From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 1 13:58:30 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 13:58:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id NAA27427 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 13:58:28 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 01 13:58:27 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA10796; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 13:58:26 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id NAA27160; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 13:58:03 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA76646 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 13:55:44 -0800 Received: from sttlpop5.sttl.uswest.net (sttlpop5.sttl.uswest.net [206.81.192.5]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id NAA25867 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 13:55:43 -0800 Received: (qmail 15000 invoked by alias); 1 Mar 2001 21:55:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 14579 invoked by uid 0); 1 Mar 2001 21:55:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.2?) (63.228.96.181) by sttlpop5.sttl.uswest.net with SMTP; 1 Mar 2001 21:55:26 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:00:46 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "David L. Miller" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Palm HotSync for Pine addressbooks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: shadoware@pop.sttl.uswest.net X-To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN For those who might be interested, I have set up a project on Asynchrony.com to develop a HotSync application to synchronize Palm contacts lists with the Pine addressbook. Please see https://www.asynchrony.com/project_home.jsp?projectid=1672 for more info. I have set it up as a non-free application, but I don't expect to have an exorbitant price on it... --DLM -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 1 14:16:27 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:16:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id OAA15419 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:16:25 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 01 14:16:24 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA11505; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:16:23 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id OAA25028; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:15:53 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA32880 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:14:39 -0800 Received: from sttlpop5.sttl.uswest.net (sttlpop5.sttl.uswest.net [206.81.192.5]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id OAA01936 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:14:38 -0800 Received: (qmail 10466 invoked by alias); 1 Mar 2001 22:14:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 9789 invoked by uid 0); 1 Mar 2001 22:14:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.2?) (63.228.96.181) by sttlpop5.sttl.uswest.net with SMTP; 1 Mar 2001 22:14:14 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:19:26 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "David L. Miller" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Palm HotSync for Pine addressbooks In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: shadoware@pop.sttl.uswest.net X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN P.S. If you would like to join Asynchrony to help with this or any other project, give my username, dlm990706, or follow this URL: http://www.asynchrony.com/index.jsp?ref=dlm990706 (yeah, I get a referral credit... ;-) --DLM On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, David L. Miller wrote: > For those who might be interested, I have set up a project on > Asynchrony.com to develop a HotSync application to synchronize Palm > contacts lists with the Pine addressbook. Please see > > https://www.asynchrony.com/project_home.jsp?projectid=1672 > > for more info. I have set it up as a non-free application, but I don't > expect to have an exorbitant price on it... > > --DLM > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 1 22:13:56 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:13:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id WAA28553 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:13:55 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 01 22:13:53 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA23397; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:13:53 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id WAA19480; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:13:30 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id WAA18762 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:10:50 -0800 Received: from web3201.mail.yahoo.com (web3201.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.198]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id WAA15603 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:10:50 -0800 Received: from [207.30.73.171] by web3201.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Mar 2001 22:10:50 PST Message-Id: <20010302061050.25338.qmail@web3201.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:10:50 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Marcus To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Needed Devel Libs for Compliation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm trying to compile Pine v4.33 for a linux box. It's a small old box that has limited resources so I'm trying to keep the number of packages I install on it down. I've tried a few times to compile Pine with all the options, lnx, slx, sl4, and sl5. I've even tried to compile the v4.21 that comes with my RH v6.2 distro but that does not work either. I am able to run Pine from an RPM install but I would like to tweak Pine a bit with some patches and whatnot so I'd really rather compile it. If anyone knows of a Devel Lib package that I might be missing or any other ideas I'd really appricate it. My current Debel Libs are: glibc-devel-2.1.3-15 ncurses-devel-5.0-11 krb5-devel-1.1.1-9 --mjz __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 2 04:58:58 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 04:58:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id EAA23578 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 04:58:56 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 02 04:58:54 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA18751; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 04:58:51 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id EAA33436; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 04:58:26 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id EAA40956 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 04:55:49 -0800 Received: from mail.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [193.74.243.200]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA22390 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 04:55:43 -0800 Received: from cactus.sonytel.be (cactus.sonytel.be [10.34.112.3]) by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA18010 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 13:55:37 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 13:55:37 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Murphy To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PC Pine - probably bug MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: NEWS - Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I tryed select some messages using for this keys ";ts", but PC Pine says that there is no message which fulfil this criteria. The problem is that this way always have some results. Even if is only one message this method always work with UNIX pine. Why this doesn't work with PC Pine? Regards Murphy -- --^----------------------------------------------------------------^-- ^ | ^ piotr@sonycom.com murph@free.polbox.pl ^ | ^ |/|\| |/|\| | Everything is possible - this is only a question of time | --|----------------------------------------------------------------|-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 2 06:44:31 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 06:44:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id GAA07723 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 06:44:29 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 02 06:44:28 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA20807; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 06:44:28 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id GAA19494; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 06:44:08 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id GAA99062 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 06:41:25 -0800 Received: from mail.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [193.74.243.200]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA00543 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 06:41:21 -0800 Received: from cactus.sonytel.be (cactus.sonytel.be [10.34.112.3]) by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA23176 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:41:10 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:41:10 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Murphy To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PC Pine doesn't want to accept empty files... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: NEWS - Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, Problem is why PC Pine desn't want to accept empty directory like a normal directory with pine internal data? This option works fine when I using UNIX Pine, but this doesn't work when I want to open this file in PC Pine. Why? Regards Murphy -- --^----------------------------------------------------------------^-- ^ | ^ piotr@sonycom.com murph@free.polbox.pl ^ | ^ |/|\| |/|\| | Everything is possible - this is only a question of time | --|----------------------------------------------------------------|-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 2 08:36:01 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:36:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id IAA11594 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:35:59 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 02 08:35:58 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA23946; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:35:58 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id IAA32158; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:35:30 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id IAA59146 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:32:56 -0800 Received: from mail.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [193.74.243.200]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA02279 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:32:52 -0800 Received: from cactus.sonytel.be (cactus.sonytel.be [10.34.112.3]) by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA28201; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:32:48 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:32:48 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Murphy To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: NEWS - Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Murphy X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I have the problem, because I don't know that I'm still subscribe on this news group, because I sended some e-mails to this group and I didn't got answer. How to check that I still exist on the subscribsion list? Please help me somebody (answer in priv.) Thanks in advice! Regards Murphy -- --^----------------------------------------------------------------^-- ^ | ^ piotr@sonycom.com murph@free.polbox.pl ^ | ^ |/|\| |/|\| | Everything is possible - this is only a question of time | --|----------------------------------------------------------------|-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 2 09:32:33 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:32:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA04638 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:32:31 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 02 09:32:30 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA25614; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:32:30 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA30494; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:32:01 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA90274 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:28:10 -0800 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA32048 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:28:10 -0800 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (mailhost2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id JAA31782 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:28:10 -0800 Received: from HUBERTW2K_NDC.nebula.washington.edu (D-140-142-110-89.dhcp2.washington.edu [140.142.110.89]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA29450 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:28:10 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:28:10 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC Pine - probably bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: hubert@cac.washington.edu X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Try running pine with the flag -d9 to produce lots of debugging and try the select command that doesn't work. Quit pine and have a look at the debug file (pinedebg.txt) to see if there are any clues. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 2 09:50:30 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:50:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA28591 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:50:27 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 02 09:50:26 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA26170; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:50:25 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA33486; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:49:47 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA40908 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:46:59 -0800 Received: from ns.mccme.ru (ns.mccme.ru [195.133.68.22]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA04226 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:46:56 -0800 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.mccme.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id UAA28686; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 20:22:11 +0300 Received: from localhost (IDENT:ivan@zephyrous.ru [127.0.0.1]) by zephyrous.ru (8.11.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id f22Hgeb02772; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 20:42:40 +0300 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 20:42:40 +0300 (MSK) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ivan Zakharyaschev To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Needed Devel Libs for Compliation In-Reply-To: <20010302061050.25338.qmail@web3201.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Marcus X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, Marcus! On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, Marcus wrote: > I'm trying to compile Pine v4.33 for a linux box. It's a small old box > that has limited resources > so I'm trying to keep the number of packages I install on it down. > I've tried a few times to > compile Pine with all the options, lnx, slx, sl4, and sl5. I've even > tried to compile the v4.21 > that comes with my RH v6.2 distro but that does not work either. > I am able to run Pine from an RPM install but I would like to tweak > Pine a bit with some patches > and whatnot so I'd really rather compile it. If anyone knows of a > Devel Lib package that I might > be missing or any other ideas I'd really appricate it. > > My current Debel Libs are: > > glibc-devel-2.1.3-15 > ncurses-devel-5.0-11 > krb5-devel-1.1.1-9 These are autogenerated when building pine 4.33 on Linux-Mandrake RE system (that's not pure Mandrake or RedHat): # Automatically added by buildreq on Fri Feb 02 2001 BuildRequires: gpm-lib lynx mailcap ncurses-devel openssl openssl-devel pam-devel perl My commenst to the list: openssl{,-devel} is needed if you build Pine with SSL support; lynx is used for generating some docs; perl is spec-file specific; we get the dependency on pam when the imap/c-client part of the sources is built, another name for pam-devel package could also be libpam-devel (or whatever else, of course). Best regards, Ivan Z. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 2 12:31:26 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:31:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id MAA11886 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:31:25 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 02 12:31:23 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA11296; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:31:23 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA24184; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:30:54 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA117882 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:28:11 -0800 Received: from tron.admin.cto.netsol.com (h240.s254.netsol.com [216.168.254.240]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA30311 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:28:11 -0800 Received: from localhost (raldi@localhost) by tron.admin.cto.netsol.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f22KS4W21453 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:28:04 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:28:04 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mike Schiraldi To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: "No more incoming folders" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Authentication-Warning: tron.admin.cto.netsol.com: raldi owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I use procmail to put my mail in different files for different mailing lists. In Pine, i have enable-incoming-folders set and i've added the appropriate items to my Incoming-Folders collection. However, if i press Tab in INBOX, it says "No more incoming folders" despite the fact that there are more incoming folders, and if i manually go into them, i can clearly see that they have new messages in them. I browsed the archives for this list and found three occassions where this same question was asked, but unfortunately, there was no solution posted. Is there something i may have overlooked? Thanks. Here are the links to the aforementioned messages, in case they might have phrased the problem more clearly: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/1996.04/msg00320.html http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/1996.08/msg00000.html http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/1997.06/msg00083.html BTW, i'm using 4.33. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 2 23:06:30 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 23:06:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id XAA27949 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 23:06:24 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 02 23:06:22 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA14468; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 23:06:18 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id XAA27378; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 23:05:46 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id XAA132298 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 23:02:26 -0800 Received: from cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in (cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.73.78]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA22018 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 23:02:23 -0800 Received: from localhost (mohit@localhost) by cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2378wi07684 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:39:08 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:38:57 +0530 (IST) Reply-To: Pine Discussion Forum Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mohit Agarwal To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: "No more incoming folders" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Mike Schiraldi wrote on pine-info list on 2001-03-02 at 15:28 -0500: > I use procmail to put my mail in different files for different mailing > lists. In Pine, i have enable-incoming-folders set and i've added the > appropriate items to my Incoming-Folders collection. However, if i press > Tab in INBOX, it says "No more incoming folders" despite the fact that > there are more incoming folders, and if i manually go into them, i can > clearly see that they have new messages in them. Using the filtering provided by Pine (press M S R F) to sort your mails. Procmail sorts the mails as and when those are delivered; pine does so when you open a pine session. In case of sorting using procmail, pine doesn't come to know about what messages have been filtered and hence you get to see `No more...'. -- Mohit Agarwal --------------------------------------------------------------------------- GPG Public Key: http://cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in/~mohit/mohit.gpg From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 3 02:39:44 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 02:39:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id CAA02109 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 02:39:40 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 03 02:39:39 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA18058; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 02:39:38 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id CAA29132; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 02:39:22 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id CAA77032 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 02:38:21 -0800 Received: from nebraska.domeij.org (IDENT:root@as2-5-4.va.g.bonet.se [194.236.7.151]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA22222 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 02:38:19 -0800 Received: from river.domeij.org (river.domeij.org [192.168.0.2]) by nebraska.domeij.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09340 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:37:31 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:38:04 +0100 (W. Europe Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Martin Domeij To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: "No more incoming folders" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: martin@nebraska X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN At 12:38 Today Mohit Agarwal wrote: > Using the filtering provided by Pine (press M S R F) to sort your mails. > Procmail sorts the mails as and when those are delivered; pine does so > when you open a pine session. In case of sorting using procmail, pine > doesn't come to know about what messages have been filtered and hence you > get to see `No more...'. Hm... I filter with procmail, and Pine has worked fine with that since.. uh, since I incoming-folders first came around I think. /Martin Keep things as recursive as possible, but not recursiver. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 3 04:06:37 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 04:06:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id EAA28022 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 04:06:35 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 03 04:06:33 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA32015; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 04:06:32 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id EAA21028; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 04:06:10 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id EAA96758 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 04:05:21 -0800 Received: from cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in (IDENT:root@cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.73.78]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA08537 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 04:05:15 -0800 Received: from localhost (mohit@localhost) by cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f23CCEM09228 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:42:18 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:42:14 +0530 (IST) Reply-To: Pine Discussion Forum Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mohit Agarwal To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: "No more incoming folders" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Martin Domeij wrote on pine-info list today at 11:38 +0100: > Hm... I filter with procmail, and Pine has worked fine with that since.. > uh, since I incoming-folders first came around I think. Sorry, my mistake.. Incoming folders will work fine when filtering with procmail. But if have *only* those new mails that have been sorted using procmail, then you won't get the message at login time saying `You have new mail'. By the way, I'm not sure whether a similar thing exists on a windows machine. -- Mohit Agarwal --------------------------------------------------------------------------- GPG Public Key: http://cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in/~mohit/mohit.gpg From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 3 04:32:30 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 04:32:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id EAA24550 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 04:32:28 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 03 04:32:27 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA32481; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 04:32:26 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id EAA32512; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 04:32:11 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id EAA126546 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 04:31:22 -0800 Received: from nebraska.domeij.org (IDENT:root@as2-5-4.va.g.bonet.se [194.236.7.151]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA06532 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 04:31:18 -0800 Received: from river.domeij.org (river.domeij.org [192.168.0.2]) by nebraska.domeij.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09440 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 13:30:28 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 13:31:02 +0100 (W. Europe Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Martin Domeij To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: "No more incoming folders" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: martin@nebraska X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN At 17:42 Today Mohit Agarwal wrote: > Sorry, my mistake.. Incoming folders will work fine when filtering with > procmail. But if have *only* those new mails that have been sorted using > procmail, then you won't get the message at login time saying `You have > new mail'. No, of course not, but that has nothing to do with pine. /Martin Keep things as recursive as possible, but not recursiver. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 3 04:59:05 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 04:59:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id EAA12229 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 04:59:03 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 03 04:59:01 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA00417; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 04:59:01 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id EAA33842; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 04:58:35 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id EAA25916 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 04:57:58 -0800 Received: from sgi04-e.std.com (sgi04-e.std.com [199.172.62.134]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA29145 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 04:57:57 -0800 Received: from world.std.com (world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by sgi04-e.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA1549752 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 07:57:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from world.std.com (world.std.com [192.74.137.5]) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19315 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 07:57:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 07:57:56 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mike Lambert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: "No more incoming folders" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Mike Schiraldi wrote: > I use procmail to put my mail in different files for different mailing > lists. In Pine, i have enable-incoming-folders set and i've added the > appropriate items to my Incoming-Folders collection. However, if i press > Tab in INBOX, it says "No more incoming folders" despite the fact that > there are more incoming folders, and if i manually go into them, i can > clearly see that they have new messages in them. I have been doing this with pine since the incoming-folder feature was created and am running 4.33 currently. In order for the tab key to work for incoming forlders, pine has to know about them via the .pinerc file. Knowing about them is different from merely seeing them in the "incoming folders" window. For example, my .procmailrc has the following settings (comments deleted for brevity): # Updated by Pine(tm) 4.21, copyright 1989-1999 University of Washington. # # Pine configuration file -- customize as needed. inbox-path=/var/mail/mkl ###################### Collections, Folders, and Files ##################### incoming-folders="nedod" Mail/IN.nedod, "bmwmc" Mail/IN.bmwmc, "oilheads" Mail/IN.oilheads, "pine" Mail/IN.pine, "bblisa" Mail/IN.bblisa, block Mail/IN.block, spam Mail/IN.spam, trash Mail/IN.trash folder-collections=Mail/archive/[] mail-directory=Mail/ ############################### Preferences ################################ feature-list= enable-incoming-folders, hth, -- Mike Lambert /|\ /\ \ | / ^.^ ___o&o________/ \ \^^______ ` _---_ ' ___________ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 3 05:10:30 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 05:10:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id FAA10643 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 05:10:28 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 03 05:10:27 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA20915; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 05:10:27 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id FAA31532; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 05:10:08 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id FAA22326 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 05:09:35 -0800 Received: from nebraska.domeij.org (IDENT:root@as2-5-4.va.g.bonet.se [194.236.7.151]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA08111 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 05:09:33 -0800 Received: from river.domeij.org (river.domeij.org [192.168.0.2]) by nebraska.domeij.