yes X-Witty-Saying: "Tesseract - Enter at own risk" X-Disclaimer: "Me, speak for us?" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Dave Horsfall wrote: > The error is "Can't send while background posting. Use postpone." And the only reason that this got through is because I went to the postponed folder and (B)ounced it.. Stop Press: I just went ^X, and it offered to send this one; weird... -- Dave Horsfall VK2KFU dave@geac.com.au Ph: +61 2 9978-7493 Fx: +61 2 9978-7422 Geac Computers P/L (FGH Division) 2/57 Christie St, St Leonards 2065, Australia From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 06:55:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA02524; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 06:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA11595; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 06:55:31 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id GAA21628; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 06:54:05 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA16824 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 06:51:00 -0700 Received: from gort.office.aol.com (pix-fw.wan.aol.com [152.163.190.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA03996; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 06:50:58 -0700 Received: from DBPETE ([10.2.107.45]) by gort.office.aol.com with ESMTP (8.7.1/8.7.1) id JAA13179; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:50:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:50:52 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Dan Peterson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine Roles selection (was: goto-default-rule bug) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Scott Leibrand X-X-Sender: pete@gort.office.aol.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Scott Leibrand wrote: > [...] > > - What happened to ^P and ^N in the Roles Selection screen? Now it's > a two-step process to choose an alternate role, where before it was only > one. This isn't really worth changing in my case, though, because the > only two roles I compose with are my default and first ones. HERE, HERE!! I discovered the same thing and have been meaning to send a message but just haven't got around to it. Actually, I have a half finish, postponed message just waiting for me. :-) I hope this can get put back in... soon. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:59:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA06011; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA02569; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:59:21 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id JAA15153; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:56:57 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA53710 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:53:25 -0700 Received: from helix.mgh.harvard.edu (helix.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.108.14]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA27082 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:53:24 -0700 Received: from localhost by helix.mgh.harvard.edu (8.8.7/1.1.20.3/31Dec98-1151AM) id MAA0000032604; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:53:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:53:49 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Dennis Gurgul To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: month_num function Y2K compliant? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Leslie Dreyer Kalra X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN HOW THIS CURRENT Y2K THREAD RELATES TO THE FOLLOWING EXCHANGE FROM MARCH? DOES THIS SAME ISSUE EXIST WITH 3.90? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 14:31:46 -0800 (PST) From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Y2K compliance On Mon, 22 Mar 1999, Bill Goulette wrote: > I am running version 3.90 pine for UNIX. Can anyone direct me to the most > recent (closest to Y2K compliant) version available? > Thanks To my knowledge there are no Y2K concerns with any version of Pine. The only use of dates as far as I know is in the Date: field of the message header, and no date that I know of will crash Pine. The problem that may show up (and probably can't be handled at all), is dealing with messages with non compliant (hm, RFC 822 specifies a 2 digit date, has this been updated at some point?) mail readers. But, the problem is that those messages may be placed in the wrong place in the date sorted list... Am I sorely mistaken? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THANKS, DENNIS Dennis J. Gurgul Helix Server Management 617.724.3169 On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Leslie Dreyer Kalra wrote: > On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Daniel Sands wrote: > > >_ > >_ > >_> > >_> month = (year < 100 ? year + 1900 : year) * 12 + i; > >_> > >_> This appears to correct for 2-digit years by adding 1900, which will be > >_> incorrect next year. > >_ > >_No, it appears to me that they are compensating for the possibility of only > >_being given a 2-digit year. Notice that if year>=100 (say, 2014), it keeps > >_year as is. But if they are only given a 2-digit year, they assume that it is > >_19xx. > >_ > > Right. That's why it will fail after 2000. In 2001, you generally don't > want the 2-digit year 01 to be interpreted as 1901. We can't assume that > Joe User will forsake the 2-digit year in the 21st century. > > Anyway, I got e-mail from someone at UW saying that this will be fixed in > Pine 4.21. I don't know if he copied it to the list. I guess not. > > leslie > -- > Leslie Dreyer Kalra > Techies, Inc. Computing and Internet > lbd@techiesinc.com Consultant > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA07614; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA04549; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:59:01 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id KAA19235; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:55:55 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA51662 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:51:45 -0700 Received: from law.usc.edu (law.usc.edu [128.125.42.6]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA10301 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:51:44 -0700 Received: from l2122.usc.edu (l2122 [128.125.42.67]) by law.usc.edu (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25363 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:51:29 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Robert Larmon To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PC-Pine 4.20 sorting bug MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: rlarmon@faculty-law.usc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi all, I think I have found a sorting bug. When you try to sort the index of a folder, (using the $SortIndex) it doesn't sort. I try to sort by date and by size, and the folder index doesn't change. Any ideas? Thanks, Robert ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ` Robert Larmon ` ` PC Systems Analyst ` ` USC Law School Computing Services ` ` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA08554; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA19804; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:37:00 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id LAA14819; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:35:48 -0700 Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (root@jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA31128 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:32:56 -0700 Received: from dante29.u.washington.edu (leibrand@dante29.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.211]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA30486; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:32:54 -0700 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by dante29.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA84190; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:32:53 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine 4.20 sorting bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robert Larmon X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I haven't had (or been able to reproduce) that problem. The only sorting problem I've had is with Ilia Chipitsine's message that was supposedly sent October 20, 2014. For some odd reason it wants to put that message at the bottom when I sort by date. :) Did you get the source or binaries from ftp.cac? What OS are you running? -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Robert Larmon wrote: > > Hi all, > I think I have found a sorting bug. When you try to sort the > index of a folder, (using the $SortIndex) it doesn't sort. I try to sort > by date and by size, and the folder index doesn't change. Any ideas? > > Thanks, > > Robert > > > > ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` > ` Robert Larmon ` > ` PC Systems Analyst ` > ` USC Law School Computing Services ` > ` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` > ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA08748; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:45:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA20004; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:45:09 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id LAA21264; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:43:27 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA13790 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:40:05 -0700 Received: from law.usc.edu (law.usc.edu [128.125.42.6]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA06671; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:40:04 -0700 Received: from l2122.usc.edu (l2122 [128.125.42.67]) by law.usc.edu (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26057; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:45:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:39:49 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Robert Larmon To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine 4.20 sorting bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Scott Leibrand X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: rlarmon@faculty-law.usc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Well, I didn't know you could get the source for PC-Pine 4.20. ;) I'm running Win98, and I could reproduce it on another user's account on their PC. (For the record, we've used PC-Pine 4.10, and found it extremely stable, except with the Diamond Stealth 3d-2000 video card) Pine 4.10 seems to sort fine. Robert On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Scott Leibrand wrote: > I haven't had (or been able to reproduce) that problem. The only sorting > problem I've had is with Ilia Chipitsine's message that was supposedly > sent October 20, 2014. For some odd reason it wants to put that message > at the bottom when I sort by date. :) > > Did you get the source or binaries from ftp.cac? What OS are you running? > > -- > Scott Leibrand > leibrand@u.washington.edu > http://students.washington.edu/leibrand > * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * > * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * > > On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Robert Larmon wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > I think I have found a sorting bug. When you try to sort the > > index of a folder, (using the $SortIndex) it doesn't sort. I try to sort > > by date and by size, and the folder index doesn't change. Any ideas? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Robert > > > > > > > > ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` > > ` Robert Larmon ` > > ` PC Systems Analyst ` > > ` USC Law School Computing Services ` > > ` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` > > ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' > > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ` Robert Larmon ` ` PC Systems Analyst ` ` USC Law School Computing Services ` ` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA09697; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA07223; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:23:12 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA17628; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:17:26 -0700 Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (root@jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA45242 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:12:02 -0700 Received: from dante17.u.washington.edu (leibrand@dante17.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.67]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA07162; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:12:00 -0700 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by dante17.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA29072; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:11:59 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine 4.20 sorting bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robert Larmon X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Sorry. I thought you were talking about Unix Pine. I'm not using PC-Pine, so ignore everything I said. :) -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Robert Larmon wrote: > > Well, I didn't know you could get the source for PC-Pine 4.20. ;) I'm > running Win98, and I could reproduce it on another user's account on their > PC. (For the record, we've used PC-Pine 4.10, and found it extremely > stable, except with the Diamond Stealth 3d-2000 video card) Pine 4.10 > seems to sort fine. > > Robert > > On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Scott Leibrand wrote: > > > I haven't had (or been able to reproduce) that problem. The only sorting > > problem I've had is with Ilia Chipitsine's message that was supposedly > > sent October 20, 2014. For some odd reason it wants to put that message > > at the bottom when I sort by date. :) > > > > Did you get the source or binaries from ftp.cac? What OS are you running? > > > > -- > > Scott Leibrand > > leibrand@u.washington.edu > > http://students.washington.edu/leibrand > > * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * > > * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * > > > > On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Robert Larmon wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > I think I have found a sorting bug. When you try to sort the > > > index of a folder, (using the $SortIndex) it doesn't sort. I try to sort > > > by date and by size, and the folder index doesn't change. Any ideas? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > > > > > > > ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` > > > ` Robert Larmon ` > > > ` PC Systems Analyst ` > > > ` USC Law School Computing Services ` > > > ` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` > > > ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' > > > > > > -- > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` > ` Robert Larmon ` > ` PC Systems Analyst ` > ` USC Law School Computing Services ` > ` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` > ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:55:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA13775; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA12103; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:55:08 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id OAA28007; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:54:18 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA18538 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:50:13 -0700 Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA19162 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:50:12 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA22288 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:50:12 -0700 Received: from localhost (hubert@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA02375 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:50:11 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: month_num function Y2K compliant? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN It's not a problem. Pine only uses 4-digit years for sent-mail folders so this function will only see 4-digit years in most cases. If somebody does rename a sent-mail folder to sent-mail.01 then the only thing bad that will happen is that pine will create (after asking) a sent-mail.2001 folder when maybe the user thinks it should be in .01. Nothing bad happens. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Dennis Gurgul wrote: > > CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN HOW THIS CURRENT Y2K THREAD RELATES TO THE FOLLOWING > EXCHANGE FROM MARCH? DOES THIS SAME ISSUE EXIST WITH 3.90? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 14:31:46 -0800 (PST) > From: Jessica Rasku > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Re: Y2K compliance > > On Mon, 22 Mar 1999, Bill Goulette wrote: > > > I am running version 3.90 pine for UNIX. Can anyone direct me to the > most > > recent (closest to Y2K compliant) version available? > > Thanks > > To my knowledge there are no Y2K concerns with any version of > Pine. The only use of dates as far as I know is in the Date: field of the > message header, and no date that I know of will crash Pine. The problem > that may show up (and probably can't be handled at all), is dealing with > messages with non compliant (hm, RFC 822 specifies a 2 digit date, has > this been updated at some point?) mail readers. But, the problem is that > those messages may be placed in the wrong place in the date sorted list... > Am I sorely mistaken? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > THANKS, > DENNIS > > > Dennis J. Gurgul > Helix Server Management > 617.724.3169 > > On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Leslie Dreyer Kalra wrote: > > > On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Daniel Sands wrote: > > > > >_ > > >_ > > >_> > > >_> month = (year < 100 ? year + 1900 : year) * 12 + i; > > >_> > > >_> This appears to correct for 2-digit years by adding 1900, which will be > > >_> incorrect next year. > > >_ > > >_No, it appears to me that they are compensating for the possibility of only > > >_being given a 2-digit year. Notice that if year>=100 (say, 2014), it keeps > > >_year as is. But if they are only given a 2-digit year, they assume that it is > > >_19xx. > > >_ > > > > Right. That's why it will fail after 2000. In 2001, you generally don't > > want the 2-digit year 01 to be interpreted as 1901. We can't assume that > > Joe User will forsake the 2-digit year in the 21st century. > > > > Anyway, I got e-mail from someone at UW saying that this will be fixed in > > Pine 4.21. I don't know if he copied it to the list. I guess not. > > > > leslie > > -- > > Leslie Dreyer Kalra > > Techies, Inc. Computing and Internet > > lbd@techiesinc.com Consultant > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA12076; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA26037; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:59:27 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id OAA18716; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:58:22 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA50788 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:53:12 -0700 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA12197 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:53:11 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA06005 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:53:11 -0700 Received: from localhost (hubert@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA02475 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:53:11 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine Roles selection (was: goto-default-rule bug) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN If you answer No to the use role question, you will be put into the composer with your default settings. In 4.10 No canceled the reply, now No doesn't cancel the reply, it just means you don't want to use the offered role. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id HAA02424; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:41:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id HAA12177; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:41:08 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id HAA15322; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:39:56 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA43306 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:35:29 -0700 Received: from mm02snlnto.sandia.gov (mm02snlnto.sandia.gov [132.175.109.21]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id HAA21383 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:35:28 -0700 Received: from 132.175.109.1 by mm02snlnto.sandia.gov with ESMTP ( WorldSecure Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v3.6); Wed, 20 Oct 99 08:35:17 -0600 Received: from sasg829.sandia.gov (sasg829.sandia.gov [134.253.226.190]) by sass165.sandia.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA00808; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:35:18 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:35:02 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Daniel Sands" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: month_num function Y2K compliant? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Leslie Dreyer Kalra" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Server-Uuid: 7edb479a-fd89-11d2-9a77-0090273cd58c X-WSS-ID: 14130CAF285928-01-01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > >_> month = (year < 100 ? year + 1900 : year) * 12 + i; > >_> > >_> This appears to correct for 2-digit years by adding 1900, which will be > >_> incorrect next year. > >_ > >_No, it appears to me that they are compensating for the possibility of only > >_being given a 2-digit year. Notice that if year>=100 (say, 2014), it keeps > >_year as is. But if they are only given a 2-digit year, they assume that it is > >_19xx. > >_ > > Right. That's why it will fail after 2000. In 2001, you generally don't > want the 2-digit year 01 to be interpreted as 1901. We can't assume that > Joe User will forsake the 2-digit year in the 21st century. Hmmm, I would assume that is why it will not fail--it will get "2001" instead of "01" and interpret the date correctly. If you're still using 2-digit dates after 1999, you deserve to crash and burn. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:49:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id HAA02622; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id HAA31279; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:49:45 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id HAA24798; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:48:24 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA13634 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:44:43 -0700 Received: from konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.59.132]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id HAA15765 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:44:42 -0700 Received: from localhost by konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05756; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:44:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:44:37 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Freda B Birnbaum To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: correcting dictionary entries in PC-Pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: fbb6@columbia.edu X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Freda B Birnbaum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I use Pine on a Unix system, as well as having installed PC-Pine on my PC; it makes life VERY easy re storing and reading old mail once it's off the Unix account. The ability to add words to the dictionary (re the spell-check function) is not available on the Unix version (perhaps not enabled by the system administrator) but it is on PC-Pine as I set it up. My question is, occasionally I add a word to the dictionary in error while I'm spell-checking, that is, I add it inadvertently before I realize that I don't want to. Is there some way to get into the dictionary and remove words that you've added in error? (Of course, I do try to proofread things anyway for homonyms, grammar, etc.) Thanks. Freda Birnbaum, fbb6@columbia.edu "Call on God, but row away from the rocks" -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA24450; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA13908; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:47:15 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id IAA27724; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:46:07 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA09886 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:41:50 -0700 Received: from konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (IDENT:cu43432@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.59.132]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA31551 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:41:49 -0700 Received: from localhost by konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26043; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:41:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:41:45 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Freda B Birnbaum To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: correcting dictionary entries in PC-Pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: fbb6@columbia.edu X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Freda B Birnbaum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I asked, re PC-Pine: > My question is, occasionally I add a word to the dictionary in error > while I'm spell-checking, that is, I add it inadvertently before I > realize that I don't want to. Is there some way to get into the > dictionary and remove words that you've added in error? (Of course, I > do try to proofread things anyway for homonyms, grammar, etc.) I do notice that there is a file in my C:\PINE directory called DICT.U, which appears to be a list of words, separated by commas, which I have added to the dictionary. Can I remove some of them with an editor without breaking something? Freda Birnbaum, fbb6@columbia.edu "Call on God, but row away from the rocks" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:10:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA04843; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA01183; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:10:48 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id JAA28945; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:09:25 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA23084 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:05:21 -0700 Received: from desi.techiesinc.com (desi.techiesinc.com [206.245.137.117]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA29436 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:05:20 -0700 Received: from ethel (lbd@ethel.techiesinc.com [206.245.137.116]) by desi.techiesinc.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA14939; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:53:58 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 12:14:23 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Leslie Dreyer Kalra To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: month_num function Y2K compliant? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Daniel Sands X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Daniel Sands wrote: >_> >_> Right. That's why it will fail after 2000. In 2001, you generally don't >_> want the 2-digit year 01 to be interpreted as 1901. We can't assume that >_> Joe User will forsake the 2-digit year in the 21st century. >_ >_Hmmm, I would assume that is why it will not fail--it will get "2001" instead >_of "01" and interpret the date correctly. If you're still using 2-digit dates >_after 1999, you deserve to crash and burn. >_ That's an interesting attitude to take -- you must never have done tech support (lucky you!). Unfortunately, the reality of the situation is, when the user comes banging on your door to complain about a 2-digit year problem, telling him/her that they deserve everything they get will get you, at best, more grief than you ever want in your life and, at worst, a bad raise or a pink slip. The fact is, if your software doesn't handle 2-digit years properly regardless of what century you're in, it's not Y2K compliant. End of story. Fortunately, in this case, the bug is tiny and highly unlikely to be exploited by anyone; even if it is, there is no damage. Nonetheless, it needs to be fixed. I think the horse is thoroughly dead. -- Leslie Dreyer Kalra Techies, Inc. Computing and Internet lbd@techiesinc.com Consultant From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA05280; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA15250; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:23:07 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id JAA26462; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:22:03 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA29152 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:16:59 -0700 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA31846 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:16:58 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA10267 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:16:58 -0700 Received: from localhost (hubert@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA05385 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:16:58 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine's color feature In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I don't know if this is what's causing your problems or not, but there is a program called "color_xterm" which is an old, buggy xterm with color support. Try getting a newer xterm program to see if that fixes it. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, Vibhu AV wrote: > > Hi, > > I am now using color-xterm so that I can use the color > features of pine 4.20. But, I have noticed that the redraw > ... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA05190; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA15379; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:27:13 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id JAA29773; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:26:00 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA18680 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:18:29 -0700 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA32197 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:18:28 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA10401 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:18:28 -0700 Received: from localhost (hubert@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA05437 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:18:27 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: index menu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Look at the feature named "assume-slow-link". -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, Pawel S. Veselov wrote: > Hello ! > > Got 4.20 pine installed. Cool thing, but I've found one annoying problem. > > Somewhy, I have index bar is not actually a bar but a pointer on the left side > of message index. And index is not colored. The key menu and title are colored > and colors are taken from termdef and are not forced. > > Everything is OK, when I use native terminal entry (xtermc), but everything > goes bad under screen terminal. > > So, the actual question is how does pine determine when draw bar or index ? > > Thanx in advance. > > Bye. > -- > With best of best regards, Pawel S. Veselov (aka Black Angel) > Web page : http://i.am/BlackAngel | ICQ UIN : 5252265 > Internet e-mail : blackangel@i.am > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:39:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA05794; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA02081; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:39:30 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id JAA00713; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:38:28 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA34126 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:33:44 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA08194 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:33:43 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA15593 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:33:43 -0700 Received: from localhost (mbmiller@localhost) by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA16269 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:33:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:33:22 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine's color feature In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Steve Hubert wrote: > I don't know if this is what's causing your problems or not, but there > is a program called "color_xterm" which is an old, buggy xterm with > color support. Try getting a newer xterm program to see if that fixes > it. A little off-topic, perhaps, but can someone explain what "color support" means in xterm? I can choose colors (background, foreground, cursor) in the xterm I'm using now, but I assume that "color support" means something more than that. For example, if pine is running in an xterm with color support, and it is displaying html with in it, will it show the appropriate colors? Can it do other cool things with colors? Regards, Mike -- Michael B. Miller University of Missouri--Columbia http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:48:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA08064; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA18275; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:48:24 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id KAA04765; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:47:26 -0700 Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (root@jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA42166 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:43:18 -0700 Received: from dante09.u.washington.edu (leibrand@dante09.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.19]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA24538; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:43:16 -0700 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by dante09.