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09478; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 14:08:43 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 14:09:17 +0100 (W. Europe Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Martin Domeij To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: "No more incoming folders" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Schiraldi X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: martin@nebraska X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN At 15:28 Yesterday Mike Schiraldi wrote: > I use procmail to put my mail in different files for different mailing > lists. In Pine, i have enable-incoming-folders set and i've added the > appropriate items to my Incoming-Folders collection. However, if i press > Tab in INBOX, it says "No more incoming folders" despite the fact that > there are more incoming folders, and if i manually go into them, i can > clearly see that they have new messages in them. Have you opened the folder before? What I'm getting at is this: If I'm in my inbox and press tab, it will take me to the next incoming folder. If I from there go back to my inbox without actually reading the messages in it, tab won't take me back to that folder until there is another new message in it, although it clearly still has messages with the 'N'-flag intact in it. I'm not sure how this works (hopefully someone does :)), but it seems that it doesn't check for unread messages as much as folders that hasn't been opened since last altered or something of the sort. Which is rather preferable I think; I mean, I probably had a reason for not reading those messages in the incoming folder. /Martin Keep things as recursive as possible, but not recursiver. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 4 00:33:31 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 00:33:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id AAA18541 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 00:33:29 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 04 00:33:28 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA07700; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 00:33:27 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id AAA10578; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 00:33:07 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id AAA161134 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 00:30:57 -0800 Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (root@proxy2.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA18075 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 00:30:56 -0800 Received: from localhost (root@shell13.ba.best.com [206.184.139.144]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id AAA21328 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 00:29:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 08:31:29 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Bug: Signature & Initialize settings using role MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Technical Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: NULL@no X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN My Pine role includes this: Initialize settings using role : pub-base Set From = Set Reply-To = Set Fcc = sent-pine-current Set LiteralSig = Set Signature = Set Template = Set Other Hdrs = When I compose a message using my Pine role, the From header is set correctly but the Signature (sig4pub) is not. This used to work so it seems to be a new bug. Thanks, ^X, Nancy -- For Pine links, see http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink =-- Sent via PINE 4.33: Internet News & Email for Win/Unix --= -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 4 01:04:31 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 01:04:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id BAA21735 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 01:04:29 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 04 01:04:27 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA20403; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 01:04:27 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id BAA24076; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 01:04:08 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id BAA160570 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 01:03:28 -0800 Received: from web3206.mail.yahoo.com (web3206.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.203]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id BAA19229 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 01:03:27 -0800 Received: from [207.30.73.104] by web3206.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 01:03:27 PST Message-Id: <20010304090327.6748.qmail@web3206.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 01:03:27 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Marcus To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Still can't compile... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-To: Pine-Info X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Well I added gpm-devel even though I don't use a mouse with this box, still can't compile. When I use ./build lnx nothing compiles however when I use ./build slx the imapd and mtest binaries are compiled. Below is a bit of what happens at the end of the build. If anyone knows what might be going on I'd appricate it. Again, these are the devel packages I have installed on the box: gpm-devel-1.18.1-7 glibc-devel-2.1.3-15 ncurses-devel-5.0-11 krb5-devel-1.1.1-9 And here is what the build says before it finishes: ../pico/libpico.a(attach.o): In function `ParseAttach': /root/tmp/pine4.33/pico/attach.c:760: undefined reference to `compresspath' /root/tmp/pine4.33/pico/attach.c:770: undefined reference to `fixpath' /root/tmp/pine4.33/pico/attach.c:771: undefined reference to `fexist' /root/tmp/pine4.33/pico/attach.c:772: undefined reference to `fioperr' ../pico/libpico.a(attach.o): In function `NewAttach': /root/tmp/pine4.33/pico/attach.c:1096: undefined reference to `ttresize' /root/tmp/pine4.33/pico/attach.c:1097: undefined reference to `picosigs' ../pico/libpico.a(bind.o): In function `whelp': /root/tmp/pine4.33/pico/bind.c:137: undefined reference to `term' /root/tmp/pine4.33/pico/bind.c:162: undefined reference to `ttresize' /root/tmp/pine4.33/pico/bind.c:163: undefined reference to `picosigs' /root/tmp/pine4.33/pico/bind.c:172: undefined reference to `term' /root/tmp/pine4.33/pico/bind.c:174: undefined reference to `term' /root/tmp/pine4.33/pico/bind.c:180: undefined reference to `term' ../pico/libpico.a(bind.o): In function `wscrollw': /root/tmp/pine4.33/pico/bind.c:266: undefined reference to `term' /root/tmp/pine4.33/pico/bind.c:268: undefined reference to `GetKey' /root/tmp/pine4.33/pico/bind.c:286: undefined reference to `term' /root/tmp/pine4.33/pico/bind.c:297: undefined reference to `term' /root/tmp/pine4.33/pico/bind.c:305: undefined reference to `term' /root/tmp/pine4.33/pico/bind.c:312: undefined reference to `term' /root/tmp/pine4.33/pico/bind.c:324: undefined reference to `term' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [pine] Error 1 Links to executables are in bin directory: size: bin/pine: No such file or directory text data bss dec hex filename 604164 7572 2176 613912 95e18 bin/mtest 639176 7696 9460 656332 a03cc bin/imapd size: bin/pico: No such file or directory size: bin/pilot: No such file or directory Done [root@max pine4.33]# ls bin imapd mtest [root@max pine4.33]# --mjz __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 4 07:07:31 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:07:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id HAA06178 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:07:29 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 04 07:07:27 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA14757; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:07:27 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id HAA31508; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:07:08 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id HAA40844 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:05:44 -0800 Received: from ns.shellworld.net (ns.shellworld.net [64.29.16.176]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA22672 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:05:43 -0800 Received: from localhost (ka3agm@localhost) by ns.shellworld.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05897 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:05:39 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:05:39 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Walt Smith To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Is this a bug? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Running V. 4.33 and I receive this identical behavior whether running the pre-compiled binary from the FTP site or the version compiled by my ISP. If the mailbox is empty, Pine appears to take a _long_ time to load, then displays the error message below. I have a full level 9 debug output file if anybody wants to see it ... write me offline. Thanks for any thoughts. 09:49:41.752963 Close - saved inbox state: max 0 09:49:41.753010 busy_alarm(1, Opening "m@ns.shellworld.net", (nil), 1) 09:49:41.753075 q_status_message(Opening "m@ns.shellworld.net" ) 09:49:41.753248 IMAP 09:49:41 3/4 mm_log ERROR: Can't open mailbox mail/m@ns.shellworld.net: no such mailbox 09:49:41.753326 q_status_message(Can't open mailbox mail/m@ns.shellworld.) 09:49:41.753373 Opened folder (nil) "nil" (context: "mail/%s") -- Walt Smith - Raleigh, NC ka3agm@ns.shellworld.net -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 5 07:46:46 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 07:46:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id HAA10003 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 07:46:44 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 05 07:46:43 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA20155; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 07:46:43 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id HAA21184; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 07:46:15 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id HAA109124 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 07:44:25 -0800 Received: from tron.admin.cto.netsol.com (h240.s254.netsol.com [216.168.254.240]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA14907 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 07:44:25 -0800 Received: from localhost (raldi@localhost) by tron.admin.cto.netsol.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f25FiLR01053 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:44:21 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:44:21 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mike Schiraldi To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: "No more incoming folders" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: tron.admin.cto.netsol.com: raldi owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > If I'm in my inbox and press tab, it will take me to the next incoming > folder. If I from there go back to my inbox without actually reading the > messages in it, tab won't take me back to that folder until there is > another new message in it, although it clearly still has messages with the > 'N'-flag intact in it. Bingo. I realize now that that's exactly the problem i'm having. > sort. Which is rather preferable I think; I mean, I probably had a reason > for not reading those messages in the incoming folder. I'm not so sure. I'd suggest this be a config option. At the very least it should be mentioned in the docs. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 5 09:08:04 2001 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:08:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA04795 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:08:03 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 05 09:08:02 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA22763; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:08:01 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA26904; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:07:31 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA99034 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:06:33 -0800 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA21862 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:06:33 -0800 Received: from smtp1.cac.washington.edu (smtp1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.12]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id JAA10721 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:06:33 -0800 Received: from HUBERTW2K_NDC.nebula.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated) by smtp1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.1+UW00.11) with ESMTP id f25H6Vg28378 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:06:32 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:06:25 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Bug: Signature & Initialize settings using role In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: hubert@cac.washington.edu X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I think the Empty Value in LiteralSig is overriding the Signature. Empty Value means set it to nothing. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Nancy McGough wrote: > My Pine role includes this: > > Initialize settings using role : pub-base > Set From = > Set Reply-To = > Set Fcc = sent-pine-current > Set LiteralSig = > Set Signature = > Set Template = > Set Other Hdrs = > > > When I compose a message using my Pine role, the From header is > set correctly but the Signature (sig4pub) is not. This used to > work so it seems to be a new bug. > > Thanks, > ^X, > Nancy > > From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:36:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA31753 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:36:40 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 05 09:36:39 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA11718; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:36:34 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA33792; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:36:03 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA70700 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:35:11 -0800 Received: from pump3.york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA12417 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:35:10 -0800 Received: from pippin.york.ac.uk (pippin.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.9]) by pump3.york.ac.uk (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f25HZ6V04630; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:35:06 GMT Message-Id: <1757370.3192802507@pippin.york.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 17:35:07 -0000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mike Brudenell To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: "No more incoming folders" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Mike Schiraldi X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Greetings - I hope I'm not too out of date with the information below (we're lagging a few releases behind actuality at the moment!) ... --On Monday, March 5, 2001 10:44 am -0500 Mike Schiraldi wrote: >> If I'm in my inbox and press tab, it will take me to the next incoming >> folder. If I from there go back to my inbox without actually reading the >> messages in it, tab won't take me back to that folder until there is >> another new message in it, although it clearly still has messages with >> the 'N'-flag intact in it. > > Bingo. I realize now that that's exactly the problem i'm having. Sounds like the old confusion about "What does 'New' mean?" ... Different people have different interpretations as to what "New" means. To some people a "New" message is one that hasn't been read (which includes a message which has been read and then re-flagged as being unread). The most obvious means of such a "New" message appearing is a mail delivery agent adding a newly arriving message to a folder. A less obvious one is someone going back to a previously-read message and changing its status flag to say it has been unread. To other people a "New" message is one that has arrived in a mail folder since it was last opened/polled (even if that new message had been read previously and simply re-saved to this folder). Again the most obvious cause of such a message appearing in a folder is a brand new one arriving through the delivery agent. A less obvious cause is manually copying any message (even a "read" one!) from one folder to another: in the target folder the message might well be already-read but still recently-arrived! In some sense either interpretation is valid. Hence it is often less confusing to talk about "Seen/Unseen" and "Recent(ly arrived)" messages. The former are tracked with IMAP's "Seen" message flag (which is under the control of the user), and the latter by IMAP's "Recent" flag (which isn't). The unfortunate thing is that Pine displays Unseen messages with the "N" flag next to them in the index screens. This leads people to equate Unseen and New. So where does that take us? Pine displays Unseen messages (ie, those without the IMAP "Seen" flag set) marked with an "N" in its index screens. People read this as meaning "New". When Pine talks about "incoming folders" people assume that the Tab key will check for "New" messages IN the folder. Actually it is checkong for messages new TO the folder: ie, those that are "recently arrived", as denoted by having the IMAP "Recent" flag set. You can see where the idea is coming from: 0. A newly arrived message appears in one of your incoming folders. Assume this folder is called "quz". 1. Pine checks your subsequent incoming folders and spots the newly arrived ("Recent") message has appeared in folder "quz". It offers you the chance to look at the folder and you do so. 2. You see the message summary in the Index and decide not to bother with it right now. You return to the INBOX. 3. For subsequent checks it is useful to learn about any further messages that newly arrive in "quz" without being bothered about the existence of the earlier message (which you know about and declined to read at the time). When any such _more_ messages arrive a subsequent poll will detect them (only) and alert you, so you can again check the Index and decide whether to read/deal with them there and then. >From the point of view of someone _monitoring_ mail folders (for newly arriving mail) this behaviour is probably exactly what they want. However for someone wanting to _maintain_ mail folders (to go back and read/deal with messages they chose not to at the time of first notification) then it probably _isn't_ what they want ... they'd prefer it to track the status of the "Seen" flag rather than the "Recent" flag. >> sort. Which is rather preferable I think; I mean, I probably had a reason >> for not reading those messages in the incoming folder. > > I'm not so sure. I'd suggest this be a config option. At the very least it > should be mentioned in the docs. One solution is to explain clearly in the documentation/built-in help about the subtle difference between Seen/Unseen and Recent messages, which is used for checking incoming mail folders, and why. Another would be to provide a configuration option. For example Mulberry is very flexible and enables you to define a "New" message as being one of: * A message that is Unseen * A message that is Recent * A message that is Recent AND Unseen (the latter avoids false "Recent-only" positives caused by copying an already-read message to a monitored mailbox ... such a message is Recent but Seen) However I seem to recall there is, as ever, a penalty. I _think_ I'm right in saying that the number of Recent messages can be obtained quickly and cheaply with IMAP's EXAMINE command, but that to check for Unseen messages requires the mailbox be opened and parsed (which usually is relatively expensive). [Disclaimer: This applies to the pre-IMAP 2000 version of the U. Washington IMAP server. If things have changed in IMAP 2000 onwards then do please someone correct me so I know for next time!] Cheers, Mike B-) -- The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York Yo10 5DD, UK Tel:+44-1904-433811 FAX:+44-1904-433740 Web: http://www-users.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:44:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id KAA08798 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:44:42 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 05 10:44:39 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA14519; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:44:39 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id KAA31770; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:43:45 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id KAA136420 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:32:48 -0800 Received: from tron.admin.cto.netsol.com (h240.s254.netsol.com [216.168.254.240]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA26846 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:32:48 -0800 Received: from localhost (raldi@localhost) by tron.admin.cto.netsol.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f25IWix01416 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:32:44 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:32:44 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mike Schiraldi To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: "No more incoming folders" In-Reply-To: <1757370.3192802507@pippin.york.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: tron.admin.cto.netsol.com: raldi owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > When Pine talks about "incoming folders" people assume that the Tab key > will check for "New" messages IN the folder. Actually it is checkong for > messages new TO the folder: ie, those that are "recently arrived", as > denoted by having the IMAP "Recent" flag set. Inconsistency alert! I'm in a folder which has two messages. Both are Unseen. Neither is Recent. I'm on message one. I press Tab. It takes me to message two, the next Unseen message. I'm in folder foo with one message. I also have another incoming folder, bar, with one message. Both messages are Unseen. Neither is Recent. I press Tab. Nothing happens. It's looking for the next Recent message. > However for someone wanting to _maintain_ mail folders (to go back and > read/deal with messages they chose not to at the time of first > notification) then it probably _isn't_ what they want ... they'd prefer it > to track the status of the "Seen" flag rather than the "Recent" flag. That's right. I'm on a lot of mailing lists, and first thing in the morning, i want to dart through them, looking for interesting subject lines. Later, i'll want to glance at any messages i've skipped the first time, and there's no easy way i can find to zip through all Unseen messages across multiple folders. > I _think_ I'm right in saying that the number of Recent messages can be > obtained quickly and cheaply with IMAP's EXAMINE command, but that to check > for Unseen messages requires the mailbox be opened and parsed (which > usually is relatively expensive). Yeah, but i've got Pine running locally, mailboxes stored locally, and 800 MHz all to myself. :) From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:45:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id MAA06775 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:45:37 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 05 12:45:35 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA18758; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:45:35 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA27328; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:45:14 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA81626 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:44:04 -0800 Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA26812 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:44:04 -0800 Received: (qmail 26304 invoked by uid 1828); 5 Mar 2001 20:44:03 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:44:03 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Whereis-^X not respecting auto-zoom-in MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I forget if I mentioned this before. on pine 4.33, I have the auto-zoom-after-select turned on. However, this preference isn't followed when I use the w^X shortcut. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:49:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id MAA30949 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:49:38 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 05 12:49:36 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA18909; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:49:35 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA21348; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:49:09 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA111312 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:48:21 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA27923 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:48:20 -0800 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f25KmJ9191278; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:48:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:48:19 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Whereis-^X not respecting auto-zoom-in In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Matt Ackeret X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Matt Ackeret (mattack@area.com) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) I forget if I mentioned this before. :) :) on pine 4.33, I have the auto-zoom-after-select turned on. :) :) However, this preference isn't followed when I use the :) w^X :) shortcut. I just reported this a few days ago (on a privfate note) to the Pine team, I have not received an answer yet, I'll let you know if I receive a private answer to it or maybe we'll be lucky ans one will be posted here. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:17:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id NAA22063 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:17:29 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 05 13:17:28 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA31352; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:17:27 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id NAA19496; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:16:48 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA121912 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:07:20 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA32457 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:07:19 -0800 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f25L7D9195520; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:07:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:07:13 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: "No more incoming folders" In-Reply-To: <1757370.3192802507@pippin.york.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Brudenell X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Mike Brudenell (pmb1@york.ac.uk) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) Sounds like the old confusion about "What does 'New' mean?" ... When Pine communicates with the server, it asks for the status of the messages according to the server. The server reports for "unseen" and "recent" messages. A message that is "recent" and "unseen" is what is called "New" (N), a message which is "not recent" and "unseen" is called "unread" (U). Depending on how you display your index in Pine you can have messages that should be marked with a "U" seen as if they are marked with a "N". This is the default behavior of Pine. If you want to change this behavior you should define your index-format to be: IMAPSTATUS MSGNO DATE FROMORTO(35%) SIZE SUBJECT(65%) this will show you more fields, than "N" and " ", in particular you can have the status be one of the four following fields: "N" - New, the message was not in the folder the last time it was opened "R" - Read, the message was not in the folder the last time it was opened and you read the message (or opened it at least) "U" - Unread, the message was in the folder the last time you opened it, and you did not read it (this is the "N" you normally see in Pine) " " - Read, the messge was there the last time you opened it and you just opened it. :) One solution is to explain clearly in the documentation/built-in help about :) the subtle difference between Seen/Unseen and Recent messages, which is :) used for checking incoming mail folders, and why. All this information is explained in the definition of the IMAPSTATUS token, which can be read online from the help of the "index-format" configuration variable. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:21:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id NAA23414 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:21:22 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 05 13:21:21 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA31466; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:21:20 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id NAA31294; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:20:35 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA48244 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:09:44 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA19765 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:09:43 -0800 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f25L9g9195391; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:09:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:09:42 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: "No more incoming folders" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Schiraldi X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Mike Schiraldi (raldi@research.netsol.com) wrote in the pine-info list...: :) Inconsistency alert! :) :) I'm in a folder which has two messages. Both are Unseen. Neither is :) Recent. I'm on message one. I press Tab. It takes me to message two, the :) next Unseen message. :) :) I'm in folder foo with one message. I also have another incoming folder, :) bar, with one message. Both messages are Unseen. Neither is Recent. I :) press Tab. Nothing happens. It's looking for the next Recent message. I do not know what the inconsistency here is, this is exactly how it is supposed to work. You probably have tab set up to work so that if there are no more new messages to scan in the folder, then it looks for in the next one. This is normal. Remember that new is not the same as unseen. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:22:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id NAA23684 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:22:54 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 05 13:22:53 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA20040; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:22:52 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id NAA26630; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:22:14 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA67814 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:17:15 -0800 Received: from tron.admin.cto.netsol.com (h240.s254.netsol.com [216.168.254.240]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA32390 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:17:14 -0800 Received: from localhost (raldi@localhost) by tron.admin.cto.netsol.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f25LHBd02431 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:17:11 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:17:11 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mike Schiraldi To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: "No more incoming folders" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: tron.admin.cto.netsol.com: raldi owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > I do not know what the inconsistency here is, this is exactly how it is > supposed to work. You probably have tab set up to work so that if there > are no more new messages to scan in the folder, then it looks for in the > next one. This is normal. Remember that new is not the same as unseen. In the first scenario, pressing Tab takes you to the next Unseen message. In the second, it takes you to the next Recent message. Or, to put it another way, pressing Tab takes you to the next Unseen message in the current folder if one exists. If not, it takes you to the next Recent message in the set of incoming folders. IMHO, it should either take you to the next Unseen message or take you to the next Recent message, but certainly not one or the other, depending on whether said message is in the current folder or not. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:56:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id NAA15844 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:55:59 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 05 13:55:57 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA21324; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:55:56 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id NAA26666; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:55:13 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA65056 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:52:49 -0800 Received: from moose.erie.net (moose.erie.net [208.138.204.11]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA13051 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:52:47 -0800 Received: from hermit.erie.net (IDENT:hermit@dsl282.erie.net [63.160.33.81]) by moose.erie.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f25LphM19683 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:51:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:51:47 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Dick Williams To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: user-domain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi - I get an interesting error in Pine, usually when I call it up. It reads: *cannot have *@* in hermit@erie.net user-domain* or something along those lines. In the config area I have my *user-domain* set as follows: hermit@erie.net. What should it be? I can send and receive email just fine. Thanks, Dick -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:41:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id OAA25643 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:41:43 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 05 14:41:42 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA01974; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:41:41 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id OAA32238; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:41:18 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA17122 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:30:28 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA07463 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:30:27 -0800 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f25MUQ9228170; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:30:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:30:26 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: "No more incoming folders" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Schiraldi X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Mike Schiraldi (raldi@research.netsol.com) wrote in the pine-info list...: :) In the first scenario, pressing Tab takes you to the next Unseen message. :) In the second, it takes you to the next Recent message. Read the help associated to [X] auto-open-next-unread you can find there the description of the behavior you are complaining about. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:42:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id OAA15426 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:42:34 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 05 14:42:33 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA23060; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:42:32 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id OAA30624; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:42:03 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA49090 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:32:15 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA18732 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:32:14 -0800 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f25MWC9228141; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:32:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:32:12 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: user-domain In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Dick Williams X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Dick Williams (hermit@erie.net) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) I get an interesting error in Pine, usually when I call it up. It reads: :) *cannot have *@* in hermit@erie.net user-domain* or something along those :) lines. In the config area I have my *user-domain* set as follows: :) hermit@erie.net. What should it be? I can send and receive email just :) fine. Dick, The user-domain is different from the "user e-mail address". The domain is the part of your e-mail address that comes after the "@" sign, so in your case is "erie.net". -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:43:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id OAA16010 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:43:30 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 05 14:43:29 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA02021; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:43:28 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id OAA18854; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:43:00 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA90954 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:37:32 -0800 Received: from tron.admin.cto.netsol.com (h240.s254.netsol.com [216.168.254.240]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA23590 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:37:31 -0800 Received: from localhost (raldi@localhost) by tron.admin.cto.netsol.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f25MbRx02670 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:37:27 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:37:27 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mike Schiraldi To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: "No more incoming folders" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: tron.admin.cto.netsol.com: raldi owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > Read the help associated to > > [X] auto-open-next-unread > > you can find there the description of the behavior you are complaining > about. I'm afraid i don't see what you're talking about. It says, in part: When the TAB (Next New) key is pressed, and there are no more unseen messages in the current (incoming message or news) folder, Pine will search the list of folders in the current collection for one containing New or Recent (new since the last time the folder was opened) messages. If "New or Recent" means "Unseen or Recent", the documentation is incorrect, because that's not the way Pine behaves. If "New or Recent" means "Recent", Pine is inconsistent. Pressing Tab takes you to the next message that has Quality X. Quality X means "Unseen" if the message is in your current folder, and it means "Recent" if the message is in a different incoming folder. This is inconsistent. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:22:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id PAA31303 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:22:04 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 05 15:22:03 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA03261; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:22:02 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id PAA31196; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:21:16 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id PAA65034 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:19:42 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA20431 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:19:42 -0800 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f25NJf9233347; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:19:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:19:41 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: "No more incoming folders" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Schiraldi X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Mike Schiraldi (raldi@research.netsol.com) wrote in the pine-info list...: :) I'm afraid i don't see what you're talking about. It says, in part: :) :) When the TAB (Next New) key is pressed, and there are no more unseen :) messages in the current (incoming message or news) folder, Pine will :) search the list of folders in the current collection for one containing :) New or Recent (new since the last time the folder was opened) messages. Take a look at the documentation of: [X] tab-visits-next-new-message-only this is the help for it: This feature affects Pine's behavior when using the TAB key to move from one message to the next. Pine's usual behavior is to select the next unread message or message flagged as "Important". Setting this feature causes Pine to skip the messages flagged as important, and select unread messages exclusively. Tab behavior when there are no new messages left to select remains unchanged. In another words, if you press the "Tab" key and there is an unseen message that follows that message, then pressing TAB will take you there. On the other hand, if you press the TAB key in the last unread message and [X] auto-open-next-unread is set, then the behavior is that you will be sent to the next folder that contains New or Recent messages (meaning messages that were not there the last time the folder was opened, this is what the last line of the paragraph that I quoted from your message says. I do not see any inconsistency in the documentation, rather I see that you are trying to interpret Pine's behavior as a behavior that relates to "New messages", whatever be the meaning of "New". As it is clear from above, the behavior of TAB is for "unseen" messages when you are in the folder (and this is documented) and is for "recent" when you skip to another folder, and this is also documented. I do not disagree with the idea that one could have a key for checking for messages with the quality "X", but this is not what Tab does, and the documentation shows that very clearly. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:34:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id QAA23486 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:34:39 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 05 16:34:38 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA26382; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:34:34 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id QAA30952; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:34:00 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id QAA65674 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:31:52 -0800 Received: from pt-quorum.com (pt-quorum.com [209.10.167.210]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA19701 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:31:51 -0800 Received: from p089-237.netc.pt ([213.30.47.89]) by pt-quorum.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA29138 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:28:02 GMT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:38:09 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nuno Teixeira To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Precommand on Pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello to all, I'd like to know if Pine has something like a precommand to execute a program, before it checks the new email. I have experiment this feature with KMail (KDE) with fetchmail. There is possible to execute first fetchmail before Pine checks my local email? I know that I can run fetchmail in daemon mode, but I have a dialup connection and I don't have a fulltime connection. Thanks very much to all subscribers and developers. This is the best and complete email program that i ever used. Bye, - -- Nuno Teixeira Dir. T=E9cnico pt-quorum.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQA/AwUBOqQxeI8HcgpjoE/HEQKDsgCg8oWZatRnwg+T7oVFb9daK/R/9OYAn3M6 KB+149pD8PQyjsg71N4Opkgw =3DQ8QI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:45:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id QAA29512 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:45:50 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 05 16:45:48 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA05615; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:45:48 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id QAA25824; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:45:24 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id QAA87744 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:44:34 -0800 Received: from sttlpop5.sttl.uswest.net (sttlpop5.sttl.uswest.net [206.81.192.5]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id QAA22567 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:44:33 -0800 Received: (qmail 18040 invoked by alias); 6 Mar 2001 00:41:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 13415 invoked by uid 0); 6 Mar 2001 00:39:52 -0000 Received: from sdslpp235.sttl.uswest.net (HELO ?10.0.0.2?) (63.224.55.235) by sttlpop5.sttl.uswest.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2001 00:39:52 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:46:07 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "David L. Miller" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Precommand on Pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Sender: shadoware@pop.sttl.uswest.net X-To: Nuno Teixeira X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mx2.cac.washington.edu id QAA05615 Why not just create a simple shell script that invokes fetchmail before invoking Pine? On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Nuno Teixeira wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Hello to all, > > I'd like to know if Pine has something like a precommand to execute a > program, before it checks the new email. > > I have experiment this feature with KMail (KDE) with fetchmail. There i= s > possible to execute first fetchmail before Pine checks my local email? > > I know that I can run fetchmail in daemon mode, but I have a dialup > connection and I don't have a fulltime connection. > > Thanks very much to all subscribers and developers. This is the best an= d > complete email program that i ever used. > > Bye, > > > - -- > Nuno Teixeira > Dir. T=E9cnico > pt-quorum.com > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGP 6.5.8 > Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 > > iQA/AwUBOqQxeI8HcgpjoE/HEQKDsgCg8oWZatRnwg+T7oVFb9daK/R/9OYAn3M6 > KB+149pD8PQyjsg71N4Opkgw > =3DQ8QI > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:51:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id AAA00215 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:51:34 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 06 00:51:34 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA03911; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:51:33 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id AAA16436; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:49:57 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id AAA65212 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:46:14 -0800 Received: from moose.erie.net (moose.erie.net [208.138.204.11]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA07064 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:46:14 -0800 Received: from hermit.erie.net (IDENT:hermit@dsl282.erie.net [63.160.33.81]) by moose.erie.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f268j7M16371; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 03:45:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 03:45:15 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Dick Williams To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: user-domain In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Eduardo - Thanks you, Sir, for your help. It is appreciated. Dick On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > *** Dick Williams (hermit@erie.net) wrote in the pine-info list today: > > :) I get an interesting error in Pine, usually when I call it up. It reads: > :) *cannot have *@* in hermit@erie.net user-domain* or something along those > :) lines. In the config area I have my *user-domain* set as follows: > :) hermit@erie.net. What should it be? I can send and receive email just > :) fine. > > Dick, > > The user-domain is different from the "user e-mail address". The domain > is the part of your e-mail address that comes after the "@" sign, so in > your case is "erie.net". > > From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 07:41:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id HAA22730 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 07:41:52 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 06 07:41:50 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA13470; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 07:41:49 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id HAA31050; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 07:41:19 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id HAA42444 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 07:39:44 -0800 Received: from users.assist.ro (users.assist.ro [194.102.130.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA25118 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 07:39:35 -0800 Received: from dialup08-pm1.assist.ro (IDENT:silviu@dialup08-pm1.assist.ro [194.102.130.40]) by users.assist.ro (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f26FdLF23796 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:39:21 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:45:43 +0200 (EET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Silviu Cojocaru To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Precommand on Pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-To: X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mx1.cac.washington.edu id HAA13470 On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, 16:46 -0800 David L. Miller wrote: > Why not just create a simple shell script that invokes fetchmail before > invoking Pine? It won't play nicely. I had a problem with pine 4.30, I made an alias lik= e this: alias getmail=3D"fetchmail && pine" a .fetchmailrc was in my home dir. The problem is that pine forgot to sort some messages, those would not show up and sent to their folders until I did a Ctrl+L (I have pine filtering all my mail). > > On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Nuno Teixeira wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > Hello to all, > > > > I'd like to know if Pine has something like a precommand to execute a > > program, before it checks the new email. > > > > I have experiment this feature with KMail (KDE) with fetchmail. There= is > > possible to execute first fetchmail before Pine checks my local email= ? > > > > I know that I can run fetchmail in daemon mode, but I have a dialup > > connection and I don't have a fulltime connection. > > > > Thanks very much to all subscribers and developers. This is the best = and > > complete email program that i ever used. > > > > Bye, > > > > > > - -- > > Nuno Teixeira > > Dir. T=E9cnico > > pt-quorum.com > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: PGP 6.5.8 > > Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 > > > > iQA/AwUBOqQxeI8HcgpjoE/HEQKDsgCg8oWZatRnwg+T7oVFb9daK/R/9OYAn3M6 > > KB+149pD8PQyjsg71N4Opkgw > > =3DQ8QI > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > --=20 Silviu Cojocaru silviucj@yahoo.com (new email address) _________________________________________________________________________= _____ C Code. C Code Run. Run, Code, RUN! PLEASE!!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:18:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id TAA26257 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:18:20 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 06 19:18:18 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA04281; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:18:18 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id TAA16980; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:17:57 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id TAA41696 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:15:37 -0800 Received: from parvati.colorado.edu (parvati.Colorado.EDU [128.138.113.52]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA07035 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:15:37 -0800 Received: from localhost (dorsey@localhost) by parvati.colorado.edu (8.10.0/8.10.0/ITS-5.0/standard) with ESMTP id f273FaG06577 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:15:36 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:15:36 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Susan Dorsey To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: mbox In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, We've been seeing some problems with 4.33 as a result of old mbox files existing in some users' $HOME directories. If the mbox exists, Pine 4.33 moves the spool into mbox upon opening. This is causing a variety of problems, but what it all comes down to is: Is there a way to compile 4.33 to make it ignore mbox? Or at least so it doesn't move spool/mail into mbox? Second question - We have some users who apparently run Pine on the server (ie, not PC Pine) and simultaneously allow their PCs to pop mail. Pine 3.96 seemed to have no problem with this (although I have no idea why anyone would do this). However, 4.33 doesn't allow the pop to occur. Is this a designed feature of 4.33? If so, and this becomes a major complaint, can this feature be compiled out? Thanks, Susan Susan Dorsey dorsey@colorado.edu Information Technology Services University of Colorado at Boulder -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:46:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id TAA01994 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:46:29 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 06 19:46:28 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA15848; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:46:27 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id TAA09346; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:46:02 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id TAA102084 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:45:04 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA07063 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:45:04 -0800 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f273j39307632; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:45:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:45:03 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: mbox In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Susan Dorsey X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Susan Dorsey (dorsey@colorado.edu) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) We've been seeing some problems with 4.33 as a result of old mbox :) files existing in some users' $HOME directories. If the mbox exists, :) Pine 4.33 moves the spool into mbox upon opening. :) :) This is causing a variety of problems, but what it all comes down to is: :) Is there a way to compile 4.33 to make it ignore mbox? Or at least so it :) doesn't move spool/mail into mbox? Susan, You can try recompiling Pine, but edit first the file: pine4.33/imap/src/osdep/unix/Makefile delete the value "mbox" from the "EXTRADRIVERS=mbox" variable. That should also do it. If your users also use IMAP to access their INBOX, you will need to replace "imapd" also by the new "imapd" you get after recompiling. If you do not wish to recompile and if your users read mail from the spool, then adding the value "mbox" to the variable "disable-these-drivers" in their .pinerc file will do the trick too. (This trick does not work if your users read their INBOX through IMAP, as it is the server, in this case, and not Pine the one that moves the messages, so in this case it would be convenient to recompile imapd, with the support for mbox disabled.) In any case, after doing this, you may receive questions about "missing mail", since Pine is not reading mail from their "mbox" anymore. Their mail is safely stored in their mbox file, which you can merge to their INBOX or copy to their /mail directory. I didn't understand much your second question so I'll let someone else answer it for you. Have a nice day. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:10:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id WAA21108 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:09:59 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 06 22:09:58 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA07813; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:09:57 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id WAA19156; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:09:29 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id WAA75328 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:08:31 -0800 Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com ([199.183.24.200]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA10612 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:08:30 -0800 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2768RT30120 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:08:27 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:08:27 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Multiple instances of PINE + mail filters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: devserv.devel.redhat.com: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN What happens in PINE, if you have 3 login sessions of PINE running all on the same host, all accessing the same local mail spool file (not nfs), and you are using incoming email filters in PINE? Do all three mail clients match the new message, and then filter it in your folders? I ask because I have procmail set up to filter some of my mail, and procmail is also using a msgid duplicate filter with a large enough cache to kill any dupes even if they come in a couple days apart. I started using PINE filters recently in addition to my procmail rules, but the PINE filters filter different stuff than do the procmail filters, so they should not conflict with each other. Oddly, I've noticed I'm getting duplicate emails recently. Duplicates that are perfect binary duplicates of each other, same headers/body, etcs.. I've convirmed this with diff. There is no way in hell my dupe filter in procmail would be letting dupes through, especially an hour apart. I've puzzled with the idea and thought the problem lied in the MTA, but now I'm not so sure. It is possible that stray PINE sessions are staying active when my net connection goes down, and when I connect back in, I'm ending up with multiple concurrant PINE sessions without knowing it. If this is the case I strongly suspect that I am getting dupes as messages come in and get filtered from my inbox to my folders by 2-4 copies of pine simultaneously, and thus explaining the duplicates. On top of that it is possible that PINE is running like this on more than one host, and is being used via NFS as well. Does this sound like a possible reason for my duplicate messages, and is there a way of fixing it? If not, I will have to go back to all-procmail filters. I kindof liked doing simpler filtering in PINE though.. Then again, I could be way off base, and it could be caused by something else... It is my guess though that PINE's filtering mechanism wasn't designed in such a way to allow multiple concurrent access to the same inboxes with filters being applied to that inbox. Comments? -- Mike A. Harris Shipping/mailing address: OS Systems Engineer 190 Pittsburgh Ave., Sault Ste. Marie, Red Hat Inc. Ontario, Canada, P6C 5B3 http://www.redhat.com Phone: (705)949-2136 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:18:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id AAA07377 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:18:33 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 07 00:18:32 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA20803; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:18:31 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id AAA30582; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:18:06 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id AAA65032 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:16:47 -0800 Received: from ux-2s02.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de (ux-2s02.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de [194.95.66.3]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA09460 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:16:46 -0800 Received: from ux-2s02.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de (mail@rr-2s01.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de [194.95.66.2]) by ux-2s02.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de (8.11.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f278Gqj09455 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:16:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from [10.110.1.10] (helo=pc-2m10.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de) by ux-2s02.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14aZ7t-0000Se-00 for ; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:16:54 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:15:01 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steffen Kaiser To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: BUG: PC-Pine v4.33 and quoting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: skaise2a@rr-2s01a.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, there is a bug in PC-Pine v4.33 (and earlier ones) with quoting arguments when invoking external programs. PC-Pine quotes arguments containing unix-shell meta characters with a single quote. In Windows a) most of those characters do not have any shell meta function (so to quote them is unnecessary) and b) no single quotes, but double quotes must be used. It's annoying repeatedly when following a hyperlink, because many of them contain a '?' or '&' or something like that. Bye, -- Steffen Kaiser -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 05:31:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id FAA01144 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 05:31:04 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 07 05:31:03 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA27843; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 05:31:02 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id FAA23260; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 05:30:45 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id FAA92140 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 05:29:18 -0800 Received: from ux-2s02.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de (ux-2s02.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de [194.95.66.3]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA28995 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 05:29:17 -0800 Received: from ux-2s02.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de (mail@rr-2s01.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de [194.95.66.2]) by ux-2s02.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de (8.11.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f27DTSj24111 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:29:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from [10.110.1.10] (helo=pc-2m10.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de) by ux-2s02.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14ae0Q-0002Id-00 for ; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 14:29:30 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:27:36 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steffen Kaiser To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PC-Pine v4.33 and SSL/novalidate-cert not working MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: skaise2a@rr-2s01a.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hallo, I've setup UW's imapd to run as imaps on port 1111 for testing {Just a pain to tweak it onto that port!} During compilation on Solaris sh build told "Including SSL functionality". The INBOX is defined as: {server:1111/ssl/novalidate-cert}INBOX Using pine built on Solaris, too, the logfile says: ... imaps alternative service init ... ... Authenticated user= ... So I'm guessing that I logged in into UW's imapd/ssl and rather than stunnel. The pre-built PC-Pine v4.33 gives me that (copied from Journal): === Opening "INBOX" Opening "INBOX" Unexpected SChannel error 80090302 - report this Can't establish SSL session to server/SSL,1111 No folder is currently open === What's wrong with PC-Pine? Bye, -- Steffen Kaiser -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 05:32:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id FAA18471 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 05:32:13 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 07 05:32:11 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA27893; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 05:32:11 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id FAA28412; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 05:31:53 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id FAA91944 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 05:31:14 -0800 Received: from ux-2s02.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de (ux-2s02.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de [194.95.66.3]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA16110 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 05:31:13 -0800 Received: from ux-2s02.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de (mail@rr-2s01.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de [194.95.66.2]) by ux-2s02.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de (8.11.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f27DVOj24239 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:31:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from [10.110.1.10] (helo=pc-2m10.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de) by ux-2s02.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14ae2J-0002JA-00 for ; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 14:31:27 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:29:33 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steffen Kaiser To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: imapd/ssl and self-signed certificates MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: skaise2a@rr-2s01a.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, how can I tell pine to accept self-signed certificates _without_ /novalidate-cert?? E.g. by placing a valdiation file on the host pine runs on, or somthing?? Bye, -- Steffen Kaiser -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:50:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA18669 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:50:22 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 07 11:50:21 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA28699; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:50:20 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA04364; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:49:33 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA109934 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:46:46 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA11779 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:46:46 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f27Jki9409422; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:46:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:46:44 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: BUG: PC-Pine v4.33 and quoting In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Steffen Kaiser (skaise2a@ux-2s02.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de) wrote in the...: :) there is a bug in PC-Pine v4.33 (and earlier ones) with quoting arguments :) when invoking external programs. I think this behavior is a feature, try editing your pinerc file and adding "enable-mailcap-param-substitution" under feature-list. Hopefully that will solve your problem. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:15:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id IAA03247 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:15:23 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 08 08:15:22 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA03483; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:15:20 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id IAA30436; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:13:38 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id IAA62412 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:11:14 -0800 Received: from vger.timpanogas.org (IDENT:root@vger.timpanogas.org [207.109.151.240]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA27442 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:03:16 -0800 Received: from asdf.capslock.lan (SSMarie-ppp129042.sympatico.ca [209.226.190.161]) by vger.timpanogas.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09035; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:56:55 -0700 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f28G2vR13435; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:02:57 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:02:56 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PINE mail filter bug MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I just confirmed my assumptions of pine mail filter bug. If one uses PINE mail filters, one can not have multiple instances of PINE running simultaneously or else every running copy of PINE will each filter incoming mail resulting in as many duplicates as there are PINE processes running. Steps to reproduce: 1) Log into a machine where you have your mail spool and mail folders. 2) Run PINE, set up an incoming mail filter of some kind, lets say you set up a filter to file all mail coming from mailing list foo-list@bar.com into the foo-list folder. 3) Make sure you're subscribed to foo-list, and that you are actually receiving mail from the list, and that PINE is filtering it into your folder properly. 4) Leave this PINE running, and log into the same machine again from another VC, or from somewhere else, etc. and run PINE again. You'll get the "PINE is already running, trying to get the mailbox lock from other pine session" message, which of course works. 5) Repeat step 4 again so you have 3 running copies of PINE on the same host. Now send an email to foo-list, or wait until some mail comes in. You might want to try linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org for a good way of reproducing quickly. ;o) As soon as mail comes in from foo-list, every single running PINE will grab the message, and each will file it into your foo-list folder, so you have 3 copies of the message (or rather one copy for each PINE that is running at the time). Oddly enough, they all don't get filtered simultaneously. It may be anywhere from 30 minutes to 12 hours later that duplicates appear, which is very odd indeed. Killing all PINE instances but one corrects the problem at least until you run PINE again. One might be inclined to say "don't run multiple copies of PINE while filtering is enabled" but that isn't very useful for those that need to do so IMHO. What is worse is that you may not be aware multiple copies of PINE are running, as you may have had a remote ssh session get killed leaving a PINE running but detached, or some other scenario, or even multiple PINE's running on separate hosts, but all accessing the same inbox and folders via NFS. I consider this a pretty severe bug because it hampers the functionality of PINE mail filters. Possible _partial_ solution: When PINE acquires the mailbox lock from another PINE process have that other process not only give up the lock, but also disable all mail filters on that instance. This would ensure all PINE instances on a given host only one is filtering and thus would avoid these duplicate emails. It doesn't solve the problem of PINE being ran on different hosts but accessing the same inbox/folders via NFS. I dunno how this could be solved at all, or if it can be, if it would work cross platform (probably not). Please let me know if this is considered fixable, and when we might expect to see a fix. I'm willing also to test out proposed patches, etc. if it helps fix the problem. For now I'm falling back to using procmail filters for everything. TIA ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved. Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:50:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA14661 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:50:05 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 08 09:50:04 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA07206; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:50:00 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA06744; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:49:25 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA62400 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:48:27 -0800 Received: from cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in (IDENT:root@cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.73.78]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA03655 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:26:37 -0800 Received: from localhost (mohit@localhost) by cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f28HY8q19411 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:04:08 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:04:08 +0530 (IST) Reply-To: Pine Discussion Forum Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mohit Agarwal To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PINE mail filter bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Mike A. Harris wrote on pine-info list today at 11:02 -0500: > I just confirmed my assumptions of pine mail filter bug. > > If one uses PINE mail filters, one can not have multiple > instances of PINE running simultaneously or else every running > copy of PINE will each filter incoming mail resulting in as many > duplicates as there are PINE processes running. [...] Yes, I've also seen this happening. Not only does this happen when you have multiple sessions of pine ruuning simultaneously, but also in case pine aborts abnormally. -- Mohit Agarwal --------------------------------------------------------------------------- GPG Public Key: http://cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in/~mohit/mohit.gpg --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Love your enemies: they'll go crazy trying to figure out what you're up to. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:04:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA26277 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:04:58 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 08 11:04:56 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA32702; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:04:56 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA19746; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:04:17 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA67804 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:03:04 -0800 Received: from vger.timpanogas.org (IDENT:root@vger.timpanogas.org [207.109.151.240]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA28247 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:03:03 -0800 Received: from asdf.capslock.lan (SSMarie-ppp129042.sympatico.ca [209.226.190.161]) by vger.timpanogas.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10058; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:56:57 -0700 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f28J30t14563; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:03:00 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:02:59 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: BUG: Customized headers explodes when using 2 the same MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN If you use the customized headers feature of PINE, and include 2 headers the same, and then postpone the message, when you continue your message, the headers appear in PINE's message editor, but all screwed up with both on one line. Steps to reproduce: 1) Go to Main->Setup->Config 2) Edit custom headers and add two headers: X-Foo: bar X-Foo: broccoli 3) Save and exit then compose a new message. 4) While composing, postpone your message. 5) Hit "C" to compose again and choose to continue the postponed message. 6) The new screen that comes up in the composer now shows both new headers (where it didn't show any before), and the contents of both headers is crammed into the first one. X-Foo: barbroccoli X-Foo: Expected behavior: 1) The headers should be separate as they are in the configuration screen. 2) They should NOT appear in the composer unless shown in "default-composer-hdrs". This occurs in PINE 4.33 and is easily reproduceable. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved. Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:08:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA23253 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:08:44 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 08 11:08:43 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA10293; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:08:42 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA27872; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:07:50 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA92534 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:06:27 -0800 Received: from vger.timpanogas.org (IDENT:root@vger.timpanogas.org [207.109.151.240]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA25136 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:06:26 -0800 Received: from asdf.capslock.lan (SSMarie-ppp129042.sympatico.ca [209.226.190.161]) by vger.timpanogas.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10073 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:00:25 -0700 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f28J6SO14580 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:06:28 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:06:28 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PINE mail filter bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Spam-To: potato.potato.potato X-Spam-To: uce@ftc.gov X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Mohit Agarwal wrote: >> I just confirmed my assumptions of pine mail filter bug. >> >> If one uses PINE mail filters, one can not have multiple >> instances of PINE running simultaneously or else every running >> copy of PINE will each filter incoming mail resulting in as many >> duplicates as there are PINE processes running. > >[...] > >Yes, I've also seen this happening. Not only does this happen when you >have multiple sessions of pine ruuning simultaneously, but also in case >pine aborts abnormally. I am unable to use PINE's filters anymore until this is fixed. ;o( An optimal solution would be to have PINE use procmail as it's filter optionally, and allow the user to specify the recipes filename, that way one could use .procmailrc normally, and inside the main rc include .procmailrc-pine for example. It would also throw in regular expressions to boot. ;o) GNU MANA uses procmail in this manner for filtering. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved. Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for Linux software? http://freshmeat.net http://www.rpmfind.net http://filewatcher.org http://www.coldstorage.org http://sourceforge.net From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:53:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id PAA00257 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:53:14 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 08 15:53:13 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA20991; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:53:12 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id PAA21712; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:52:17 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id PAA111590 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:50:43 -0800 Received: from alpha.circinus.com (nemo@alpha.circinus.com [63.114.74.91]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA01486 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:50:42 -0800 Received: from localhost (nemo@localhost) by alpha.circinus.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17690; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:50:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:50:23 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nemo To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PINE mail filter bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Mike A. Harris" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Well actually, if you go to "S"etup, "R"ules, "F"ilters and go to the end of the list, you'll see a small but important feature called: move-only-if-not-deleted See, when pine moves a message, it marks it as deleted. So next time it will ignore the message. This was implemented in pine 4.32 if I remember correclty. On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Mike A. Harris wrote: > On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Mohit Agarwal wrote: > > >> I just confirmed my assumptions of pine mail filter bug. > >> > >> If one uses PINE mail filters, one can not have multiple > >> instances of PINE running simultaneously or else every running > >> copy of PINE will each filter incoming mail resulting in as many > >> duplicates as there are PINE processes running. > > > >[...] > > > >Yes, I've also seen this happening. Not only does this happen when you > >have multiple sessions of pine ruuning simultaneously, but also in case > >pine aborts abnormally. > > I am unable to use PINE's filters anymore until this is fixed. > ;o( > > An optimal solution would be to have PINE use procmail as it's > filter optionally, and allow the user to specify the recipes > filename, that way one could use .procmailrc normally, and inside > the main rc include .procmailrc-pine for example. It would also > throw in regular expressions to boot. ;o) > > GNU MANA uses procmail in this manner for filtering. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate > This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved. > Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Looking for Linux software? http://freshmeat.net http://www.rpmfind.net > http://filewatcher.org http://www.coldstorage.org http://sourceforge.net > > -- nemo@circinus.com From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:58:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id RAA06754 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:58:45 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 08 17:58:43 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA14800; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:58:42 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id RAA34798; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:58:18 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id RAA117854 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:57:37 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA27552 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:57:37 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f291vRf22636; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:57:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:57:27 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PINE mail filter bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Mike A. Harris" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Mike A. Harris (mharris@opensourceadvocate.org) wrote in the pine-info...: :) I just confirmed my assumptions of pine mail filter bug. :) :) If one uses PINE mail filters, one can not have multiple :) instances of PINE running simultaneously or else every running :) copy of PINE will each filter incoming mail resulting in as many :) duplicates as there are PINE processes running. Mike, Take a look at the following discussion in comp.mail.pine that took place a few weeks ago: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&ic=1&th=eda394f4d2b7b194 if you are having the same problem reported here, you may be out of luck for some time, although I like your idea that a "closed inbox" should not filter messages, which I think would help to reduce this problem, or do you have the "move-only-if-not-deleted" feature unchecked? -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:10:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id TAA30870 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:10:20 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 08 19:10:19 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA16565; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:10:18 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id TAA32564; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:09:48 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id TAA40706 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:09:03 -0800 Received: from cannac.ampr.org (lc0617.zianet.com [216.234.195.104]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA13423 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:09:01 -0800 Received: from localhost (karl@localhost) by cannac.ampr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA02174; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 20:11:03 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 20:11:03 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Karl F. Larsen" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PINE mail filter bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Nemo X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: cannac.ampr.org: karl owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thanks Nemo, you directed me to the place I have been trying to find since I got Pine ver 4.31 compiled on my Linux. I will play with this in the near future and see if I can do what I'm now doing with procmail. I have had no problem with procmail but there isn't any for the windoz version and I need some good reason to get co-workers to use Pine as their mail system. On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Nemo wrote: > > Well actually, if you go to "S"etup, "R"ules, "F"ilters and go to the end > of the list, you'll see a small but important feature called: > > move-only-if-not-deleted > > See, when pine moves a message, it marks it as deleted. So next time it > will ignore the message. This was implemented in pine 4.32 if I remember > correclty. > > On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Mike A. Harris wrote: > > > On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Mohit Agarwal wrote: > > > > >> I just confirmed my assumptions of pine mail filter bug. > > >> > > >> If one uses PINE mail filters, one can not have multiple > > >> instances of PINE running simultaneously or else every running > > >> copy of PINE will each filter incoming mail resulting in as many > > >> duplicates as there are PINE processes running. > > > > > >[...] > > > > > >Yes, I've also seen this happening. Not only does this happen when you > > >have multiple sessions of pine ruuning simultaneously, but also in case > > >pine aborts abnormally. > > > > I am unable to use PINE's filters anymore until this is fixed. > > ;o( > > > > An optimal solution would be to have PINE use procmail as it's > > filter optionally, and allow the user to specify the recipes > > filename, that way one could use .procmailrc normally, and inside > > the main rc include .procmailrc-pine for example. It would also > > throw in regular expressions to boot. ;o) > > > > GNU MANA uses procmail in this manner for filtering. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate > > This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved. > > Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Looking for Linux software? http://freshmeat.net http://www.rpmfind.net > > http://filewatcher.org http://www.coldstorage.org http://sourceforge.net > > > > > > -- > nemo@circinus.com > > > Yours Truly, - Karl F. Larsen, k5di@arrl.net (505) 524-3303 - From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 01:28:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id BAA30201 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 01:28:37 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 10 01:28:36 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA04215; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 01:28:36 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id BAA27872; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 01:28:17 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.02) with ESMTP id f2A9P0L31356 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 01:25:00 -0800 Received: from users.assist.ro (users.assist.ro [194.102.130.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA01153 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 01:24:45 -0800 Received: from dialup03-pm1.assist.ro (IDENT:silviu@dialup03-pm1.assist.ro [194.102.130.35]) by users.assist.ro (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2A9OLs13330 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 11:24:25 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 11:31:27 +0200 (EET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Silviu Cojocaru To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: New mail problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This thing is starting to drive me nuts. I'm on a lot of mailing lists and accordingly, I receive a lot of mail. So I set up filters in pine to get all the mail to its proper place (folder). My problem is that I find it _very_ hard to go from folder to folder (their number is >20) in search of the new emails. I have written to the pine devel team about adding some visual feedback when a folder has new messgaes in it. They told me that this is one of their TODO items, in the mean time, is there any way, to work around that jumping from folder to folder. Maybe, some way to stall the filters, and read all the new messages (while in INBOX), and after that apply them and send the mail to the folders? -- Silviu Cojocaru silviucj@yahoo.com (new email address) ______________________________________________________________________________ Everyone can be taught to sculpt: Michelangelo would have had to be taught how ___not to. So it is with the great programmers. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 09:02:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA05515 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 09:02:17 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 10 09:02:15 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA02995; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 09:02:15 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA20192; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 09:01:54 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.02) with ESMTP id f2AFikL32230 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 07:44:47 -0800 Received: from sch57.msk.ru (sch57.msk.ru [212.111.92.