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA78286; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:43:15 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: correcting dictionary entries in PC-Pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Freda B Birnbaum X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Yes, there is. You just need to open up the custom dicionary file in a text editor. Since I don't remember where PC-Pine's dictionary file is stored, here's what I do with ANY spell-check program on my PC to correct the dictionary: Go to Start, Find, Files or Folders. Type the mis-spelled word in the "containing text" field, either under the first or last tab. Make sure it's searching for all file types on c:\ (or All Local Drives), and press Find Now. You should get only a few results, one of which will be your dictionary file. Open that file with a text editor (notepad, wordpad, or your favorite word processor) and edit to your heart's content. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Freda B Birnbaum wrote: > I use Pine on a Unix system, as well as having installed PC-Pine on my PC; > it makes life VERY easy re storing and reading old mail once it's off the > Unix account. The ability to add words to the dictionary (re the > spell-check function) is not available on the Unix version (perhaps not > enabled by the system administrator) but it is on PC-Pine as I set it up. > > My question is, occasionally I add a word to the dictionary in error while > I'm spell-checking, that is, I add it inadvertently before I realize that > I don't want to. Is there some way to get into the dictionary and remove > words that you've added in error? (Of course, I do try to proofread > things anyway for homonyms, grammar, etc.) > > Thanks. > > Freda Birnbaum, fbb6@columbia.edu > "Call on God, but row away from the rocks" > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA08208; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:51:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA18431; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:51:47 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id KAA04993; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:51:02 -0700 Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (root@jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA54066 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:44:11 -0700 Received: from dante09.u.washington.edu (leibrand@dante09.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.19]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA30640; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:44:10 -0700 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by dante09.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA53758; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:44:09 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:44:09 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: correcting dictionary entries in PC-Pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Freda B Birnbaum X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Yes. Just make a backup copy and be sure to keep the format the same. (Don't add extra spaces, for example, or do any weird word-wrapping). -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Freda B Birnbaum wrote: > I asked, re PC-Pine: > > > My question is, occasionally I add a word to the dictionary in error > > while I'm spell-checking, that is, I add it inadvertently before I > > realize that I don't want to. Is there some way to get into the > > dictionary and remove words that you've added in error? (Of course, I > > do try to proofread things anyway for homonyms, grammar, etc.) > > I do notice that there is a file in my C:\PINE directory called DICT.U, > which appears to be a list of words, separated by commas, which I have > added to the dictionary. Can I remove some of them with an editor without > breaking something? > > Freda Birnbaum, fbb6@columbia.edu > "Call on God, but row away from the rocks" > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA07775; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA04951; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:00:02 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id KAA25313; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:58:55 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA56112 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:54:50 -0700 Received: from konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (IDENT:cu43432@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.59.132]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA25287 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:54:49 -0700 Received: from localhost by konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18383; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:54:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:54:46 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Freda B Birnbaum To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: correcting dictionary entries in PC-Pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: fbb6@columbia.edu X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Freda B Birnbaum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thnaks to Scott for the help! And, of course > Open that file with a text editor (notepad, wordpad, or your favorite > word processor) and edit to your heart's content. :-) Pico! (Actually I really love VMS' EVE... sniff... sob...) Thnaks again. Freda Birnbaum, fbb6@columbia.edu "Call on God, but row away from the rocks" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:15:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA09096; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:15:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA19192; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:15:35 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id LAA03055; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:14:37 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA56266 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:10:53 -0700 Received: from konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (IDENT:cu43432@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.59.132]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA28849 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:10:51 -0700 Received: from localhost by konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24592; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:10:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:10:46 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Freda B Birnbaum To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: correcting dictionary entries in PC-Pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: fbb6@columbia.edu X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Freda B Birnbaum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Scott Leibrand wrote: > Yes. Just make a backup copy and be sure to keep the format the > same. (Don't add extra spaces, for example, or do any weird > word-wrapping). And Freda adds: Note that the file is ONE LONG LINE... don't hit carriage-returns or justify it! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA15062; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA12482; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:02:07 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA17787; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:00:41 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA40812 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:54:42 -0700 Received: from mail3.new-york.net (root@mail3.new-york.net [165.254.2.58]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA07099 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:54:41 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com (aleph.ii.com [165.254.18.8]) by mail3.new-york.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/NYNET-2.2-NORELAY) with ESMTP id RAA15755; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:54:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:55:47 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy this-address-is-valid McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine Roles selection (was: goto-default-rule bug) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-To: Steve Hubert X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: nm@operamail.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 99-10-19 Steve Hubert wrote: > If you answer No to the use role question, you will be put into the > composer with your default settings. In 4.10 No canceled the reply, now No > doesn't cancel the reply, it just means you don't want to use the offered > role. But it would still be nice to have the option of using ^N and ^P to choose a role. In 4.20 you get a prompt like this: Use role "pine" for Reply? ? Help Y [Yes] ^T To Select Alternate Role ^C Cancel N No Role How about changing it to be something like this: Use role "pine" for Reply? ? Help Y [Yes] D Default Role ^N Next Role ^C Cancel ^T To Select Role ^P Previous Role I think of the default role as a role so to me "No Role" does not make sense. If you need "N" to mean something you could make it equivalent to "D" which I suggest above to mean "Default Role." Also you do not need to say "To Select ALTERNATE Role" because the role offered (in my case `pine') is in what ^T offers. "To Select Role" is more accurate (and shorter too!). Thanks for considering this, Nancy -- For Pine info & links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ ©Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com/ Infinite Ink --= Sent via PINE 4.20: Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA21339; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:09:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA01715; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:09:39 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id VAA01113; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:08:51 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA23730 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:04:48 -0700 Received: from mail (www.fremont.com [216.160.122.28]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id VAA21799 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:04:47 -0700 Received: from canal (216.160.122.29) by mail with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.16 AS-5341184) for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:34:20 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:37:20 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "TOM" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: New Account's Can create mailbox MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello.. I am posting to this list for the first time. I am a newbie system admin for a small private school's LINUX network. I just added new students to the system, placing them in the same group as all the existing students. When a new account tries to send mail in PINE a message comes up: Folder "sent-mail" doesn't exist. Create? The user replies yes and then a message appears saying there is no sent-mail folder, then it says no such file or directory exists, can't send to FCC. The school runs PINE 3.96. All the preexisting users can send mail no problem just the ones recently created are having this problem. The operating system is LINUX 2.0.29 Any ideas? Tom Sparks Pacific Crest Montessori School Seattle Washington. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:55:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA21247; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA02374; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:55:11 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id VAA28419; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:54:24 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA55614 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:50:47 -0700 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (root@euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA26481 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:50:47 -0700 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (chappa@goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA24369 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:50:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:50:46 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Eduardo Chappa L." To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: save message rule In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello In pine there are 17 different rules to choose from in order to decide how to save a message to a folder. However these rules do not cover all the cases, for example for a person with nick "Nickname" I may associate folders "sent-Nickname" and "save-Nickname" for messages sent to and received from the person defining "Nickname". There is no such a rule for sent-mail, because ,at least for your nicks, you can define it at the moment of adding the nick to your addressbook. So I decided to write a patch for pine where one can define not only the fcc for a nick in your addressbook, but also a "save-to" folder, which will be the folder where pine will offer to save the messages of this person. If nothing is defined, or the nick is not found, pine will use one of the 17 rules for saved messages, according to your configuration. The patch is only for pine4.10, I assume I will make it available in a couple of days (when I adapt it) to pine4.20/4.21 (if this appears soon). My transition to pine4.20 has been slow to say the least... If you are interested, pick the patch from the address below, where more information about the patch can be found. Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:01:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id WAA21918; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id WAA21730; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:01:33 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id WAA07921; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:00:50 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA22266 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:57:38 -0700 Received: from rwja.UMDNJ.EDU (root@rwja.UMDNJ.EDU [130.219.4.100]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA29193 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:57:37 -0700 Received: from [130.219.170.51] ([130.219.170.51] (may be forged)) by rwja.UMDNJ.EDU (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA00779 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 00:57:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 00:56:43 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Cliff Green To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: index menu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: green@polihale.umdnj.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Steve Hubert wrote: > Look at the feature named "assume-slow-link". Alternatively, check (with stty) the stated speed of your connection. Even with an actually fast enough connection, this value can be set to an artificially low value, at which point Pine will automatically assume a slow link. (Yes, this happened to me, using TeraTerm with ttssh over an ethernet connection. Resetting, via .profile, with 'stty 38400' if I've connected with ssh has fixed this.) > On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, Pawel S. Veselov wrote: > > > Hello ! > > > > Got 4.20 pine installed. Cool thing, but I've found one annoying problem. > > > > Somewhy, I have index bar is not actually a bar but a pointer on the left side > > of message index. And index is not colored. The key menu and title are colored > > and colors are taken from termdef and are not forced. > > > > Everything is OK, when I use native terminal entry (xtermc), but everything > > goes bad under screen terminal. > > > > So, the actual question is how does pine determine when draw bar or index ? c -- Cliff Green green@umdnj.edu Academic Computing Service - UMDNJ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id WAA22148; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:19:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id WAA02722; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:19:04 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id WAA02876; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:18:29 -0700 Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (root@jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA33232 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:14:24 -0700 Received: from dante20.u.washington.edu (leibrand@dante20.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.70]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA13720; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:14:24 -0700 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by dante20.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA85446; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:14:23 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: New Account's Can create mailbox In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: TOM X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Check the permissions on their mail directories. Do they allow file creation in that folder? Also, I'd read up on the proper file permissions for some of Pine's files and folders. They're kinda unintuitive. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, TOM wrote: > Hello.. > I am posting to this list for the first time. > > I am a newbie system admin for a small private school's LINUX network. I > just added new students to the system, placing them in the same group as all > the existing students. When a new account tries to send mail in PINE a > message comes up: > > Folder "sent-mail" doesn't exist. Create? > > The user replies yes and then a message appears saying there is no sent-mail > folder, then it says no such file or directory exists, can't send to FCC. > > The school runs PINE 3.96. All the preexisting users can send mail no > problem just the ones recently created are having this problem. The > operating system is LINUX 2.0.29 > > Any ideas? > > Tom Sparks > Pacific Crest Montessori School Seattle Washington. > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:22:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id WAA22213; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id WAA22065; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:22:41 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id WAA22683; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:22:04 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA33078 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:15:41 -0700 Received: from tao.agoron.com (tao.agoron.com [206.181.233.66]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id WAA30864 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:15:41 -0700 Received: from tao.agoron.com (rem15.agoron.com [207.86.97.146]) by tao.agoron.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA26553; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 01:15:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <380EB05C.3B090A0D@tao.agoron.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 01:19:08 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Andy Malato To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: New Account's Can create mailbox References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: TOM X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Accept-Language: en X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi Tom, How did you add those students to the UNIX box, did you add them manually to the passwd file or did you use an add user script? The reason I ask, is that if you didn't use a script, the home directories for those students may not exist. Also Make sure that the home directories are owned by those users and not root. You should also consider upgrading the version of PINE to the latest. I hope that helps you some what, if you need to, feel free to email me with any further questions!!!! -- Andy Malato Agora Online / CompuSol Consulting, INC. Systems Administrator Bayonne, NJ 201-437-6440 TOM wrote: > > Hello.. > I am posting to this list for the first time. > > I am a newbie system admin for a small private school's LINUX network. I > just added new students to the system, placing them in the same group as all > the existing students. When a new account tries to send mail in PINE a > message comes up: > > Folder "sent-mail" doesn't exist. Create? > > The user replies yes and then a message appears saying there is no sent-mail > folder, then it says no such file or directory exists, can't send to FCC. > > The school runs PINE 3.96. All the preexisting users can send mail no > problem just the ones recently created are having this problem. The > operating system is LINUX 2.0.29 > > Any ideas? > > Tom Sparks > Pacific Crest Montessori School Seattle Washington. > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id WAA22772; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id WAA22671; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:47:27 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id WAA23220; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:46:49 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA33028 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:43:16 -0700 Received: from polaris.shore.net (polaris.shore.net [207.244.124.105]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id WAA01892 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:43:16 -0700 Received: from shell3.shore.net [207.244.124.103] by polaris.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) for pine-info@u.washington.edu id 11eB0N-0006MT-00; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 01:43:15 -0400 Received: from ar by shell3.shore.net with local (Exim) id 11eB0M-0001GT-00; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 01:43:14 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 01:43:14 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ariel To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: bug in 4.20 - crash with news and /user= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: Ariel X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've found a bug in 4.20 (it works perfectly in 4.10 BTW). The bug causes a pine panic, received an abort signal, then crash. To cause it, create a news folder (m s l) for server put (for example) news.foo.net/nntp/user=user When pine tries to connect to the server it says [>Invalid host specifier: news.foo.net/user="user"<] then gives me a login prompt. If I cancel, nothing bad happens (except a lot of beeping - can you fix that?) but if you put in the correct password, pine will crash as mentioned above. If you omit the user= part, then it works fine except that it uses the local user - which isn't going to work for the news server. I tried service=nntp too with no difference. SunOS 5.5.1 Generic_103640-27 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-2 Since I am on the subject can you _please_ put in a way for pine to _post_ to the correct news server!!!! I would be pleased if it was able to simply realize that the server I'm connected to (i.e. I'm already in a newsgroup on the server). I realize that if you simply do compose, and type in a newsgroup it's not going to work properly. But for compose when reading a newsgroup, or a reply, it can find the correct news server to post to. And you can add a server header, or do something like Newsgrps: server/alt.newsgroup, comp.newsgroup2 Where server is the local nickname for a server as configured in the folder list screen. I regularly read newsgroups from 4 different servers, and posting messages is getting to be a big pain. -Ariel PS. When is 4.21 coming out? :) Just asking because of the new flag bug, plus this one, are a bit of a problem. And BTW I got the new flag stuck bug also in 4.10 - I just don't know how to reproduce it, but it seems to depend on the content of the message. PPS. Another (small) bug report, if I get a message with a content-type of text/html, but without a mime-version header, pine doesn't render the message as html - and I think it should. The message might be out of spec, but if there are no attachments (one part, non mime message) I'm not so sure it's wrong to omit the mime-version, since it's not using mime really - just a content type. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id XAA23016; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id XAA03911; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:03:40 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id XAA00422; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:03:08 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA24602 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:59:48 -0700 Received: from caveman.geac.com.au (caveman.geac.com.au [203.30.73.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id WAA03366 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:59:36 -0700 Received: (qmail 22621 invoked from network); 21 Oct 1999 15:58:43 +1000 Received: from trowel.geac.com.au (203.1.26.189) by caveman.geac.com.au with SMTP; 21 Oct 1999 15:58:43 +1000 Received: (qmail 16866 invoked from network); 21 Oct 1999 15:59:27 +1000 Received: from fgh.geac.com.au (202.6.67.163) by trowel.geac.com.au with SMTP; 21 Oct 1999 15:59:27 +1000 Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by fgh.geac.com.au?r with ESMTP id PAA17541 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:57:01 +1000 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:57:01 +1000 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Dave Horsfall To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: bug in 4.20 - crash with news and /user= In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion List X-Authentication-Warning: fgh.geac.com.au: dave owned process doing -bs X-Sender: dave@fgh X-No-Archive: Yes X-Witty-Saying: "Tesseract - Enter at own risk" X-Disclaimer: "Me, speak for us?" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Ariel wrote: > PPS. Another (small) bug report, if I get a message with a content-type of > text/html, but without a mime-version header, pine doesn't render the > message as html - and I think it should. The message might be out of spec, No, it shouldn't. Yes, the message is out of spec. We shouldn't support broken software. -- Dave Horsfall VK2KFU dave@geac.com.au Ph: +61 2 9978-7493 Fx: +61 2 9978-7422 Geac Computers P/L (FGH Division) 2/57 Christie St, St Leonards 2065, Australia From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 07:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id HAA01545; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 07:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id HAA11757; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 07:04:06 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id HAA02926; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 07:02:41 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA28132 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 06:57:36 -0700 Received: from demokrit.nikoma.de (demokrit.nikoma.de [212.122.129.5]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA30663 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 06:57:35 -0700 Received: from localhost.localdomain (ppp-192.tnt02.ffm.nikoma.de [212.122.146.192]) by demokrit.nikoma.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E4D182D for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:57:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (claus@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04244 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:53:13 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:53:13 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Claus Atzenbeck To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: rpm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: claus owned process doing -bs X-Sender: claus@localhost.localdomain X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Does anyone know if there is a RPM package for pine 4.20? I would need one compiled for LinuxPPC or a source RPM package. Thanks for your answers! Regards, Claus. -- Claus Atzenbeck, stud. phil. seminar papers: http://homepages.uni-regensburg.de/~atc16247/ [This mail was created on a 100% Micro$oft-free computer.] -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:53:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA03563; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA00932; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:53:32 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id IAA13513; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:47:11 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA45778 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:42:41 -0700 Received: from gort.office.aol.com (x98A3A3A9.pix.aol.com [152.163.163.169]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA13213 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:42:41 -0700 Received: from DBPETE ([10.2.107.45]) by gort.office.aol.com with ESMTP (8.7.1/8.7.1) id LAA05442; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:42:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:42:36 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Dan Peterson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine Roles selection (was: goto-default-rule bug) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Steve Hubert X-X-Sender: pete@gort.office.aol.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN But that isn't the issue.... at least that wasn't _my_ issue. With 4.10, you could change the role by using ^P and ^N from the prompt line, now you need to use ^T which takes you to a new screen with all the roles displayed, after selecting, you are returned to the prompt line and again asked to confirm. It's much easier just to go ^N ^N ^N Enter. > - What happened to ^P and ^N in the Roles Selection screen? Now it's > a two-step process to choose an alternate role, where before it was only > one. This isn't really worth changing in my case, though, because the > only two roles I compose with are my default and first ones. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Peterson Senior Software Engineer AOL Email: pete@aol.net Phone: 703-265-0226 FAX: 703-265-2405 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Steve Hubert wrote: > If you answer No to the use role question, you will be put into the > composer with your default settings. In 4.10 No canceled the reply, now No > doesn't cancel the reply, it just means you don't want to use the offered > role. > > -- > Steve Hubert > Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA13690; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA25350; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:57:30 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id OAA02298; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:56:35 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA22228 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:51:31 -0700 Received: from phoenix.math.spbu.ru (root@phoenix.math.spbu.ru [195.19.230.5]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA17923 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:51:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (vps@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phoenix.math.spbu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA24066 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 01:51:27 +0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 01:51:27 +0400 (MSD) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Pawel S. Veselov" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: index menu In-Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, Steve! On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Steve Hubert wrote: >Look at the feature named "assume-slow-link". Alas, it turned off :( [ skipped ] >>Got 4.20 pine installed. Cool thing, but I've found one annoying problem. >>Somewhy, I have index bar is not actually a bar but a pointer on the left >>side of message index. And index is not colored. The key menu and title are >>colored and colors are taken from termdef and are not forced. >>Everything is OK, when I use native terminal entry (xtermc), but everything >>goes bad under screen terminal. >>So, the actual question is how does pine determine when draw bar or index ? Bye. -- With best of best regards, Pawel S. Veselov (aka Black Angel) Web page : http://i.am/BlackAngel | ICQ UIN : 5252265 Internet e-mail : blackangel@i.am From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA13881; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:02:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA11955; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:02:52 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA02563; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:01:56 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA11176 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:58:05 -0700 Received: from phoenix.math.spbu.ru (root@phoenix.math.spbu.ru [195.19.230.5]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA19065 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:58:03 -0700 Received: from localhost (vps@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phoenix.math.spbu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA24189; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 01:57:50 +0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 01:57:50 +0400 (MSD) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Pawel S. Veselov" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine's color feature [OFFTOPIC] In-Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Miller X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, Mike! On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Mike Miller wrote: >>I don't know if this is what's causing your problems or not, but there is a >>program called "color_xterm" which is an old, buggy xterm with color support. >>Try getting a newer xterm program to see if that fixes it. >A little off-topic, perhaps, but can someone explain what "color support" >means in xterm? xterm can show colors or not, despite of TERM environment variable. Show, xterm supports color if he eligible to :) In fact, you can have incorrect TERM variable, or termcap/terminfo entry. But if the xterm supports colors, then you can force pine to draw colored text. >I can choose colors (background, foreground, cursor) in the >xterm I'm using now, but I assume that "color support" means something more >than that. For example, if pine is running in an xterm with color support, >and it is displaying html with in it, will it show the >appropriate colors? Can it do other cool things with colors? Confusing. The first question is about xterm colors, and the second is about pine colors :) Since I understand, pine just doesn't have a feature for html coloring. But, Lynx has, for example. Bye. -- With best of best regards, Pawel S. Veselov (aka Black Angel) Web page : http://i.am/BlackAngel | ICQ UIN : 5252265 Internet e-mail : blackangel@i.am From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 00:46:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id AAA22703; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 00:46:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id AAA04091; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 00:46:39 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id AAA02126; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 00:45:53 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA51548 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 00:40:54 -0700 Received: from mail.delanet.com (hermes.delanet.com [208.9.136.62]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id AAA19883 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 00:40:53 -0700 Received: (qmail 28410 invoked from network); 22 Oct 1999 07:40:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO modem42.delanet.com) (207.124.0.74) by mail.delanet.com with SMTP; 22 Oct 1999 07:40:18 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 03:41:08 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jacknife To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Multi-User PC-Pine v4.x with passwords MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: jacknife@mail.delanet.