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA12712 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 07:44:45 -0800 Received: from localhost (d00zaharjaschev@localhost) by sch57.msk.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA13307 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:44:15 +0300 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:44:13 +0300 (MSK) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ivan Zakharyaschev To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: bad behaviour: inbox doesn't exist MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: sch57.msk.ru: d00zaharjaschev owned process doing -bs X-Sender: d00zaharjaschev@sch57.msk.ru X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello! I have noticed a situation when Pine (4.33, though I'm writing from another version) behaves not very nice: Specify in Main-Setup-Config the inbox-path, for example: my-mail. Then make sure the file doesn't exist: $ rm -f ~/my-mail and start Pine: $ pine -i Pine gets into a state where you can nothing, but Quit. Even if there are ohter folders, you may wish to have a look at (that's the main inconvinience here). Starting Pine without the "-i" option, and then pressing "I" isn't the same: after this you get a working Pine. And, of course, touching the file makes everything work Ok. Hope the developers will fix it in future releases. Regards, Ivan Z. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 02:00:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id CAA27920 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 02:00:51 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 11 02:00:48 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA19955; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 02:00:48 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id BAA19718; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:59:59 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.02) with ESMTP id f2B9spL26514 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:54:51 -0800 Received: from users.assist.ro (IDENT:root@users.assist.ro [194.102.130.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA01997 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:54:47 -0800 Received: from dialup21-pm1.assist.ro (IDENT:silviu@dialup21-pm1.assist.ro [194.102.130.53]) by users.assist.ro (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2B9sas29605 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:54:36 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:01:15 +0200 (EET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Silviu Cojocaru To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Another problem with pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Whenever I try replying to people I get this prompt: Reply to all recipients? Who would be "all recipients" since the mail recipient is me ? Why should PINE ask if I would like to mail me ? (that's nonsense) Why doesn't pine go straight ahead on replying to the sender ? Now this is a "feature" that we, "recipients", should be able to turn off. -- Silviu Cojocaru silviucj@yahoo.com (new email address) ______________________________________________________________________________ Is your job running? You'd better go catch it! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 02:10:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id CAA05672 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 02:10:52 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 11 02:10:51 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA20112; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 02:10:51 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id CAA22240; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 02:10:36 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.02) with ESMTP id f2BA5qL23866 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 02:05:52 -0800 Received: from zoo.uvm.edu (yak.uvm.edu [132.198.101.75]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA02465 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 02:05:51 -0800 Received: from gnu.uvm.edu (gnu.uvm.edu [132.198.101.64]) by zoo.uvm.edu (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2BA5o8363004 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:05:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (ashawley@localhost) by gnu.uvm.edu (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA102760 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:05:50 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:05:50 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Aaron S. Hawley" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: New mail problem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: gnu.uvm.edu: ashawley owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN i go to the [M]ain menu and then to [J]ournal to see the lates operations (like filtering mail to folders). that's the best you can do for now. On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, Silviu Cojocaru wrote: > > This thing is starting to drive me nuts. I'm on a lot of mailing lists and > accordingly, I receive a lot of mail. So I set up filters in pine to get > all the mail to its proper place (folder). My problem is that I find it > _very_ hard to go from folder to folder (their number is >20) in search of > the new emails. I have written to the pine devel team about adding some > visual feedback when a folder has new messgaes in it. They told me that > this is one of their TODO items, in the mean time, is there any way, to > work around that jumping from folder to folder. Maybe, some way to stall > the filters, and read all the new messages (while in INBOX), and after > that apply them and send the mail to the folders? From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 02:48:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id CAA24663 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 02:48:36 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 11 02:48:34 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA30869; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 02:48:33 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id CAA30974; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 02:48:07 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.02) with ESMTP id f2BAieL31116 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 02:44:40 -0800 Received: from users.assist.ro (users.assist.ro [194.102.130.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA03969 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 02:44:33 -0800 Received: from dialup23-pm1.assist.ro (IDENT:silviu@dialup23-pm1.assist.ro [194.102.130.55]) by users.assist.ro (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2BAiNs30109 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:44:23 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:51:04 +0200 (EET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Silviu Cojocaru To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: New mail problem (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ok here's the solution that was suggested to me. It works now for me (after some tweaking) and I hope that others may benefit from it, at least for now. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:45:21 +0100 (MET) From: Emil Isberg To: Silviu Cojocaru Subject: Re: New mail problem Greetings. I just wanted to note that I have my mail sorted by procmail into 44 (or so) different inboxes and I have no problem with getting to each folder with new mail... I've set up my incoming folders list to include all those files that procmail sorts my mail into and I am using the "cruising" features to just use tab to go to the next folder with unread mails... Just a suggestion. -- Do not meddle in the affairs of troff, for it is subtle and quick to anger. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 02:52:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id CAA11811 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 02:52:32 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 11 02:52:30 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA30928; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 02:52:30 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id CAA16722; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 02:52:13 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.02) with ESMTP id f2BAj2L31122 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 02:45:02 -0800 Received: from users.assist.ro (users.assist.ro [194.102.130.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.02) with ESMTP id f2BAiuB03748 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 02:44:58 -0800 Received: from dialup23-pm1.assist.ro (IDENT:silviu@dialup23-pm1.assist.ro [194.102.130.55]) by users.assist.ro (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2BAiVs30117 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:44:31 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:51:11 +0200 (EET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Silviu Cojocaru To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: New mail problem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, at 05:05 -0500, Aaron S. Hawley wrote: > i go to the [M]ain menu and then to [J]ournal to see the lates operations > (like filtering mail to folders). > > that's the best you can do for now. Yeah, I've discovered that a little bit after sending this mail. I'll forward to the list another solution that was kindly suggested. > > On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, Silviu Cojocaru wrote: > > > > > This thing is starting to drive me nuts. I'm on a lot of mailing lists and > > accordingly, I receive a lot of mail. So I set up filters in pine to get > > all the mail to its proper place (folder). My problem is that I find it > > _very_ hard to go from folder to folder (their number is >20) in search of > > the new emails. I have written to the pine devel team about adding some > > visual feedback when a folder has new messgaes in it. They told me that > > this is one of their TODO items, in the mean time, is there any way, to > > work around that jumping from folder to folder. Maybe, some way to stall > > the filters, and read all the new messages (while in INBOX), and after > > that apply them and send the mail to the folders? > -- Silviu Cojocaru silviucj@yahoo.com (new email address) ______________________________________________________________________________ Hug me now, you mad, impetuous fool!! Oh wait... I'm a computer, and you're a person. It would never work out. Never mind. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 04:12:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id EAA10021 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 04:12:18 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 11 04:12:17 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA22535; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 04:12:17 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id EAA27870; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 04:11:59 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.02) with ESMTP id f2BC8XL28518 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 04:08:33 -0800 Received: from ns1.syntegra.com (ns1.syntegra.com [150.143.16.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA19855 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 04:08:33 -0800 Received: from [129.179.17.10] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 06:08:28 -0600 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com with ESMTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:08:23 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:08:22 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Edward M Greshko To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Another problem with pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Silviu Cojocaru X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Silviu Cojocaru wrote: > Whenever I try replying to people I get this prompt: > Reply to all recipients? > > Who would be "all recipients" since the mail recipient is me ? "recipients" are anyone getting the message including all Cc:'s. > Why should PINE ask if I would like to mail me ? (that's nonsense) > Why doesn't pine go straight ahead on replying to the sender ? > > Now this is a "feature" that we, "recipients", should be able to turn off. Also, it may be that you have multiple possibilities for your To: address and pine doesn't really think the To: is you. You can add addresses to alt-addresses in your configuration to get around this. Ed From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 07:42:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id HAA20556 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 07:42:46 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 11 07:42:45 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA03970; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 07:42:44 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id HAA08912; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 07:42:25 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.02) with ESMTP id f2BFe2L23740 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 07:40:02 -0800 Received: from rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (rly-ip02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.160]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA18249 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 07:40:01 -0800 Received: from tot-tr.proxy.aol.com (tot-tr.proxy.aol.com [152.163.201.131]) by rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id KAA13168 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:39:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from AC988086.ipt.aol.com (AC988086.ipt.aol.com [172.152.128.134]) by tot-tr.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f2BFdQr20015 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:39:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:42:57 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: feature request: Select Cur, CurThread, CurSubject, etc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Technical Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: nancy@imap.iecc.com X-Apparently-From: I8i8@aol.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN When I'm reading a newsgroup or mailing list I like to first select all the messages I want to read and then read them. The way I do this now is to page through the index and mark the messages I want to read by typing `:' which means SelectCur, and then zoom in on the selected messages by typing `Z'. I almost always want to select an entire thread or subject rather than just some of the messages in the thread. It would be great if I could use a single keystroke to select a subject or a thread. Thanks for considering this! ^X, Nancy -- For Pine links, see http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink =-- Sent via PINE 4.33: Internet News & Email for Win/Unix --= -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 22:59:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id WAA01249 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 22:59:24 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 11 22:59:22 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA19992; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 22:59:21 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id WAA27892; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 22:58:25 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.02) with ESMTP id f2C52TL31206 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 21:02:29 -0800 Received: from mailhost.iitb.ac.in (mailhost.iitb.ac.in [203.197.74.142]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id VAA29262 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 21:02:27 -0800 Received: (qmail 14607 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2001 04:59:38 -0000 Received: from surya.cse.iitb.ernet.in (HELO surya.cse.iitb.ac.in) (144.16.111.14) by mailhost.iitb.ac.in with SMTP; 12 Mar 2001 04:59:38 -0000 Received: from kailash.cse.iitb.ac.in (raja@kailash [144.16.111.2]) by surya.cse.iitb.ac.in (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11121 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:23:30 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raja@localhost) by kailash.cse.iitb.ac.in (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA22763; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:35:29 +0530 (IST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:35:28 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: V V Raja Rao To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine colors MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hai, Is it possile to set colors in pine 3.90? If so please let me know. Thanks in advance, Raja. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:07:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id XAA14400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:07:03 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 11 23:07:02 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA20135; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:07:01 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id XAA30230; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:06:43 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.02) with ESMTP id f2C74kL27748 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:04:46 -0800 Received: from zoo.uvm.edu (yak.uvm.edu [132.198.101.75]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA02903 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:04:45 -0800 Received: from elk.uvm.edu (elk.uvm.edu [132.198.101.63]) by zoo.uvm.edu (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2C74j8270420 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 02:04:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (ashawley@localhost) by elk.uvm.edu (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA57188 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 02:04:44 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 02:04:44 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Aaron S. Hawley" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine colors In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: elk.uvm.edu: ashawley owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN i believe it was v. 4.20 http://www.washington.edu/pine/changes/4.10-to-4.20.html On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, V V Raja Rao wrote: > Hai, > > Is it possile to set colors in pine 3.90? If so please let me know. > > Thanks in advance, > Raja. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 02:01:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id CAA03249 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 02:01:38 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 12 02:01:37 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA23213; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 02:01:37 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id CAA29316; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 02:01:18 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.02) with ESMTP id f2C9xWL26734 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 01:59:32 -0800 Received: from vger.timpanogas.org (IDENT:root@vger.timpanogas.org [207.109.151.240]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.02) with ESMTP id f2C9xVB28103 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 01:59:32 -0800 Received: from asdf.capslock.lan (SSMarie-ppp111228.sympatico.ca [216.209.120.127]) by vger.timpanogas.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA07967; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 03:53:18 -0700 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2C9xIr10326; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 04:59:18 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 04:59:18 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine colors In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: V V Raja Rao X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Spam-To: uce@ftc.gov X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, V V Raja Rao wrote: > Is it possile to set colors in pine 3.90? If so please let me know. No. You can work around it by setting the foreground/background colors of your terminal first. In Linux this is done with "setterm". I dunno about other OS's. Why not just upgrade to 4.33, or otherwise convince your sysadmin to do so? It is pretty simple to do. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved. Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Who knows what dangerous code lurks in the hearts of men? Only the Shadowman(TM) knows... -- Mike A. Harris From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 05:58:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id FAA25398 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 05:58:22 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 12 05:58:20 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA17440; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 05:58:19 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id FAA19264; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 05:57:50 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.02) with ESMTP id f2CDuTL26818 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 05:56:29 -0800 Received: from tunku.uady.mx (tunku.uady.mx [148.209.1.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.02) with ESMTP id f2CDuRB13640 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 05:56:28 -0800 Received: from localhost (angel@localhost) by tunku.uady.mx (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2CE88616070; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:08:08 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:08:08 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Angel G. Polanco Rodriguez" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: copy and paste In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Aaron S. Hawley" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Sorry, somebody know which are the options with the keyboard for copy and paste text? Thanks in advance by the help. ************************************ | Q.B.B.ANGEL G. POLANCO RODRIGUEZ | | UNIVERSIDAD AUTONOMA DE YUCATAN | | DIRECCION GENERAL DE | | DESARROLLO ACADEMICO | | DEPARTAMENTO DE TELEINFORMATICA| | CALLE 59 POR AV. ITZAEZ # 490 | | MERIDA, YUCATAN, MEXICO | | CODIGO POSTAL : 97 000 | | TELEFONO:52 (99) 23 74 28 | | E-mail: angel@tunku.uady.mx | | http://www.uady.mx | ************************************ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 06:02:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id GAA15097 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 06:02:31 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 12 06:02:30 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA17552; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 06:02:29 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id GAA19302; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 06:02:15 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.02) with ESMTP id f2CE1iL12156 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 06:01:44 -0800 Received: from yellow.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@yellow.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.67]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA20485 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 06:01:43 -0800 Received: from quinag.csi.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.10.53] helo=cam.ac.uk) by yellow.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14cStK-00052c-00 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:01:42 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:01:43 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Barry Landy To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine and NT registry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: bl10@imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Someone on our site has reported to me that Pine appears to store user-id and personal name in the NT registry and to use these in preference to the values in the appropriate pinerc. (This came up after a corruption that damaged the values in the registry). Is this true? If so, is it appropriate behaviour? -- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 Direct line: +44 1223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site Email:bl10@cam.ac.uk Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:04:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA05594 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:04:34 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 12 09:04:32 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA00366; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:04:31 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA16734; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:02:35 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.02) with ESMTP id f2CGdIL31744 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:39:18 -0800 Received: from li-exchange-01.icc.net (mail.icc.net [208.178.142.15]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA24864 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:39:18 -0800 Received: from eagle-nest.li.icc.net ([208.178.142.151]) by li-exchange-01.icc.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id GRQM6NH5; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:38:06 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:39:15 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "William R. Van Kuyk" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine and NT registry In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Barry Landy X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: wvankuyk@mail.icc.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello... What version of PC-Pine is being used?? I currently run PC-Pine 4.33 on NT and I don't have any registry keys other then the location of the Pinerc file and the location of the pine.exe. Does anyone else have other registry keys?? On Mar 12, 2001 at 14:01 -0000 Barry Landy wrote: --> Someone on our site has reported to me that Pine appears to store --> user-id and personal name in the NT registry and to use these in --> preference to the values in the appropriate pinerc. (This came up after --> a corruption that damaged the values in the registry). --> --> Is this true? If so, is it appropriate behaviour? --> --> -- --> Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 --> Direct line: +44 1223 334713 --> University of Cambridge Computing Service --> New Museums Site Email:bl10@cam.ac.uk --> Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG --> --> --> -- --> ----------------------------------------------------------------- --> For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: --> http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ --> ----------------------------------------------------------------- --> William R. Van Kuyk Network Engineer Department of Operations mailto:wvankuyk@icc.net Internet Commerce Corporation 45 Research Way - Suite 206 East Setauket, NY 11733 631-590-1010 x5104 From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:29:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA04330 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:29:33 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 12 09:29:32 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA01486; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:29:31 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA24450; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:29:04 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.02) with ESMTP id f2CHS5L16674 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:28:05 -0800 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA24560 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:28:05 -0800 Received: from microdol1.cac.washington.edu (microdol1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.112.196]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id JAA16623 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:28:05 -0800 Received: from jfranklin_ndc.nebula.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated) by microdol1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.1+UW00.11) with ESMTP id f2CHS5w04616 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:28:05 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:27:59 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jeff Franklin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine and NT registry In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: jpf@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, William R. Van Kuyk wrote: > Hello... > > What version of PC-Pine is being used?? > > I currently run PC-Pine 4.33 on NT and I don't have any registry keys > other then the location of the Pinerc file and the location of the > pine.exe. > > Does anyone else have other registry keys?? If you run "pine -registry dump", it will show you all of the registry keys that pine sets. Pine uses the pinerc and pine.exe keys. The other keys get set so that other programs (like IE) can fire up pine. Pine does not set user-id and personal name in the registry. Jeff ps. "-registry clear" and "-registry set" options can also be useful if you think the registry has the wrong data in it. -- Jeff Franklin Networks and Distributed Computing University of Washington From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:31:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA10535 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:31:16 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 12 09:31:16 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA01541; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:31:15 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA24632; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:30:58 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.02) with ESMTP id f2CHUEL33016 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:30:14 -0800 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA05670 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:30:14 -0800 Received: from microdol1.cac.washington.edu (microdol1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.112.196]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id JAA17198 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:30:14 -0800 Received: from tigger (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated) by microdol1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.1+UW00.11) with ESMTP id f2CHUEw04693 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:30:14 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:30:14 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine and NT registry In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Barry, The command "pine -registry dump" will show what it has put in the registry. -teg On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Barry Landy wrote: > Someone on our site has reported to me that Pine appears to store > user-id and personal name in the NT registry and to use these in > preference to the values in the appropriate pinerc. (This came up after > a corruption that damaged the values in the registry). > > Is this true? If so, is it appropriate behaviour? > > From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:37:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA17451 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:37:17 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 12 09:37:16 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA23601; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:37:11 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA29682; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:36:52 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.02) with ESMTP id f2CHa4L29542 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:36:08 -0800 Received: from bom2.vsnl.net.in (bom2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA04601 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:36:03 -0800 Received: from hal9k.myip.org (unknown [203.197.59.150]) by bom2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76CF2318C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 23:05:55 +0530 (GMT+5:30) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9k.myip.org (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA03259 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 22:56:20 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 22:56:20 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Satya To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: copy and paste In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: satyap@hal9k.myip.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mar 12, 2001 at 08:08, Angel G. Polanco Rodriguez wrote: >Sorry, somebody know which are the options with the keyboard for copy and >paste text? Ctrl-k and Ctrl-u. -- Satya. US-bound grad students! For pre-apps, see The option to override self-destruct has expir&*%#NO CARRIER From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:42:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA01147 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:41:58 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 12 09:41:58 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA01941; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:41:53 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA08732; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:41:29 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.02) with ESMTP id f2CHenL18720 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:40:49 -0800 Received: from pilsener.srv.ualberta.ca (pilsener.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.19]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA06195 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:40:49 -0800 Received: from gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.12]) by pilsener.srv.ualberta.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2CHeda29634; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:40:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (maldridg@localhost) by gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA45732; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:40:39 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:40:39 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Lea To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: copy and paste In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Satya X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: maldridg@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Satya wrote: > >Sorry, somebody know which are the options with the keyboard for copy and > >paste text? > Ctrl-k and Ctrl-u. ctrl-k cuts text, and ctrl-u uncuts it. The operations occur in place. In the Unix version of Pine, to copy text, select it and press ctrl-insert. To paste, move the cursor to where you want the text to be and press shift-insert. Lea From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:54:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA26101 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:54:15 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 12 11:54:14 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA29001; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:54:13 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA28876; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:53:38 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2CJq9i37118 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:52:09 -0800 Received: from law.usc.edu (law.usc.edu [128.125.42.6]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA16248 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:52:09 -0800 Received: from l2122.usc.edu (l2122 [128.125.42.67]) by law.usc.edu (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16029 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:52:08 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:51:59 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Robert Larmon To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Does Pine create /var/spool/username.lock files? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: rlarmon@faculty-law.usc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Occasionally, a user will leave multiple Pine sessions running for a long period of time, and I'm trying to figure out if Pine is creating a .lock file or not. The lock file will be username.lock, but the owner is root. After the .lock file is created, sendmail locks up after multiple emails are sent to the user (I think 10), thus halting all mail traffic to/from that host. Is Pine doing this, or does Sendmail have something to do with this? Anyone have any similar problems? Any ideas, thoughts, etc? Thanks, Robert ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ` Robert Larmon ` ` PC Systems Analyst ` ` USC Law School Computing Services ` ` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:00:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id MAA16180 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:00:00 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 12 11:59:58 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA07345; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:59:58 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA28578; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:59:24 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2CJwAi30240 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:58:10 -0800 Received: from law.usc.edu (law.usc.edu [128.125.42.6]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA10485 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:58:10 -0800 Received: from l2122.usc.edu (l2122 [128.125.42.67]) by law.usc.edu (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16211 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:58:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:58:00 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Robert Larmon To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Does Pine create /var/spool/username.lock files? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: rlarmon@faculty-law.usc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Addendum: the relevant directory is /var/spool/mail, not /var/spool. My apologies. Robert On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Robert Larmon wrote: > > Occasionally, a user will leave multiple Pine sessions running for a long > period of time, and I'm trying to figure out if Pine is creating a .lock > file or not. The lock file will be username.lock, but the owner is root. > After the .lock file is created, sendmail locks up after multiple emails > are sent to the user (I think 10), thus halting all mail traffic to/from > that host. > > Is Pine doing this, or does Sendmail have something to do with this? > Anyone have any similar problems? Any ideas, thoughts, etc? > > Thanks, > > Robert > > > > ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` > ` Robert Larmon ` > ` PC Systems Analyst ` > ` USC Law School Computing Services ` > ` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` > ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ` Robert Larmon ` ` PC Systems Analyst ` ` USC Law School Computing Services ` ` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:22:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id PAA06699 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:22:10 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 12 15:22:09 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA13999; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:22:08 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id PAA20900; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:21:41 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id PAA26844 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:20:23 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA08729 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:20:23 -0800 Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2CNJ7f301505; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:19:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:19:07 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Does Pine create /var/spool/username.lock files? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robert Larmon X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Robert Larmon (rlarmon@law.usc.edu) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) Occasionally, a user will leave multiple Pine sessions running for a long :) period of time, and I'm trying to figure out if Pine is creating a .lock :) file or not. The lock file will be username.lock, but the owner is root. :) After the .lock file is created, sendmail locks up after multiple emails :) are sent to the user (I think 10), thus halting all mail traffic to/from :) that host. It is my understanding that Pine creates locks files, when rewriting the inbox. Did you chage the protection of /var/spool/mail to 1777? -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:26:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id PAA30573 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:26:14 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 12 15:26:12 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA03605; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:26:12 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id PAA33928; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:25:53 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id PAA41218 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:25:13 -0800 Received: from law.usc.edu (law.usc.edu [128.125.42.6]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA15100 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:25:13 -0800 Received: from l2122.usc.edu (l2122 [128.125.42.67]) by law.usc.edu (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20398; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:25:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:22:16 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Robert Larmon To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Does Pine create /var/spool/username.lock files? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: rlarmon@faculty-law.usc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > *** Robert Larmon (rlarmon@law.usc.edu) wrote in the pine-info list today: > > :) Occasionally, a user will leave multiple Pine sessions running for a long > :) period of time, and I'm trying to figure out if Pine is creating a .lock > :) file or not. The lock file will be username.lock, but the owner is root. > :) After the .lock file is created, sendmail locks up after multiple emails > :) are sent to the user (I think 10), thus halting all mail traffic to/from > :) that host. > > It is my understanding that Pine creates locks files, when rewriting the > inbox. Did you chage the protection of /var/spool/mail to 1777? The protection is 1777 (and always has been, I'm pretty sure) Robert > > -- > Eduardo > http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ > > ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ` Robert Larmon ` ` PC Systems Analyst ` ` USC Law School Computing Services ` ` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:34:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id QAA00718 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:34:14 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 12 16:34:13 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA05637; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:34:12 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id QAA20742; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:33:51 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id QAA25502 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:32:55 -0800 Received: from vger.timpanogas.org (IDENT:root@vger.timpanogas.org [207.109.151.240]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA31221 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:32:54 -0800 Received: from asdf.capslock.lan (HSE-MTL-ppp11572.qc.sympatico.ca [209.226.178.152]) by vger.timpanogas.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA10921; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:26:46 -0700 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2D0WmZ04172; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:32:49 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:32:48 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: copy and paste In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Angel G. Polanco Rodriguez" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Spam-To: uce@ftc.gov X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Angel G. Polanco Rodriguez wrote: >Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:08:08 -0600 (CST) >From: Angel G. Polanco Rodriguez >To: Pine Discussion Forum >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Subject: copy and paste > > >Sorry, somebody know which are the options with the keyboard for copy and >paste text? > >Thanks in advance by the help. As others have said, ctrl-k & ctrl-u do it, however that doesn't tell you how to mark text. ctrl-6 does that. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved. Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for Linux software? http://freshmeat.net http://www.rpmfind.net http://filewatcher.org http://www.coldstorage.org http://sourceforge.net From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:44:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id QAA18125 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:44:29 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 12 16:44:27 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA16415; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:44:27 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id QAA30542; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:43:56 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id QAA20094 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:42:54 -0800 Received: from bom2.vsnl.net.in (bom2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA01460 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:42:53 -0800 Received: from hal9k.myip.org (unknown [203.197.57.72]) by bom2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91A720C15 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 06:12:00 +0530 (GMT+5:30) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9k.myip.org (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA03854 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 23:35:26 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 23:35:26 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Satya To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: copy and paste In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: satyap@hal9k.myip.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mar 12, 2001 at 10:40, Lea wrote: >On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Satya wrote: >> Ctrl-k and Ctrl-u. > >ctrl-k cuts text, and ctrl-u uncuts it. The operations occur in place. ^k^u is cut and paste. What do you mean, "in place"? To select multilpe complete lines, use ^k many times. To select parts of a line or lines, use the mark command, usually ^^. On my terminal, ^6 works. To stop marking, use the same keystroke. >In the Unix version of Pine, to copy text, select it and press >ctrl-insert. To paste, move the cursor to where you want the text to be >and press shift-insert. In PC-Pine, you mean? -- Satya. US-bound grad students! For pre-apps, see Murphy was an optimist. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:24:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id SAA19632 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:24:36 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 12 18:24:35 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA08466; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:24:34 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id SAA20378; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:23:48 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA32850 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:22:42 -0800 Received: from vger.timpanogas.org (IDENT:root@vger.timpanogas.org [207.109.151.240]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA25775 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:22:42 -0800 Received: from asdf.capslock.lan (HSE-MTL-ppp11572.qc.sympatico.ca [209.226.178.152]) by vger.timpanogas.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA11146 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:16:36 -0700 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by asdf.capslock.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2D2Mel04383 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:22:40 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:22:40 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Specifying smpt server hostname:port MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: asdf.capslock.lan: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Spam-To: uce@ftc.gov X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is it possible to specify both the server name and port number in the pine config? If so, perhaps the help screen that pops up when hitting ctrl-? in the smtp server field could be updated to reflect this and also specify the syntax used too. I'd guess it is servername:port but assuming things is bad. My reason for asking is I need two different sendmail's running on my machine, one that queues for local delivery via my ISP for regular mail, and a separate one which queue's mail for private delivery elsewhere. I want to point PINE at the private queue to ensure all private mail goes through there, and all mail from the rest of the system, etc goes to localhost:25. IOW localhost:25 is the normal system sendmail listening, and localhost:2525 is a secondary sendmail which has DS set to "blahblah.net" and PINE uses localhost:2525 to send mail privately. This of course also needs info on how to set up 2 separate instances of sendmail on one host listening on different ports, with different config files, but that would be OT here. ;o) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Free Software advocate This message is copyright 2001, all rights reserved. Views expressed are my own, not necessarily shared by my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:37:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id SAA26769 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:37:01 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 12 18:37:00 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA08741; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:37:00 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id SAA30308; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:36:36 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA15494 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:35:35 -0800 Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.48]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA00948 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:35:35 -0800 Received: from 239.reno-03-04rs16rt.nv.dial-access.att.net ([12.72.145.239]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010313023527.OFFZ9562.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@239.reno-03-04rs16rt.nv.dial-access.att.net>; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 02:35:27 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:39:43 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: James To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: copy and paste In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Satya X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: jamesqf@postoffice.att.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Satya wrote: > On Mar 12, 2001 at 08:08, Angel G. Polanco Rodriguez wrote: > > >Sorry, somebody know which are the options with the keyboard for copy and > >paste text? > > Ctrl-k and Ctrl-u. Well, it's not quite so simple as that :-) There are about 40 different ways to copy text around, and in addition you can bind many commands to any key you want. The simplest way is to have prefix on. In that case, entering "c" (for a single line), or "cc" at on the first & last lines of a block will mark those lines. Then entering "f" or "p" on a line will copy the marked lines following or previous to the line. There's also an "m" prefix command that moves instead of copying, and a " that copies lines directly following the marked ones. You can also apply a numeric modifier to copy multiple instances... Are you confused yet? There are also ways to mark lines, boxes, or streams of text, and to move, copy, or delete them. These can be bound to whatever key you like - I don't happen to remember the defaults, but if you look for a string line "mark box" in the manual, you should find them. I believe there's also a way to do the same thing with the mouse, though I've never tried it. Hope this helps. THE does have a bit of a learning curve, but it's more than worth it. James From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:44:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id TAA08664 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:44:12 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 12 19:44:10 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA10258; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:44:10 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id TAA20088; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:43:51 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id TAA46334 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:40:42 -0800 Received: from mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.49]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA07336 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:40:41 -0800 Received: from 203.reno-01-02rs16rt.nv.dial-access.att.net ([12.72.144.203]) by mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010313034037.HNKD14058.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@203.reno-01-02rs16rt.nv.dial-access.att.net> for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 03:40:37 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:44:54 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: James To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: copy and paste In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: jamesqf@postoffice.att.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, James wrote: > On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Satya wrote: > > > On Mar 12, 2001 at 08:08, Angel G. Polanco Rodriguez wrote: > > > > >Sorry, somebody know which are the options with the keyboard for copy and > > >paste text? > > > > Ctrl-k and Ctrl-u. > > Well, it's not quite so simple as that :-) There are about 40 different > ways to copy text around, and in addition you can bind many commands to > any key you want. OOPS! Ignore that message. Thought I was working on the editor mailing list. Sorry about that. James PS: Though if you want it to work that way, just set the alternate editor to THE... From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 05:32:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id FAA27839 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 05:31:59 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 13 05:31:58 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA01690; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 05:31:57 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id FAA14594; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 05:31:00 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id FAA28342 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 05:29:28 -0800 Received: from tunku.uady.mx (tunku.uady.mx [148.209.1.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA16571 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 05:29:27 -0800 Received: from localhost (angel@localhost) by tunku.uady.mx (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2DDfMJ13433; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:41:22 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:41:22 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Angel G. Polanco Rodriguez" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: copy and paste In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: James X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thanks James ************************************ | Q.B.B.ANGEL G. POLANCO RODRIGUEZ | | UNIVERSIDAD AUTONOMA DE YUCATAN | | DIRECCION GENERAL DE | | DESARROLLO ACADEMICO | | DEPARTAMENTO DE TELEINFORMATICA| | CALLE 59 POR AV. ITZAEZ # 490 | | MERIDA, YUCATAN, MEXICO | | CODIGO POSTAL : 97 000 | | TELEFONO:52 (99) 23 74 28 | | E-mail: angel@tunku.uady.mx | | http://www.uady.mx | ************************************ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 05:39:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id FAA07837 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 05:39:52 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 13 05:39:51 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA01833; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 05:39:50 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id FAA33824; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 05:39:25 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id FAA33136 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 05:38:36 -0800 Received: from ns.shellworld.net (ns.shellworld.net [64.29.16.176]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA27132 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 05:38:36 -0800 Received: from localhost (ka3agm@localhost) by ns.shellworld.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA18420 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 08:38:29 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 08:38:29 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Walt Smith To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: feature request: Select Cur, CurThread, CurSubject, etc In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Well, it's not _quite_ what you want, but use of the aggregate command can get you awfully close and it even avoids problems created by a few email clients when composing replies to messages in a thread. Let's assume that the unique string in the thread that I want to read is "Pine 4.33 and mail forwarding"; with aggregate commands turned on in my configuration, here's the key sequence: ; t s pine 4.33 and mail forwarding Since I have autozoom turned on, the only messages I see at this point are those with the given text in the subject line. Position the cursor at the first message (Control-W followed by Control-Y) and begin reading. The item I mentioned about problems created by some email clients is that this method will capture _all_ messages with this subject. Some email clients that I've seen place some word such as "Memo" at the beginning of the subject line when replaying and having a one-key to select based on the contents of a given field would not capture both the messages without such a prefix and those with it. I am not referring here to the standard "Re:" that is already accounted for by many sort routines. -- Walt Smith - Raleigh, NC ka3agm@ns.shellworld.net From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:46:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id HAA21908 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:46:33 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 13 07:46:31 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA26945; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:46:30 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id HAA20576; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:46:09 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id HAA27566 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:44:57 -0800 Received: from exchange.quest.com ([192.77.210.14]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA19490 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:44:57 -0800 Received: by exchange.quest.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:42:51 -0800 Message-Id: <6B0E1DF22E78D411B40200508BDCCC7108AF13@houxchn01.quest.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:45:12 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Douglas Hussey To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine Exchange MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0ABD4.97220720" X-To: "'pine-info@u.washington.edu'" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0ABD4.97220720 Content-Type: text/plain Howdy I am using the latest ver of pine on a linux box. I am able to connect to our exchange server.(Our exchange server is setup to use outlook) I have set the inbox path to {exchangeserver/user=me}inbox This works just fine. However, when I try and send mail the exchange server gives me an error message saying it will not accept my connection. I know I have something set wrong. (I have listed the exchange in the smtp server section and this does not work also). Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong. Thanks for the help Doug ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0ABD4.97220720 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pine Exchange