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Greetz... I'm new to the list and have noticed several requests of how-to procedures to configure PC-Pine for multi-user support, as well as having it keep the user's password for future logins... I do realize that keeping the passwords in an easily accessible file is a definite security hazard, but some people who may be using a simple peer-to-peer LAN or single machine system may not care about the security issues. I just recently downloaded PC-Pine v4.20, and have successfully configured it to allow multiple users to automatically logon to their individual POP3 accounts, by keeping their passwords in a reference file after the initial login... Since some users may use the same machine, in this case, (regrettably) a windoze '9x box, I've created a folder with housing different shortcuts for each user (user1's pine, user2's pine, etc)... To do this, you will have to create a copy of the pinerc file for each user and place it in the main directory for PC-Pine. (I used the naming scheme of user1.prc, user2.prc, etc) Next, I'd suggest that you edit each user's copy of the pinerc file to specify their login name, and "home" directory. Since pine creates a \MAIL directory on the current drive, I've decided to place the entire package in that directory, and have separate subdirectories for each user... (ie: \mail\user1, etc) Pine will try to force each user to use a (nasty) shared folder for common article types, so you'll have to specify each folder name in their copy of the pinerc as in the examples below: inbox-path={mail.ispname.com/pop3/user=user1}inbox incoming-archive-folders=k:\mail\user1\archives.mtx pruned-folders=k:\mail\user1\pruned.mtx default-fcc=k:\mail\user1\sentmail.mtx default-saved-msg-folder=k:\mail\user\savemail.mtx postponed-folder=k:\mail\user1\postpond.mtx read-message-folder=k:\mail\user1\readmail.mtx form-letter-folder=k:\mail\user1\formltr.mtx signature-file=k:\mail\user1\pine.sig address-book=k:\mail\user1\addrbook.lu ... If you would like pine to save a copy of the password after the initial session, you may create a blank file called PINE.PWD in the pine directory. Pine will then prompt the user if they wish to save their password after the initial login... After you create shortcuts for each user of pine you'll need to edit the shortcut properties, and specify the associated pinerc file for the user in the shortcut's target. Here is an example target: K:\MAIL\PINE.EXE -p K:\MAIL\user1.prc I realize this is an extremely crude configuration method to be setting up PC-Pine for multi-user support, but it's good enough for me since I don't have the network worries. :) Just FYI here: If for some reason you can't seem to find where PC-Pine saved a copy of a folder, check the environment for the location of the TEMP (TMP) directory (usually C:\WINDOWS\TEMP), and also look in the "My Documents" folder in Windoze... :) Hope this helps somebody! Later, Jacknife - -- These lines are to be ignored: multi-user multiple user saving password storing password POP3 keeping password remember the password PC-Pine 4.x -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBOBAUkG6j6a/1cjgfEQIKBwCgqWWpV5YjAYUxiBHt8sgwfG+GK/YAnjR/ iuaPLN3QHYOJVyuKB6Fgq1LZ =XNTG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 02:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id CAA25838; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 02:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id CAA25116; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 02:34:17 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id CAA17545; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 02:33:17 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA25334 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 02:29:48 -0700 Received: from mail.delanet.com (hermes.delanet.com [208.9.136.62]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id CAA25268 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 02:29:48 -0700 Received: (qmail 30251 invoked from network); 22 Oct 1999 09:29:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO modem75.delanet.com) (207.124.0.107) by mail.delanet.com with SMTP; 22 Oct 1999 09:29:16 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 05:29:54 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jacknife To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Multi-User PC-Pine v4.x with passwords In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: jacknife@mail.delanet.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Greetz... Just wanted to say that I messed up on my last post... There is an easier way to config pine for multiple users on one machine. The answer is to create a batch file which defines the variable $HOME, and launches PC-Pine while pointing to the user's pinerc file in thier home directory. Here's a sample batch file with minimum info: @ECHO OFF SET HOME=K:\PINE\USER1 K:\PINE\PINE.EXE -p K:\PINE\USER1\PINERC This will make PC-Pine act a bit more Unix-like, looking in the user's home directory for all files and directories. Pine will create a Mail directory under each user's home directory, which will feel a little more like home for many of us. You will need to place the PINE.PWD file under the user's home directory now, since the main directory will not be searched. Sample Directory Tree for Windoze Based Systems: K:\Pine +-- User1 | +-- Mail | +readmail | +savemail | +sentmail +-- User2 : +-- Mail . +... Again, I apologize for my last post... Kinda tired, and I'm not thinking too clearly. (obviously) Anyway, hope this will clear up any confusion from my last post. Oh, and forget about what I said about editing the pinerc file to specify folder locations. You won't need it with this setup. :) Later, Jacknife - -- These lines are to be ignored: multi-user multiple user saving password storing password POP3 keeping password remember the password PC-Pine 4.x -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBOBAuPm6j6a/1cjgfEQJzGQCg8XXwWpzmBEyIykrUHsFDydMq5BUAn0SO xISOqhCqS743zbqVc19EIKWa =b0TK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:56:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA31833; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:56:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA09865; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:56:50 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id GAA20772; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:56:07 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA13840 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:53:24 -0700 Received: from mail3.new-york.net (root@mail3.new-york.net [165.254.2.58]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA09378 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:53:24 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com (aleph.ii.com [165.254.18.8]) by mail3.new-york.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/NYNET-2.2-NORELAY) with ESMTP id JAA26051; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:53:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:51:32 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy this-address-is-valid McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Multi-User PC-Pine v4.x with passwords In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Technical Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: nm@operamail.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 99-10-22 Jacknife wrote: > @ECHO OFF > SET HOME=K:\PINE\USER1 > K:\PINE\PINE.EXE -p K:\PINE\USER1\PINERC You do not need to override the HOME environment variable because Pine will look in the directory where the pinerc file is for user-specific files, e.g., pine.pwd. I've got info about this on my "Setting Up PC-Pine for Power Users" in the section on "Setting Up PC-Pine for Multiple Users," which is mirrored at: http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#multUsers http://www.best.com/~ii/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#multUsers Feedback is welcome! -- For Pine info & links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ ©Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com/ Infinite Ink --= Sent via PINE 4.20: Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 07:00:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id HAA31855; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 07:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id HAA29354; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 07:00:01 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id GAA02226; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:59:01 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA13964 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:55:48 -0700 Received: from mail3.new-york.net (root@mail3.new-york.net [165.254.2.58]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA11805 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:55:48 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com (aleph.ii.com [165.254.18.8]) by mail3.new-york.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/NYNET-2.2-NORELAY) with ESMTP id JAA26575; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:55:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:53:50 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy this-address-is-valid McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PGP and PC-Pine 4.20 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Technical Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: nm@operamail.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 99-10-22 Jacknife wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello Jacknife, How do you use PGP and PC-Pine 4.20? Thanks, Nancy -- For Pine info & links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ ©Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com/ Infinite Ink --= Sent via PINE 4.20: Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:51:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA02651; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:51:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA14101; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:51:12 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id JAA14116; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:49:40 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA19922 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:46:08 -0700 Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA30877 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:46:08 -0700 Received: from eastmail2.East.Sun.COM ([129.148.1.241]) by mercury.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21236 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:46:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dartmouth.East.Sun.COM (dartmouth.East.Sun.COM [129.148.180.127]) by eastmail2.East.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id MAA28855 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:46:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (dfinberg@localhost) by dartmouth.East.Sun.COM (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20647 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:46:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:46:06 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: David Finberg - Sun High Performance Computing To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Sorting Problems in 4.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Mailing List X-Authentication-Warning: dartmouth.East.Sun.COM: dfinberg owned process doing -bs X-Sender: dfinberg@dartmouth X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am also having sorting problems in pine 4.20, but I am a unix system, not PC-pine. On Solaris 2.6, with the downloaded pine binary, against Sun's solstice imap server, I cannot sort by anything except ordered subject or Arrival. I can reverse. Pine 4.10 worked fine. I have the sources as well, if someone wants to give me some help on what to look for. -- Dave -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 02:13:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id CAA25753; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 02:13:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id CAA31515; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 02:13:38 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id CAA22607; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 02:07:11 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA19924 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 02:03:50 -0700 Received: from mail.delanet.com (hermes.delanet.com [208.9.136.62]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id CAA10280 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 02:03:49 -0700 Received: (qmail 74053 invoked from network); 23 Oct 1999 09:03:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO modem36.delanet.com) (207.124.0.68) by mail.delanet.com with SMTP; 23 Oct 1999 09:03:09 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 05:03:58 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jacknife To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PGP and PC-Pine 4.20 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Nancy this-address-is-valid McGough X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: jacknife@mail.delanet.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Nancy McGough wrote: > How do you use PGP and PC-Pine 4.20? It's fairly simple, actually. (I'm using Windoze'9x, remember) Once I've finished writing a message, I'll copy the text to the clipboard and use PGP v5.0 to sign the text, and then place the signed copy in the message body. The process is similar to messages received with PGP info. I'll copy the message to the clipboard, (using the > key a few times will spawn a copy of the message body in notepad) and then I'll do whatever is needed (verifying, decrypting, etc.). I've not figured out how to have PGP integrated with PC-Pine to where it'll automatically perform the needed functions. But to tell you the truth, I've not really tried. :) Though you could probably tweak a filter to parse PGP command-line parameters to automate some processes. Hope this helps, Brian -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBOBF4426j6a/1cjgfEQL7gwCeP7tlgm8RNMA5aw2nMUs85QX9tx4AnjvL 17APdPW/DkksDx9U3Oqvm1I+ =zXez -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 07:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id HAA31634; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 07:19:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id HAA03187; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 07:19:19 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id HAA07493; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 07:17:23 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA24748 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 07:13:35 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [129.250.30.40]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id HAA25650 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 07:13:34 -0700 Received: from socha.net (IDENT:root@next3.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.224.32]) by kens.com (8.9.3/8.9.3-mod-for-majordomo) with ESMTP id KAA19114 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 10:13:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from robin@localhost) by socha.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA20560; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 15:55:20 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 23 Oct 1999 15:55:19 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine's color feature In-Reply-To: Steve Hubert's message of "Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:16:57 -0700 (PDT)" References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-URL: X-Face: #Z}0zkbqU,m`+S)^0R[.23L-o>U{UQ|(DvIqu^Bjw:po_g9;4JnT9tbn;QX$ga/LYS X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN * Steve Hubert writes: > I don't know if this is what's causing your problems or not, but there > is a program called "color_xterm" which is an old, buggy xterm with > color support. Try getting a newer xterm program to see if that fixes > it. *harrump* Make that xiterm, if anything. Probably better choices in descending order: rxvt, Eterm (ever tried Eterm -t mutt?), konsole (KDE), gnome-terminal. YMMV. -- Robin S. Socha Closer to God - Nine Inch XEmacs From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 13:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id NAA20530; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 13:01:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id NAA08178; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 13:01:15 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA27961; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 12:59:34 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA22596 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 12:55:04 -0700 Received: from daisy.uwaterloo.ca (eddemain@daisy.