Howdy

I am using the latest ver of pine on a linux box. I = am able to connect to our exchange server.(Our exchange server is setup = to use outlook) I have set the inbox path to = {exchangeserver/user=3Dme}inbox This works just fine. However, when I = try and send mail the exchange server gives me an error message saying = it will not accept my connection. I know I have something set wrong. (I = have listed the exchange in the smtp server section and this does not = work also).

Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong. Thanks for = the help

Doug

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0ABD4.97220720-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:27:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id KAA25357 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:27:34 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 13 10:27:33 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA10459; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:27:32 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id KAA22482; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:26:51 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id KAA24518 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:25:26 -0800 Received: from ns.shellworld.net (ns.shellworld.net [64.29.16.176]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA02097 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:25:25 -0800 Received: from localhost (ka3agm@localhost) by ns.shellworld.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25193; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:25:23 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:25:23 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Walt Smith To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: copy and paste In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Lea X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN At 10:40am on Mar 12, 2001, Lea spake thusly: > In the Unix version of Pine, to copy text, select it and press > ctrl-insert. To paste, move the cursor to where you want the text to be > and press shift-insert. And just how do you "select" this text? If I wanted to copy the above quoted material, give me a step-by-step explanation. BTW, I have tried this and I'm pretty sure it's something specific to the emulator you're using and that it's _not_ a Pine key sequence. -- Walt Smith - Raleigh, NC ka3agm@ns.shellworld.net From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:58:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id KAA18512 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:58:19 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 13 10:58:18 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA11533; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:58:14 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id KAA24722; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:57:47 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id KAA73912 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:56:58 -0800 Received: from poertel.plb.de (spira.plb.de [193.175.255.7]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA14867 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:56:57 -0800 Received: from mailplb.s1.plb.de (mailplb.s1.plb.de [10.1.0.12]) by poertel.plb.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0355C94402 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 20:01:37 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:17:10 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "h.bork" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: ? filtering In-Reply-To: <6B0E1DF22E78D411B40200508BDCCC7108AF13@houxchn01.quest.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: bork@plb.de X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello together, perhaps anyone's got some hint ? Having defined number of filter sets according to patterns in from:addresses - we want to direct mails to certain folders. But they won't work. What else should we do to really make it filter ? TIA and kind regards, hal ;-) Base: Pine 4.21 and Linux -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:18:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA25684 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:18:13 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 13 11:18:12 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA12307; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:18:11 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA04438; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:17:40 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA63764 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:16:11 -0800 Received: from exchange.quest.com ([192.77.210.14]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA22284 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:16:10 -0800 Received: by exchange.quest.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:14:04 -0800 Message-Id: <6B0E1DF22E78D411B40200508BDCCC7108AF15@houxchn01.quest.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:16:24 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Douglas Hussey To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine Exchange MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0ABF2.18829420" X-To: "'pine-info@u.washington.edu.'" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0ABF2.18829420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ok I have set my inbox-path to the list below.... nbox-path={MAILSERVER/imap/user=USERNAME}INBOX I have also verified that imap has been enabled. I did a telnet exchangeserver 143 and it answered back with ok Microsoft exchange IMAPrev1 server version 5.5.2652.42(exchangeserver)ready. However when I tried to send mail, my linux box is still using sendmail and not exchange to do the sending. When I put the exchange server in the smtp-server listing and tried to send mail it tells me that it has refused my connection. (I still can read mail just fine on my inbox on the exchange server) Doug -----Original Message----- From: William R. Van Kuyk To: Douglas Hussey Sent: 3/13/01 8:16 AM Subject: Re: Pine Exchange I have the same set up and I have no issues. Try using this for your inbox "path" inbox-path={MAILSERVER/imap/user=USERNAME}INBOX Also verify that IMAP has been enabled on the exchange server. On Mar 13, 2001 at 07:45 -0800 Douglas Hussey wrote: --> Howdy --> --> I am using the latest ver of pine on a linux box. I am able to connect --> to our exchange server.(Our exchange server is setup to use outlook) I --> have set the inbox path to {exchangeserver/user=me}inbox This works just --> fine. However, when I try and send mail the exchange server gives me an --> error message saying it will not accept my connection. I know I have --> something set wrong. (I have listed the exchange in the smtp server --> section and this does not work also). --> --> Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong. Thanks for the help --> --> Doug --> --> William R. Van Kuyk Network Engineer Department of Operations mailto:wvankuyk@icc.net Internet Commerce Corporation 45 Research Way - Suite 206 East Setauket, NY 11733 631-590-1010 x5104 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0ABF2.18829420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pine Exchange

 Ok I have set my inbox-path to the list = below....

nbox-path=3D{MAILSERVER/imap/user=3DUSERNAME}INBOX

I have also verified that imap has been enabled. I = did a telnet exchangeserver 143 and it answered  back with ok = Microsoft exchange IMAPrev1 server version = 5.5.2652.42(exchangeserver)ready. However when I tried to send mail, my = linux box is still using sendmail and not exchange to do the sending. = When I put the exchange server in the smtp-server listing and tried to = send mail it tells me that it has refused my connection.

(I still can read mail just fine on my inbox on the = exchange server)


Doug



-----Original Message-----
From: William R. Van Kuyk
To: Douglas Hussey
Sent: 3/13/01 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: Pine Exchange

I have the same set up and I have no issues.

Try using this for your inbox "path"

inbox-path=3D{MAILSERVER/imap/user=3DUSERNAME}INBOX

Also verify that IMAP has been enabled on the = exchange server.


On Mar 13, 2001 at 07:45 -0800 Douglas Hussey = wrote:

--> Howdy
-->
--> I am using the latest ver of pine on a linux = box. I am able to
connect
--> to our exchange server.(Our exchange server = is setup to use outlook)
I
--> have set the inbox path to = {exchangeserver/user=3Dme}inbox This works
just
--> fine. However, when I try and send mail the = exchange server gives me
an
--> error message saying it will not accept my = connection. I know I have
--> something set wrong. (I have listed the = exchange in the smtp server
--> section and this does not work also).
-->
--> Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong. = Thanks for the help
-->
--> Doug
-->
-->

William R. Van Kuyk
Network Engineer
Department of Operations
mailto:wvankuyk@icc.net

Internet Commerce Corporation
45 Research Way - Suite 206
East Setauket, NY  11733
631-590-1010 x5104