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.58]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA15176 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 12:55:03 -0700 Received: from localhost (eddemain@localhost) by daisy.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18660 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 15:55:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 15:55:02 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Erik Demaine To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: best place to send bug reports? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine mailing list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, Eduardo Chappa L. wrote: > *** Mike Miller (mbmiller@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu) wrote on Oct 14, 1999: > > :) Where is the best place to send bug reports? Should I be sending them to > :) this list? > :) > > According to my configuration file it says: pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu > But I am also willing to know them, I guess it does not make a big > difference if you post them here too :) I reported a simple bug to pine-bugs several months ago, and am disappointed to see that it wasn't fixed in Pine 4.20... So here is the bug again: Postponing an email adds a blank line to the end of it. My configuration: Pine 4.10 or 4.20 on DEC OSF1 V4.0. I'm using a custom editor, but I don't think that matters, because repeatedly entering and exiting my editor does not add blank lines to the end. Erik -- Erik Demaine \) e-mail: eddemain@daisy.uwaterloo.ca (PGP avail.) Dept. of Computer Science \( URL: http://daisy.uwaterloo.ca/~eddemain/ University of Waterloo )\ "Any solution to a problem changes the problem." Waterloo, ON Canada N2L 3G1 (\ -R. W. Johnson From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 15:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA22014; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 15:35:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA10436; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 15:35:29 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA24000; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 15:34:41 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA28820 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 15:30:58 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA25007 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 15:30:57 -0700 Received: from localhost (mbmiller@localhost) by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id RAA06331 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 17:30:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 17:30:30 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: best place to send bug reports? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Erik Demaine wrote: > Postponing an email adds a blank line to the end of it. Yes. I have the same problem. If I've postponed something many times, I have a long string of newlines at the end. I think pine adds a newline to messages it sends out. Same for messages it postpones. Could that be it? Similarly, pico adds a newline at the end of every file it writes. Mike -- Michael B. Miller University of Missouri--Columbia http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:23:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA02543; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:23:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA14950; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:23:23 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id JAA07326; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:20:53 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA53642 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:14:15 -0700 Received: from heras.host4u.net (heras.host4u.net [209.150.128.13]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA27054 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:14:14 -0700 Received: from doctor (cable-modem-74.cable-lynx.net [209.115.221.74]) by heras.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA03254 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:14:09 -0500 Message-Id: <02f801bf1fca$a4c39840$4add73d1@doctor> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:56:18 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Thomas C. Smith D.C." To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Forwarded Mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there a system configuration variable that can be changed so there is more information provided with forwarded mail with PINE. Right now, I have in the body of the message ------Forwarded-------- Is it possible to add WHO it has been forwarded from? Thanks, Tom -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA12513; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA05621; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:47:05 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA26932; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:42:59 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA18512 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:38:08 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA03787 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:38:07 -0700 Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (root@jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA29147 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:38:07 -0700 Received: from dante25.u.washington.edu (leibrand@dante25.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.80]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA26702 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:38:06 -0700 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by dante25.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA81054 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:38:05 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Forwarded Mail (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Info Mailing List X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The default seems to be to include whatever headers were shown when you read the message, but I can't find any configuration for it, in .pinerc, .pine.conf, or .pine.conf.fixed. Anyone else know where this option is? What I did notice is that I get the header below if full headers are off, but I get the full headers (below the -- Forwarded message -- line) if they're on. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:56:18 -0600 From: Thomas C. Smith D.C. To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Forwarded Mail Is there a system configuration variable that can be changed so there is more information provided with forwarded mail with PINE. Right now, I have in the body of the message ------Forwarded-------- Is it possible to add WHO it has been forwarded from? Thanks, Tom -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA12755; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA06113; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:04:42 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA15889; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:54:28 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA37410 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:33:26 -0700 Received: from aurora.uaf.edu (fxjwk@aurora.alaska.edu [137.229.18.100]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA14312 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:33:25 -0700 Received: from localhost (fxjwk@localhost) by aurora.uaf.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07559; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:33:22 -0800 (AKDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:33:22 -0800 (AKDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jo Knox To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: best place to send bug reports? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Erik Demaine X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Erik Demaine wrote: > I reported a simple bug to pine-bugs several months ago, and am disappointed > to see that it wasn't fixed in Pine 4.20... So here is the bug again: > > Postponing an email adds a blank line to the end of it. > > My configuration: Pine 4.10 or 4.20 on DEC OSF1 V4.0. I'm using a custom > editor, but I don't think that matters, because repeatedly entering and exiting > my editor does not add blank lines to the end. Ummm, I don't see this behavior; Pine 4.20 on (now named) Compaq Tru64 Unix V4.0F. I can postpone right in a line, and when I get back into that message, the cursor will still be sitting there at the end of the same line (last character, basically). No extra returns from either Pine or Pico... jo From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:31:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA13264; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:31:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA06927; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:31:17 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id QAA07616; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:27:00 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA38294 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:14:22 -0700 Received: from lionking.org (btman@[216.94.40.43]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA05535 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:14:22 -0700 Received: from localhost (btman@localhost) by lionking.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01007; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:14:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:14:21 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Brian Tiemann To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: BUG: Markers not being updated if messages are read from the beginning MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Authentication-Warning: lionking.org: btman owned process doing -bs X-Sender: btman@lionking.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi-- One of my users found this, and I've reproduced it in my pine 4.20 mailbox as well. What happens is this: If you read messages in a folder in a scattershot manner, the "N" marker will be properly removed from each read message, and it stays "read" even after you exit the folder and reopen it. However, if you go to the beginning of a folder (whose contents are all unread) and start reading messages from the beginning, the N's will go away, but they reappear once you leave the folder and reopen it. The best place to reproduce this is in the sent-mail folder. Go to the top of the message list and read a few messages in sequence. The N's are now gone. Now leave the folder and reopen INBOX, then go back to sent-mail. The first few messages in the folder are marked "N" again. Sounds like an uninitialized variable problem, maybe? Thanks! Brian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id RAA15101; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id RAA29835; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:49:00 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id RAA25932; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:44:04 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA43480 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:32:21 -0700 Received: from vax.area.com (vax128.area.com [165.90.20.128]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id QAA11667 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:32:21 -0700 Received: (qmail 9287 invoked by uid 1828); 26 Oct 1999 23:32:16 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: mattack@area.com To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: View text/plain rather than text/html & view URL without Y/N question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: mattack@vax X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I posted this on comp.mail.pine first but unfortunately haven't gotten a solution to the admittedly relatively minor problems I've noticed. 1) It seems to me that pine 4.20 is now preferring to view text/html over text/plain when both attachments are on a message. How can I get it to view the text/plain version instead? I mean automatically, not hit 'v' then go to the right one, hit return. I really wish this were the default. 2) I LOVE the ability to have URLs (and pseudo-URLs) hilighted and be able to launch a web browser (Lynx) automatically. This kind of automatic user- friendliness is what I think a lot of UNIX programs are missing, and it seems like GUI influence has actually had a good influence in this respect. (Don't get me wrong, I _love_ UNIX and prefer Lynx over GUI web browsers, and use pine over GUI mailers even on these fast machines I have at work.) But anyway, my annoyance is over the Y/N question it asks me when I hit return on a link. Someone told me that the reason for this was so I could edit the link. I did realize this function was there after hitting ^G at the prompt. (I have the options list at bottom turned off). I understand that, but I still think it would be GREAT to have another option analogous to the "enable-alternate-editor-implicitly" (BTW, without this one feature, I don't think I'd use pine... not like any of you care) for the URL-viewing capability. For example "enable-msg-view-urls-implicitly". Thanks. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:00:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id SAA15251; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:00:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id SAA08879; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:00:09 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id RAA11058; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:56:51 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA17454 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:44:17 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA18806 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:44:16 -0700 Received: from localhost (mbmiller@localhost) by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA24498; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:43:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:43:46 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: extra newlines and long-line shifting (was Re: best place to send bug reports?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jo Knox X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Jo Knox wrote: > On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Erik Demaine wrote: > > > Postponing an email adds a blank line to the end of it. > > Ummm, I don't see this behavior; Pine 4.20 on (now named) Compaq Tru64 > Unix V4.0F. I can postpone right in a line, and when I get back into > that message, the cursor will still be sitting there at the end of the > same line (last character, basically). No extra returns from either > Pine or Pico... Are you sure? Did you ^F as far as you could each time? It definitely happens here. I postponed this message 4 times and it had 4 extra newlines at the end when I was done. Here's another bizarre 'feature' of pine/pico that might be relevant (probably not, but it is interesting). If you use ^J (justify) on the sets of lines below you will notice that it shifts them downward, and/or separates them and adds extra blank lines to the text. If there are two consecutive lines forming a 'paragraph' then it doesn't happen, but one line alone does it. I have arranged the lines in a few different ways to allow you to test this. Forward this message and edit it by using ^J on the lines below. Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id SAA15358; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:08:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id SAA30170; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:08:32 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id SAA16739; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:05:41 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA27142 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:20:57 -0700 Received: from aurora.uaf.edu (fxjwk@aurora.alaska.edu [137.229.18.100]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id RAA19270 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:20:56 -0700 Received: from localhost (fxjwk@localhost) by aurora.uaf.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03432; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:20:53 -0800 (AKDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:20:53 -0800 (AKDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jo Knox To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: extra newlines and long-line shifting (was Re: best place to send bug reports?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Miller X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Mike Miller wrote: > On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Jo Knox wrote: > > > On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Erik Demaine wrote: > > > > > Postponing an email adds a blank line to the end of it. > > > > Ummm, I don't see this behavior; Pine 4.20 on (now named) Compaq Tru64 > > Unix V4.0F. I can postpone right in a line, and when I get back into > > that message, the cursor will still be sitting there at the end of the > > same line (last character, basically). No extra returns from either > > Pine or Pico... > > Are you sure? Did you ^F as far as you could each time? It definitely > happens here. I postponed this message 4 times and it had 4 extra > newlines at the end when I was done. My boo-boo; ^F shows the end advancing; I've never noticed it because Pine remembers the cursor position within the message, and returns there every time.... > Here's another bizarre 'feature' of pine/pico that might be relevant > (probably not, but it is interesting). Yep, I've noticed before that justify is sometimes somewhat unintuitive... And occasionally, you need to use ^J^J rather than just once! jo From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA04040; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA17632; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:08:27 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id LAA01362; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:06:28 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA43748 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:59:33 -0700 Received: from glacier.binc.net (glacier.binc.net [205.173.176.10]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA06644 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:59:32 -0700 Received: from ip288.msn-office.binc.net (ip-200.office.binc.net [208.155.19.200]) by glacier.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA01082 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:59:30 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:58:43 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Bryan K. Walton" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Two PC-Pine Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: walton@mail.binc.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I installed PC-Pine a few weeks ago and am having two problems that I hope somebody can help we with. 1) Messages that I have read during a past session (and left in my inbox) show up as new and unread messages each time I log back in. 2) While logged in, my program will not check for new emails. It doesn't matter how many seconds I specify in my configuration file, it won't pull down news messages until I end my Pine session and start a new one. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can fix these problems? Thanks, Bryan Walton ____________________________________________________________________________ Bryan K. Walton Berbee Information Networks Corporation 5520 Research Park Drive Madison, Wisconsin 53711 Phone: 608.288.3000 E-Mail: walton@berbee.com ____________________________________________________________________________ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id NAA06962; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id NAA20848; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:01:30 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA16110; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:59:41 -0700 Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (root@jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA23718 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:56:07 -0700 Received: from dante20.u.washington.edu (leibrand@dante20.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.70]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA32768; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:56:05 -0700 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by dante20.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA73292; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:56:04 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:56:04 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Two PC-Pine Questions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Bryan K. Walton" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Bryan K. Walton wrote: > Hi, > I installed PC-Pine a few weeks ago and am having two problems > that I hope somebody can help we with. 1) Messages that I have read > during a past session (and left in my inbox) show up as new and > unread messages each time I log back in. Are you using Pine 4.20? If so, that was a known bug in early versions, and I believe it has been fixed. Try downloading a new copy from ftp.cac. > 2) While logged in, my program will not check for new emails. It > doesn't matter how many seconds I specify in my configuration file, it > won't pull down news messages until I end my Pine session and start a > new one. Are you using a POP3 mail server, or an IMAP one? If it's POP3, that's the way Pine is designed to work. To get messages when they come in, you'll need to close and open the folder, or close and open Pine if it's your default Inbox (if you specify it as an Incoming-Folder, you can close the folder without closing Pine.) > Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can fix these > problems? > > Thanks, > Bryan Walton > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > > Bryan K. Walton > Berbee Information Networks Corporation > 5520 Research Park Drive > Madison, Wisconsin 53711 > Phone: 608.288.3000 > E-Mail: walton@berbee.com > ____________________________________________________________________________ > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA12191; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA26876; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:22:42 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id QAA18794; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:21:48 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA38378 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:14:10 -0700 Received: from c006.sfo.cp.net (c006-h007.c006.sfo.cp.net [209.228.14.143]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id QAA29460 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:14:08 -0700 Received: (cpmta 26510 invoked from network); 27 Oct 1999 16:14:06 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO ?212.2.178.69?) (212.2.178.69) by smtp.oceanfree.net with SMTP; 27 Oct 1999 16:14:06 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:14:35 +0100 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Trevor Johnston To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Small Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sent: 27 Oct 1999 23:14:06 GMT X-Sender: trevor@localhost.localdomain X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I'm just after joining this mailing list. I'm not sure if usual procedure is to introduce yourself, but here's a very quick one: I'm 17 years old, living in Ireland, just north of Dublin. I'm a member of a local brass band, for which I run a web site at: http://www.socc.ie/brass My query is this: I have a list in my Pine address book of band members and a few other people who have an interest in the band. I have no trouble getting Pine to send a single message to all of these people, but the problem is that you end up with everyone's name in the To: field! But is there *any* way to get Pine to take the same address list and send a *single* message to everyone on the list, with only the recipient's name in the To: line? Not everyone on the list would appreciate a mass of people knowing their address. I have scoured the Pine site, documentationa and this list's archives for a solution, but no avail. Thanks in advance, Trevor Johnston -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:30:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA12359; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA27082; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:30:30 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id QAA19246; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:29:44 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA37324 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:25:07 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [129.250.30.40]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA18591 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:25:06 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [129.250.30.40]) by kens.com (8.9.3/8.9.3-mod-for-majordomo) with ESMTP id TAA28775; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 19:25:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 19:25:07 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Small Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Trevor Johnston X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In order to do what you're asking, man majordomo On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Trevor Johnston wrote: > Hi, > I'm just after joining this mailing list. I'm not sure if usual procedure > is to introduce yourself, but here's a very quick one: > I'm 17 years old, living in Ireland, just north of Dublin. I'm a > member of a local brass band, for which I run a web site at: > http://www.socc.ie/brass > > My query is this: I have a list in my Pine address book of band members > and a few other people who have an interest in the band. I have no trouble > getting Pine to send a single message to all of these people, but the > problem is that you end up with everyone's name in the To: field! > > But is there *any* way to get Pine to take the same address list and send > a *single* message to everyone on the list, with only the recipient's name > in the To: line? Not everyone on the list would appreciate a mass of > people knowing their address. > > I have scoured the Pine site, documentationa and this list's archives for > a solution, but no avail. > > Thanks in advance, > Trevor Johnston > > -- Ken Woods kwoods@kens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA12524; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA27173; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:34:22 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id QAA19377; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:33:33 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA10478 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:27:00 -0700 Received: from vax.area.com (vax125.area.com [165.90.20.125]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id QAA03560 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:27:00 -0700 Received: (qmail 15439 invoked by uid 1828); 27 Oct 1999 23:26:59 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:26:58 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: mattack@area.com To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Small Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Trevor Johnston X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: mattack@vax X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Trevor Johnston wrote: >But is there *any* way to get Pine to take the same address list and send >a *single* message to everyone on the list, with only the recipient's name >in the To: line? Not everyone on the list would appreciate a mass of >people knowing their address. Not exactly answering your question, but giving you a workaround: The usual solution to this problem is sending the mail to yourself on the To line, with everyone else on the Bcc: (blind carbon copy) line. Hmm, I saw no answers to my questions of yesterday (how to get text/plain shown by default and how to get rid of the Y/N question for viewing URLs).. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:40:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA12630; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:40:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA27359; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:40:27 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id QAA07428; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:39:12 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA31076 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:36:35 -0700 Received: from ns1.cdc.com (ns1.cdc.com [150.143.16.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA20746 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:36:34 -0700 Received: from [129.179.17.10] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 18:36:30 -0500 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 07:36:24 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 07:36:22 +0800 Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Small Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Trevor Johnston" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Trevor, > But is there *any* way to get Pine to take the same address list and send > a *single* message to everyone on the list, with only the recipient's name > in the To: line? Not everyone on the list would appreciate a mass of > people knowing their address. When your cursor is in the addressing area type CTRL-R to reveal some hidden headers. There you will find the Lcc: headers. The "help" on this item is as follows: THE MESSAGE COMPOSER'S LCC FIELD The "Lcc:" (List carbon copy) header is intended to be used when you wish to send a message to a list of people but avoid having all of their addresses visible, in order to reduce clutter when the message is received. It is similar to the "Bcc" (Blind carbon copy) header in that individual addressees are hidden, but Lcc is designed to work specifically with distribution lists you have created in your Pine Address Book. Placing the nickname of the list on the Lcc line will result in the full name of your Pine Address Book list being placed on the To: line of the message, using a special notation that distinguishes it from a real address. You must leave the To: line blank for your list name to appear there. Hope this is sufficient. Regards, Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA12879; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA06455; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:47:31 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id QAA07836; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:46:24 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA15498 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:43:49 -0700 Received: from c006.sfo.cp.net (c006-h008.c006.sfo.cp.net [209.228.14.144]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id QAA27889 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:43:48 -0700 Received: (cpmta 8330 invoked from network); 27 Oct 1999 16:43:46 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO ?212.2.178.69?) (212.2.178.69) by smtp.oceanfree.net with SMTP; 27 Oct 1999 16:43:46 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:44:15 +0100 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Trevor Johnston To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Small Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sent: 27 Oct 1999 23:43:46 GMT X-Sender: trevor@localhost.localdomain X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thursday, 28th October, different people wrote: > Not exactly answering your question, but giving you a workaround: > The usual solution to this problem is sending the mail to yourself on the > To line, with everyone else on the Bcc: (blind carbon copy) line. > > (control-R). This will give you "Rich Headers" (more headers); what > you're looking for can be accomplished with either BCC or LCC! > > In order to do what you're asking, > man majordomo Wow! *Three* responses in half an hour - I suspect that this is unusually good, but this is definitely the best mailing list I've yet joined. Thanks to those who took the time to help: installing and learning Majordomo would be too much work for what I need the list for. A quick test of Bcc: shows that this is the way to go. And I never even knew why it was there... Thanks, Trevor Johnston From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id RAA08087; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id RAA06843; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:03:32 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id RAA08859; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:02:02 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA24590 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:58:04 -0700 Received: from ns1.cdc.com (ns1.cdc.com [150.143.16.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA08781 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:58:03 -0700 Received: from [129.179.17.10] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 18:57:59 -0500 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 07:57:54 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 07:57:52 +0800 Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Small Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Trevor Johnston" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Trevor, > Wow! *Three* responses in half an hour - I suspect that this is unusually > good, but this is definitely the best mailing list I've yet joined. It is unusually fast. :-) > Thanks to those who took the time to help: installing and learning > Majordomo would be too much work for what I need the list for. A quick > test of Bcc: shows that this is the way to go. And I never even knew why > it was there... I would suggest a closer look at using Lcc: since a small mailing list was its reason for having been created. If you use the Bcc: field and put the To: field as yourself then it becomes difficult to do automatic sorting of incoming mails. With the Lcc: field you get the name of the list and sorting is a breeze. There are other potential drawbacks to the use of the Bcc: filed. If you place an address in the Bcc: but forget to put something in the To: then some systems will add the header "Apparently-To:" to the message. This field will then contain all the addresses you didn't want to show in the first place. Regards, Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:06:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id RAA13458; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:06:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id RAA06948; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:06:33 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id RAA00316; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:05:14 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA38672 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:00:50 -0700 Received: from ns1.cdc.com (ns1.cdc.com [150.143.16.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id RAA04714 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:00:49 -0700 Received: from [129.179.17.10] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 19:00:45 -0500 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:00:38 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:00:37 +0800 Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Small Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Trevor Johnston" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Trevor, > Whoops - upon receiving this message, I'll make use of Lcc: rather than > Bcc:...never come across that in the Pine manual. Good choice. :-) Sometimes this mailing list it too fast. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager Office: +886-2-2715-2222 Control Data Asia/Pacific Region FAX: +886-2-2712-9197 Mobile: +65-9751-0860 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id RAA13503; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:09:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id RAA07045; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:09:39 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id RAA00482; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:08:28 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA39430 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:04:17 -0700 Received: from c006.sfo.cp.net (c006-h007.c006.sfo.cp.net [209.228.14.143]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with SMTP id RAA31089 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:04:16 -0700 Received: (cpmta 4726 invoked from network); 27 Oct 1999 17:04:14 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO ?212.2.178.69?) (212.2.178.69) by smtp.oceanfree.net with SMTP; 27 Oct 1999 17:04:14 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:04:41 +0100 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Trevor Johnston To: Pine Discussion Forum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ed Greshko X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sent: 28 Oct 1999 00:04:14 GMT X-Sender: trevor@localhost.localdomain X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Ed Greshko wrote: > headers. There you will find the Lcc: headers. The "help" on this > item is as follows: Whoops - upon receiving this message, I'll make use of Lcc: rather than Bcc: ... I never come across that in the Pine manual. Just what I was looking for! Thanks, Trevor Johnston From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:34:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id BAA20308; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:34:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id BAA03859; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:34:31 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id BAA11515; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:33:34 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA24046 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:30:19 -0700 Received: from mail.latinmail.com (smtp.latinmail.com [209.2.135.53]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id BAA08681 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:30:18 -0700 Received: from latinmail.com [209.2.135.201] by mail.latinmail.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id AA9018F201C2; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:34:24 -0400 Message-Id: <199910280434863.SM00140@latinmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:29:50 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Fran Gutierrez To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine.conf X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi: In Solaris 2.7, with gcc, I want to compile the 4.20 pine with the two configuration files pine.conf and pine.conf.fixed in two diferent directorys (for others hosts), I go to .../pine4.20/pine/osdep and in file os-sol.h I make: ... /*----- System-wide config file ----------------------------------------*/ #define SYSTEM_PINERC "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf:/cnf/pine.conf" #define SYSTEM_PINERC_FIXED "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed:/cnf/pine.conf.fixed" ... and in .../pine4.20 I make: ./build gs5 but only work in /usr/local/lib , not in /cnf I am a novice, but ... what am i doing wrong?? 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Tu buscador latino -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:36:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id EAA25891; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id EAA18669; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:36:30 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id EAA13095; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:35:25 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA21828 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:32:26 -0700 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (root@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id EAA04192 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:32:24 -0700 Received: from swamp.bayern.net (gator@gator.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.148.15]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA29918 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:28:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from gator@localhost) by swamp.bayern.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA03846; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:46:15 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:46:15 +0200 (MEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Peter Daum To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PC-Pine in a multilingual environment? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: gator@gator.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I am employing PC-Pine (currently v4.10) in a University's public PC-Pool. Most people here write in German, English, or other "western" languages, which are covered by the ISO-8859-1 char-set, but there are also exchange students from other countries, who would like to communicate in their native languages. Is there any reasonably convenient way to occasionally read and write messages in other encodings (mostly KOI8-R and ISO-8859-5) in an environment that is still configured for ISO-8859-1? Actually, it would help if it was possible to set the window font to some other encoding (even though in the case of KOI8-R this would probably make the menus unreadable). Is there any way to do this? In the menu, there is only a choice between different "western" fonts. (One way that I already figured is to have people use the Windows "notepad" as an external editor both for reading and writing their email and set the font there to whatever they like - it should work, but I hope, there is a better way ...) thanks in advance for any suggestions, Peter -- __o Peter Daum _'\<_ - pgp messages welcome - ____(_)/(_) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:13:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA04108; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:13:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA21721; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:13:38 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id OAA25698; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:12:18 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA48614 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:07:07 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [129.250.30.40]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA07147 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:07:05 -0700 Received: from socha.net (IDENT:root@next3.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.224.32]) by kens.com (8.9.3/8.9.3-mod-for-majordomo) with ESMTP id RAA26412 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:07:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from robin@localhost) by socha.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA07239; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:06:51 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 28 Oct 1999 23:06:50 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine in a multilingual environment? In-Reply-To: Peter Daum's message of "Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:46:15 +0200 (MEST)" References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-URL: X-Face: #Z}0zkbqU,m`+S)^0R[.23L-o>U{UQ|(DvIqu^Bjw:po_g9;4JnT9tbn;QX$ga/LYS X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN * Peter Daum writes: > Is there any reasonably convenient way to occasionally read and write > messages in other encodings (mostly KOI8-R and ISO-8859-5) in an > environment that is still configured for ISO-8859-1? Using pine, this should be pretty difficult. It would most likely be much easier to use MEW oder Gnus within a MULE (MUlti-Lingual Emacs) XEmacs. It will happily grok all languages mentioned above. -- Robin S. Socha M.A. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:41:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA07706; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA26000; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:41:56 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id QAA10832; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:39:24 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA32178 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:35:09 -0700 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA02375 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:35:08 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA10453 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:35:07 -0700 Received: from localhost (hubert@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA26462 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:35:07 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:35:06 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine.conf In-Reply-To: <199910280434863.SM00140@latinmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Those are just single files. There is no allowance for a path of config files. You'll have to use a different binary on each system, or move the config files to the same location. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Fran Gutierrez wrote: > Hi: > In Solaris 2.7, with gcc, I want to compile the 4.20 pine with the two configuration files pine.conf and pine.conf.fixed in two diferent directorys > (for others hosts), I go to .../pine4.20/pine/osdep and in file os-sol.h I make: > ... > /*----- System-wide config file ----------------------------------------*/ > #define SYSTEM_PINERC "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf:/cnf/pine.conf" > #define SYSTEM_PINERC_FIXED "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed:/cnf/pine.conf.fixed" > ... > > and in .../pine4.20 I make: > ./build gs5 > > but only work in /usr/local/lib , not in /cnf > > I am a novice, but ... what am i doing wrong?? > Thanks for any help > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Encuéntralo en http://www.LatinGuia.com. Tu buscador latino > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:11:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA27751; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA16262; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:10:59 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA12575; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:09:26 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA15606 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:04:59 -0700 Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA32064 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:04:57 -0700 Received: from eastmail1.East.Sun.COM ([129.148.1.240]) by mercury.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29354; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from saphire.East.Sun.COM (saphire.East.Sun.COM [129.148.180.27]) by eastmail1.East.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id PAA27022; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:04:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (dfinberg@localhost) by saphire.East.Sun.COM (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23066; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:04:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:04:47 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: David Finberg - Sun High Performance Computing To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Bug with Sorting in Unix Pine - Possible Fix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Mailing List X-Cc: Pine Bug Reports X-Authentication-Warning: saphire.East.Sun.COM: dfinberg owned process doing -bs X-Sender: dfinberg@saphire X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have been having a problem sorting messages in Pine 4.20 on my Solaris 2.6 system. I think I have tracked down the problem. I noticed in Pine 4.10, the sorting was done in pine/mailindx.c, in sort_folder, line 4029, with else /* copy ulongs to array of longs */ for(i = g_sort_prog->nmsgs; i > 0; i--) msgmap->sort[i] = (long) sort[i-1]; In Pine 4.20, this has been moved to a callback routine, mail_parameters(NULL, SET_SORTRESULTS, (void *) sort_sort_callback); It looks like while this callback routine is properly called from mail_sort_msgs in imap/src/c-client/mail.c, the corresponding callback in mail_sort_cache was left off. When Pine does an imap_sort with no stream->scache, I drop into a call to mail_sort_cache which does nothing. Depending on your server, this might explain why no one else is having this problem. Adding in the callback, I have no problems with sorting. Any comments? Thanks a lot, David Finberg unsigned long *mail_sort_cache (MAILSTREAM *stream,SORTPGM *pgm,SORTCACHE **sc, long flags) { unsigned long i,*ret; /* pass 3: sort messages */ qsort ((void *) sc,pgm->nmsgs,sizeof (SORTCACHE *),mail_sort_compare); /* optional post sorting */ if (pgm->postsort) (*pgm->postsort) ((void *) sc); /* pass 4: return results */ ret = (unsigned long *) fs_get ((pgm->nmsgs+1) * sizeof (unsigned long)); if (flags & SE_UID) /* UID or msgno? */ for (i = 0; i < pgm->nmsgs; i++) ret[i] = mail_uid (stream,sc[i]->num); else for (i = 0; i < pgm->nmsgs; i++) ret[i] = sc[i]->num; ret[pgm->nmsgs] = 0; /* tie off message list */ /* Missing callback? */ if (mailsortresults) (*mailsortresults) (stream,ret,pgm->nmsgs); return ret; } -- Dave -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 04:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id EAA13435; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 04:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id EAA02563; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 04:10:21 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id EAA10565; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 04:09:20 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA50310 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 04:05:04 -0700 Received: from Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.166.20]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id EAA22384 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 04:05:03 -0700 Received: from localhost (chagemei@localhost) by Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA00678 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 13:05:02 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 13:05:02 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Christian Hagemeier To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: How do I use sending filters with Pine 4.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: chagemei@Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi! I am trying to use the sending-filters of Pine 4.20 (Linux) to sign Mails with GnuPG on request. I thought That it would be OK to enter a sending-filter under the configuration screen of PINE and then pine offers me the choice to execute one of those filters each time i am sending a mail. But Nothing happened after entering such a filter. Pine does nether ask if it should filter the actual mail nor does it filter it without asking. What did I wrong? How do I tell Pine to use those filters, configured under "sending-filters" (or so)??? Thanks for your nice help ;-). Christian -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ -----------------------------------------------------------------