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0ABF2.18829420-- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:26:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA03008 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:26:10 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 13 11:26:08 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA02555; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:26:08 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA07088; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:25:42 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA84976 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:23:43 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA07444 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:23:42 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2DJNdf381293; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:23:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:23:39 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: ? filtering In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "h.bork" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** h.bork (bork@plb.de) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) Having defined number of filter sets according to patterns in :) from:addresses - we want to direct mails to certain folders. But :) they won't work. What else should we do to really make it filter ? So, how did you exactly define one of the filters that did not work?. Your question is too general, make it a little bit more precise, please. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:27:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA27743 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:27:31 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 13 11:27:30 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA02599; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:27:29 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA22054; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:26:58 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA61176 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:24:03 -0800 Received: from nimbus.anzio.com (IDENT:ras@nimbus.anzio.com [204.201.253.34]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA25894 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:24:03 -0800 Received: from localhost (ras@localhost) by nimbus.anzio.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA15432; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:20:44 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:20:44 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bob Rasmussen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: copy and paste In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Walt Smith X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Walt Smith wrote: > At 10:40am on Mar 12, 2001, Lea spake thusly: > > > In the Unix version of Pine, to copy text, select it and press > > ctrl-insert. To paste, move the cursor to where you want the text to be > > and press shift-insert. > > And just how do you "select" this text? If I wanted to copy the above > quoted material, give me a step-by-step explanation. BTW, I have tried > this and I'm pretty sure it's something specific to the emulator you're > using and that it's _not_ a Pine key sequence. 1. Position your cursor at the beginning of what you want to select. 2. Press the "select" key. Pine (actually Pico) expects a control-caret (hex 1E). Your emulator must be able to send this key. Mine does it on control-shift-6. 3. Move the cursor to the end of your selection. As you move, the selected data should be highlighted. 4. Press control-K to delete the highlighted text. That is, control-K will delete highlighted text if a highlight exists; otherwise it will delete a line. HTH -- Regards, ....Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: ras@anzio.com company e-mail: rsi@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:30:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA17988 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:30:49 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 13 11:30:48 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA12788; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:30:47 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA27388; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:29:58 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA66392 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:28:34 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA25129 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:28:33 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2DJSWf382860; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:28:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:28:32 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine Exchange In-Reply-To: <6B0E1DF22E78D411B40200508BDCCC7108AF15@houxchn01.quest.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Douglas Hussey X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Douglas Hussey (Douglas.Hussey@quest.com) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) nbox-path={MAILSERVER/imap/user=USERNAME}INBOX Douglas, Do you mean to say that defining smtp-server = MAILSERVER/user=USERNAME fails with a refused connection message?. Talk to the people offering you the smtp service. By the way, the fact that you can telnet to port 143 does not imply smtp service which is offered (usually) in port 25, so try to telnet to port 25 to verify the existence of the service. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:34:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA14260 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:34:25 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 13 11:34:23 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA12891; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:34:23 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA21404; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:33:55 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA90690 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:33:02 -0800 Received: from li-exchange-01.icc.net (mail.icc.net [208.178.142.15]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA28751 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:33:01 -0800 Received: from eagle-nest.li.icc.net ([208.178.142.151]) by li-exchange-01.icc.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id GRQM6RZ2; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:31:47 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:33:00 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "William R. Van Kuyk" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine Exchange In-Reply-To: <6B0E1DF22E78D411B40200508BDCCC7108AF15@houxchn01.quest.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Douglas Hussey X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: wvankuyk@mail.icc.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Silly question, but can you send mail through your exchange server using a another pop client?? Have you tried outlook?? If those don't work either it might be exchange.... There is a security setting within exchange that will block the sending of email based on IP or domain. On Mar 13, 2001 at 11:16 -0800 Douglas Hussey wrote: --> Ok I have set my inbox-path to the list below.... --> --> nbox-path={MAILSERVER/imap/user=USERNAME}INBOX --> --> I have also verified that imap has been enabled. I did a telnet --> exchangeserver 143 and it answered back with ok Microsoft exchange --> IMAPrev1 server version 5.5.2652.42(exchangeserver)ready. However when I --> tried to send mail, my linux box is still using sendmail and not --> exchange to do the sending. When I put the exchange server in the --> smtp-server listing and tried to send mail it tells me that it has --> refused my connection. --> --> (I still can read mail just fine on my inbox on the exchange server) --> --> --> Doug --> --> --> --> -----Original Message----- --> From: William R. Van Kuyk --> To: Douglas Hussey --> Sent: 3/13/01 8:16 AM --> Subject: Re: Pine Exchange --> --> I have the same set up and I have no issues. --> --> Try using this for your inbox "path" --> --> inbox-path={MAILSERVER/imap/user=USERNAME}INBOX --> --> Also verify that IMAP has been enabled on the exchange server. --> --> --> On Mar 13, 2001 at 07:45 -0800 Douglas Hussey wrote: --> --> --> Howdy --> --> --> --> I am using the latest ver of pine on a linux box. I am able to --> connect --> --> to our exchange server.(Our exchange server is setup to use outlook) --> --> I --> --> have set the inbox path to {exchangeserver/user=me}inbox This works --> just --> --> fine. However, when I try and send mail the exchange server gives me --> --> an --> --> error message saying it will not accept my connection. I know I have --> --> --> something set wrong. (I have listed the exchange in the smtp server --> --> section and this does not work also). --> --> --> --> Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong. Thanks for the help --> --> --> --> Doug --> --> --> --> --> --> William R. Van Kuyk --> Network Engineer --> Department of Operations --> mailto:wvankuyk@icc.net --> --> Internet Commerce Corporation --> 45 Research Way - Suite 206 --> East Setauket, NY 11733 --> 631-590-1010 x5104 --> --> William R. Van Kuyk Network Engineer Department of Operations mailto:wvankuyk@icc.net Internet Commerce Corporation 45 Research Way - Suite 206 East Setauket, NY 11733 631-590-1010 x5104 From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:44:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA03400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:44:49 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 13 11:44:48 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA03234; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:44:47 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA21458; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:44:25 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA13298 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:43:43 -0800 Received: from poertel.plb.de (spira.plb.de [193.175.255.7]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA30223 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:43:41 -0800 Received: from mailplb.s1.plb.de (mailplb.s1.plb.de [10.1.0.12]) by poertel.plb.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB43C94402; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 20:48:19 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:03:53 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "h.bork" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: ? filtering In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: bork@plb.de X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > :) Having defined number of filter sets according to patterns in > :) from:addresses - we want to direct mails to certain folders. But > :) they won't work. What else should we do to really make it filter ? > So, how did you exactly define one of the filters that did not work?. Your > question is too general, make it a little bit more precise, please. m main menue s setup r rules f filter a add filter name: pine1 from pattern: pine-info@ Current folder type: (*) e-mail INBOX filter action (*) move to folder p relative name, i.e. presumed /home//Mail/p e exit y yes e exit y yes was supposed to make Pine direct most mails from pine-info into folder p. another filter set pine2 concerns cc patterns. None of these works, neither after restart. Any hints ? TIA, kind regards, hal ;-) From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:53:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA02860 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:53:21 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 13 11:53:19 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA03584; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:53:18 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA24138; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:53:01 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA61080 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:52:30 -0800 Received: from cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in (IDENT:root@cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.73.78]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA00953 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:52:27 -0800 Received: from localhost (mohit@localhost) by cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2DK0Jb30759 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 01:30:19 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 01:30:19 +0530 (IST) Reply-To: Pine Discussion Forum Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mohit Agarwal To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: ? filtering In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** h.bork wrote on pine-info list on 2001-03-13 at 22:03 +0100: | from pattern: pine-info@ Put PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu in `sender pattern'. You'll require only 1 filter that way. -- Mohit Agarwal --------------------------------------------------------------------------- GPG Public Key: http://cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in/~mohit/mohit.gpg From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:55:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA22269 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:55:32 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 13 11:55:31 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA13638; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:55:31 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA15668; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:55:06 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA66526 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:54:09 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA01536 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:54:09 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2DJs7f386381; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:54:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:54:07 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: ? filtering In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "h.bork" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** h.bork (bork@plb.de) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) from pattern: pine-info@ :) filter action (*) move to folder p Two recommendations that come to my head, although they may not be necessary, try them anyway: 1) write the complet address of the list (pine-info@u.washington.edu) and 2) give the full path to the folder that you want to save to. Hopefully that will work. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:56:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA27765 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:56:29 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 13 11:56:27 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA03671; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:56:27 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA20012; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:56:02 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA20490 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:54:30 -0800 Received: from ns.shellworld.net (ns.shellworld.net [64.29.16.176]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA01660 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:54:29 -0800 Received: from localhost (ka3agm@localhost) by ns.shellworld.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27372; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:54:24 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:54:24 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Walt Smith To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: copy and paste In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bob Rasmussen X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Um ... as you so correctly pointed out, Bob, that deletes the highlighted text but I thought we were talking about _copying_ text, not simply moving it to a new location. I suppose one could: 1. Mark and cut the material. 2. Move to where it's supposed to be _copied_ and use Control-U to paste it. 3. Return to the original spot and press Control-U a second time ... provided that the first Control-U didn't empty the buffer. I haven't tested this out. -- Walt Smith - Raleigh, NC ka3agm@ns.shellworld.net From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:58:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA19608 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:58:48 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 13 11:58:47 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA13760; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:58:46 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA28642; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:58:08 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA90634 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:57:35 -0800 Received: from li-exchange-01.icc.net (mail.icc.net [208.178.142.15]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA18479 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:57:35 -0800 Received: from eagle-nest.li.icc.net ([208.178.142.151]) by li-exchange-01.icc.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id GRQM6R76; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:56:26 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:57:38 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "William R. Van Kuyk" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine Exchange (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: wvankuyk@mail.icc.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This wasn't meant for me, but I am forwarding it to the list..... This is a reply to Doug's original email ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:39:26 -0600 (CST) From: Preston Wade To: William R. Van Kuyk Subject: Re: Pine Exchange I think what you are trying to accomplish is to have pine act the same way as Outlook. The problem I think is that it will not. Outlook talks to exchange via a proprietary protocol. All of the third party clients I have use have to be configured to use smtp for outbound mail. Thanks, Preston On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, William R. Van Kuyk wrote: > Silly question, but can you send mail through your exchange server using a > another pop client?? Have you tried outlook?? If those don't work either > it might be exchange.... > > There is a security setting within exchange that will block the sending of > email based on IP or domain. > > > > On Mar 13, 2001 at 11:16 -0800 Douglas Hussey wrote: > > --> Ok I have set my inbox-path to the list below.... > --> > --> nbox-path={MAILSERVER/imap/user=USERNAME}INBOX > --> > --> I have also verified that imap has been enabled. I did a telnet > --> exchangeserver 143 and it answered back with ok Microsoft exchange > --> IMAPrev1 server version 5.5.2652.42(exchangeserver)ready. However when I > --> tried to send mail, my linux box is still using sendmail and not > --> exchange to do the sending. When I put the exchange server in the > --> smtp-server listing and tried to send mail it tells me that it has > --> refused my connection. > --> > --> (I still can read mail just fine on my inbox on the exchange server) > --> > --> > --> Doug > --> > --> > --> > --> -----Original Message----- > --> From: William R. Van Kuyk > --> To: Douglas Hussey > --> Sent: 3/13/01 8:16 AM > --> Subject: Re: Pine Exchange > --> > --> I have the same set up and I have no issues. > --> > --> Try using this for your inbox "path" > --> > --> inbox-path={MAILSERVER/imap/user=USERNAME}INBOX > --> > --> Also verify that IMAP has been enabled on the exchange server. > --> > --> > --> On Mar 13, 2001 at 07:45 -0800 Douglas Hussey wrote: > --> > --> --> Howdy > --> --> > --> --> I am using the latest ver of pine on a linux box. I am able to > --> connect > --> --> to our exchange server.(Our exchange server is setup to use outlook) > --> > --> I > --> --> have set the inbox path to {exchangeserver/user=me}inbox This works > --> just > --> --> fine. However, when I try and send mail the exchange server gives me > --> > --> an > --> --> error message saying it will not accept my connection. I know I have > --> > --> --> something set wrong. (I have listed the exchange in the smtp server > --> --> section and this does not work also). > --> --> > --> --> Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong. Thanks for the help > --> --> > --> --> Doug > --> --> > --> --> > --> > --> William R. Van Kuyk > --> Network Engineer > --> Department of Operations > --> mailto:wvankuyk@icc.net > --> > --> Internet Commerce Corporation > --> 45 Research Way - Suite 206 > --> East Setauket, NY 11733 > --> 631-590-1010 x5104 > --> > --> > > William R. Van Kuyk > Network Engineer > Department of Operations > mailto:wvankuyk@icc.net > > Internet Commerce Corporation > 45 Research Way - Suite 206 > East Setauket, NY 11733 > 631-590-1010 x5104 > > From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:29:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id SAA26109 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:29:48 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 13 18:29:47 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA27707; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:29:42 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id SAA26700; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:29:24 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA82132 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:28:03 -0800 Received: from bom2.vsnl.net.in (bom2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA19474 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:28:02 -0800 Received: from hal9k.myip.org (unknown [203.197.57.45]) by bom2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC8E1D253 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:57:58 +0530 (GMT+5:30) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9k.myip.org (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA03755 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:08:28 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:08:28 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Satya To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: copy and paste In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: satyap@hal9k.myip.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mar 13, 2001 at 14:54, Walt Smith wrote: >1. Mark and cut the material. Paste it again, immediately, without moving the cursor. Saves you having to come back later. >2. Move to where it's supposed to be _copied_ and use Control-U to paste >it. ...again. Right. >provided that the first Control-U didn't empty the buffer. I haven't ^U doesn't empty the buffer. -- Satya. US-bound grad students! For pre-apps, see FREE! Email reminder service at http://satya.virtualave.net/rem.html From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:02:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id MAA08026 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:02:44 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 14 12:02:43 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA11453; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:02:43 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA24722; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:02:23 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA30032; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:00:07 -0800 Received: from Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (starback@tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu [128.95.135.58]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA00756; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:00:07 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:53:33 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mark Crispin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: re: Pine with SSL/IMAP In-Reply-To: <200103141947.f2EJl8N05748@astro.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Sender: Mark Crispin X-To: Matt Soccio X-Cc: imap@u.washington.edu, pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:47:14 -0500 (EST), Matt Soccio wrote: > I updated Pine to the latest version (4.33) to get the SSL support. I am > able to connect to port 143 with Pine, but I am unable to make a useful > connection over port 993. Did you build Pine with SSL support? Unlike the PC Pine binary, the pre-built UNIX binaries on UW's FTP site are not built with SSL! > {server:993/user="user"}INBOX > {server:993/novalidate-cert/user="user"}INBOX Won't work. Asks for non-SSL IMAP session on port 993 (SSL IMAP) > {server/ssl/novalidate-cert/user="user"}INBOX > {server:993/ssl/novalidate-cert/user="user"}INBOX Will work with an SSL-built Pine to any SSL IMAP server. > {server/ssl/user="user"}INBOX > {server:993/ssl/user="user"}INBOX Will work with an SSL-built Pine to an SSL IMAP server with certification authority signed certificates. > and all of these settings cause Pine to claim that there is an invalid > remote specification. That indicates that you're using a non-SSL Pine. > Does anyone know of a way to get more debug info so that can see more > of what is going on between pine and imaps? The fact that the server syslog indicated that no SSL negotiation was ever attempted, and that you got "invalid remote specification" from Pine should have suggested to you that maybe something was wrong with Pine. Indeed something was, you tried to use SSL with a Pine that didn't have SSL. > Does the /novalidate-cert qualifier > work with this version of Pine? With an SSL-enabled Pine, yes. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:14:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id PAA29845 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:14:54 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 15 15:14:52 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA00585; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:14:52 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id PAA22344; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:14:31 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id PAA22532 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:12:25 -0800 Received: from wrath.cs.utah.edu (wrath.cs.utah.edu [155.99.198.100]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA11381 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:12:25 -0800 Received: from kamas.cs.utah.edu (kamas.cs.utah.edu [155.99.212.86]) by wrath.cs.utah.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2FNCL500271 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:12:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (newbold@localhost) by kamas.cs.utah.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2FNCLA07618 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:12:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from newbold@cs.utah.edu) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:12:21 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mac Newbold To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Extended characters in pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: kamas.cs.utah.edu: newbold owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I frequently find myself writing messages in foreign languages, and as of yet I haven't been able to find a convenient way to write characters with accents or n with ~ yet. I've always been able to read them just fine, but never write them. Is there an easy way to write these extended or accented characters in Pine? What other foreign language support is there in Pine? Thanks, Mac Newbold -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Mac Newbold | Univ. of Utah Computer Science Dept. | | newbold@cs.utah.edu | http://www.cs.utah.edu/~newbold | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:27:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id RAA27861 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:27:19 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 15 17:27:16 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA04625; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:27:16 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id RAA25932; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:26:58 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id RAA48246 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:25:24 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA01885 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:25:24 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2G1PNf48676; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:25:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:25:23 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Extended characters in pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-To: Mac Newbold X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mx2.cac.washington.edu id RAA04625 *** Mac Newbold (newbold@cs.utah.edu) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) Is there an easy way to write these extended or accented characters :) in Pine? What other foreign language support is there in Pine? Everything depends on the meaning of the word "easy". Probably you have set your character-set variable to something like "iso-8859-1", so that you can read them fine. There are several ways to input these kind of characters, here go some suggestions: 1) Press ESC ESC n, where "n" is a number, when n is 234 you will see th= e letter =EA, when n is 233 you'll see =E9, etc. "n" is the ascii code of t= he letter you want to input. 2) Apply a patch that I wrote that allows you to input those characters in the "latex" way, if you apply the patch, you need to press CTRL-\ to input the accent, then type the accent type and finally the letter over which you'll put the accent, so ^\'a =3D =E1, ^\"e =3D =EB, ^\~n =3D =F1,= etc. The complete description of all the "accents" that are supported, together with the patch can be found in my web site (address below). 3) use some type of script and use sending-filters to do the job. --=20 Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:26:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id CAA09063 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:26:23 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 16 02:26:20 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA06111; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:26:19 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id CAA20056; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:26:01 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id CAA90226 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:24:12 -0800 Received: from localhost.edlund.org (m96.ryd.student.liu.se [130.236.214.96]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA14956 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:24:11 -0800 Received: by localhost.edlund.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 50EA54113D; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:24:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.edlund.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7844113C; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:24:07 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:24:07 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Henrik Edlund To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Extended characters in pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mac Newbold X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Mac Newbold wrote: > I frequently find myself writing messages in foreign languages, and as > of yet I haven't been able to find a convenient way to write > characters with accents or n with ~ yet. I've always been able to read > them just fine, but never write them. I input them fine from my normal keyboard. -- Henrik Edlund http://www.edlund.org/ "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Naturally they became heroes." Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:15:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA05060 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:15:21 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 16 09:15:19 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA15765; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:15:19 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAA26592; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:15:02 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA58110 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:13:29 -0800 Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com ([199.183.24.200]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA30062 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:13:29 -0800 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2GHDPT28073; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:13:25 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:13:25 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RFE: New PINE feature request shuffle incoming folders MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: X-Authentication-Warning: devserv.devel.redhat.com: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In the incoming folders list, it would be nice if you could change the order of the folders right in the PINE UI. Currently, new folders are added to the end regardless of sort order or other mechanics. I then quit PINE and edit the .pinerc and reorder the folders to my liking. I never even thought of requesting it as a feature until now, but it would indeed make a useful feature. If there is some way of doing this already, please let me know. TIA -- Mike A. Harris Shipping/mailing address: OS Systems Engineer 190 Pittsburgh Ave., Sault Ste. Marie, Red Hat Inc. Ontario, Canada, P6C 5B3 http://www.redhat.com Phone: (705)949-2136 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:48:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA28522 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:48:03 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 16 09:48:01 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA16864; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:48:00 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id JAB21240; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:47:01 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id JAA84624 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:46:05 -0800 Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA06632 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:46:05 -0800 Received: from smtp1.cac.washington.edu (smtp1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.12]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id JAA14727 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:46:05 -0800 Received: from HUBERTW2K_NDC.nebula.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated) by smtp1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.02) with ESMTP id f2GHk5t02832 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:46:05 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:46:04 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: RFE: New PINE feature request shuffle incoming folders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: hubert@cac.washington.edu X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Mike, There is a $ $huffle command when you are in the incoming folders list. This was added fairly recently (maybe 4.30?). -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:10:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA01060 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:10:50 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 16 11:10:49 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA28137; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:10:48 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA25060; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:10:30 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA61022 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:09:18 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA02758 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:09:18 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2GJ94f169421; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:09:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:09:04 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Extended characters in pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-To: Henrik Edlund X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mx2.cac.washington.edu id LAA28137 *** Henrik Edlund (henrik@edlund.org) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) I input them fine from my normal keyboard. The original question refers to what do you do when you can't really inpu= t these accents from your keyboard. I spent a long time writing incorrect spanish before I found a way to input an accent, since I could not do it from my keyboard. The patch I use today was my second try, I used to use sending-filters to do it, and entered something like \'e, which the filte= r interpreted as =E9. Today I have a keyboard (well, not all the time) that allows me to enter accents from the keyboard, but there's no logic about which combination of keys gives you which accent. Pine's interface to enter special characters means that you need to learn a couple of ascii codes, for spanish this number is 14, for french it's much more. It's too much. When you can't do this input from the keyboard one needs a way to d= o this, that will be easy to remember and that uses the minimal amount of kestrokes. I would love to listen any suggestion on how to do this. --=20 Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:18:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA10792 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:17:58 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 16 11:17:57 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA28379; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:17:57 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id LAA18582; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:17:34 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA58032 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:16:31 -0800 Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com ([199.183.24.200]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA04710 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:16:31 -0800 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2GJFqX14886; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:15:52 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:15:52 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: RFE: New PINE feature request shuffle incoming folders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Steve Hubert X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: devserv.devel.redhat.com: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Steve Hubert wrote: > There is a $ $huffle command when you are in the incoming folders list. >This was added fairly recently (maybe 4.30?). ARGH!! I figured it should be there and looked to no avail. I guess i should have looked harder. I knew that either it would be a useful feature request or else someone would embarass me by pointing it out. ;o) Thanks for the pointer Steve, it works great. -- Mike A. Harris Shipping/mailing address: OS Systems Engineer 190 Pittsburgh Ave., Sault Ste. Marie, Red Hat Inc. Ontario, Canada, P6C 5B3 http://www.redhat.com Phone: (705)949-2136 From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:21:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id NAA09187 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:21:09 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 16 13:21:07 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA23706; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:21:06 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id NAA27626; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:20:35 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA45430 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:19:45 -0800 Received: from ns.mccme.ru (ns.mccme.ru [195.133.68.22]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA04629 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:19:42 -0800 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.mccme.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id XAA24697; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:55:55 +0300 Received: from localhost (IDENT:ivan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zephyrous.ru (8.11.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id f2GLFEF07730; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:15:14 +0300 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:15:11 +0300 (MSK) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ivan Zakharyaschev To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Extended characters in pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=koi8-r X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mx1.cac.washington.edu id NAA23706 Hello, Eduardo! On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > *** Henrik Edlund (henrik@edlund.org) wrote in the pine-info list > today: > > :) I input them fine from my normal keyboard. > > The original question refers to what do you do when you can't really > input > these accents from your keyboard. I spent a long time writing > incorrect > spanish before I found a way to input an accent, since I could not do > it > from my keyboard. The patch I use today was my second try, I used to > use > sending-filters to do it, and entered something like \'e, which the > filter > interpreted as =E9. Today I have a keyboard (well, not all the time) th= at > allows me to enter accents from the keyboard, but there's no logic > about > which combination of keys gives you which accent. Pine's interface to > enter special characters means that you need to learn a couple of ascii > codes, for spanish this number is 14, for french it's much more. It's > too > much. When you can't do this input from the keyboard one needs a way to > do > this, that will be easy to remember and that uses the minimal amount of > kestrokes. I would love to listen any suggestion on how to do this. In Linux kernels, there's a possibility to describe key combinations that are composed together to produce a single input character on a console. Perhaps, that's a well-known feature... Anyway, here's an example: one, having console-tools installed, can do th= e following: # find out what the code for Right Alt is: $ showkey --timeout 3 kb mode was XLATE press any key (program terminates after 3s of last keypress)... keycode 28 release keycode 100 press keycode 100 release # load a keymap $ loadkeys plain keycode 100 =3D Compose compose ''' 'e' to '=E9' ^D # Now one can press Right Alt, then ', then e, and he'll get an =E9 in th= e # input (for me that's a Russian letter). In fact, usually, all this hasn't to be done, because many useful compose rules are already loaded by default. To find out whether it is so, you ca= n run: $ dumpkeys -1 | grep Compose control keycode 52 =3D Compose plain keycode 100 =3D Compose $ dumpkeys | grep compose Probably there are similar tools in kbd package, too. I do not know anything about other Unices. Best regards, Ivan From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:17:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id PAA05700 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:17:07 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 18 15:17:06 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA13378; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:17:05 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id PAA08476; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:16:23 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id PAA61938 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:08:45 -0800 Received: from mailman.packetdesign.com (dns.packetdesign.com [65.192.41.10]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA03659 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:08:44 -0800 Received: from packetdesign.com (main-fw-eth1.packetdesign.com [192.168.0.254]) by mailman.packetdesign.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2IN8Te09447; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:08:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from casner@acm.org) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:11:25 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Stephen Casner To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: File locking on FAT filesysem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm running pine 4.33 on FreeBSD and trying to access some mail files stored on a FAT filesystem mounted thusly: /dev/ad0s1 /win msdos rw,-u=casner,-g=staff 0 0 Access to mbx files works fine, but when I try to access a Berkeley mail format file, I first get "[Opening "mail.foo" <-> ]" with a disk access happening once per second for a long time, then "Mailbox /win/casner/mail/mail.foo is locked, will override in 300 seconds..." (BTW, it counts down at a rate of about 15 seconds every 5 seconds). At that point, the mailbox is opened. I've read the locking.txt documentation, I've run debug -9, and I'm looking a the sources, but I haven't figured out what is going on. I see several modules in pine and c-client which print this warning, and I'm not sure which is involved. I have not figured out where in the code it does while it is initially stuck trying to open the file. If I create a folder collection in a directory of the Unix filesystem and put there a symlink to the file /win/casner/mail/mail.foo, then the open works without delay. Therefore, my guess is that pine is having trouble either reading or creating a lock file, and that pine does not following the symlink of the mail file to try to put the lock file in the same directory. (I did see some code to make sure that the lock file itself is not a symlink, but maybe there's not check for the mail file being a symlink.) Is the problem that as I have mounted the FAT filesystem the files all appear to be owned by "casner" and pine is trying to create the lock file as somebody else? Or perhaps that the FAT filesystem doesn't allow linking? I see a comment about FAT filesystems on linux in crexcl() not allowing linking, so the lock file is created directly instead. Would that not work in my situation for some reason? -- Steve -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:42:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id SAA03899 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:42:15 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 18 18:42:14 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA16811; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:42:13 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id SAA07086; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:41:50 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA09486 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:39:22 -0800 Received: from lantana.iitm.ernet.in (lantana.tenet.res.in [206.103.12.154]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA10993 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:39:18 -0800 Received: from localhost (priyag@localhost) by lantana.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA31227 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 08:14:57 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 08:14:57 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "SreePriya. G" To: Pine Discussion Forum In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello: Does anyone have any information on the internationalisation/localisation effort for Pine?I request you to kindly give me the pointers to any info on this, if any. Thankyou Sreepriya -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 04:29:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id EAA24544 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 04:29:26 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 19 04:29:24 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA02762; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 04:29:24 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id EAA03854; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 04:29:01 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id EAA26506 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 04:27:59 -0800 Received: from users.assist.ro (users.assist.ro [194.102.130.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA08619 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 04:27:23 -0800 Received: from dialup06-pm1.assist.ro (IDENT:silviu@dialup06-pm1.assist.ro [194.102.130.38]) by users.assist.ro (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2JCQgw00870 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:26:42 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:33:35 +0200 (EET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Silviu Cojocaru To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Problems with pine and enriched format text MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="8323328-1597651487-985004870=:746" Content-ID: X-To: X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --8323328-1597651487-985004870=:746 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: The attached text is an email I have received and pine says that it's text is "enriched". Well that text causes pine to go nuts with it's colors and after reading it, all text goes to a bright white color, like it's bold or something. What's going on ? 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Larsen" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: File locking on FAT filesysem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Stephen Casner X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: cannac.ampr.org: karl owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Your using a Unix pine and it wants to do it's thing with files on a FAT filesystem. This won't work. The windows pine does things properly using FAT. Your solution, using sim links is proper and works. Be happy. On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Stephen Casner wrote: > I'm running pine 4.33 on FreeBSD and trying to access some mail files > stored on a FAT filesystem mounted thusly: > > /dev/ad0s1 /win msdos rw,-u=casner,-g=staff 0 0 > > Access to mbx files works fine, but when I try to access a Berkeley > mail format file, I first get "[Opening "mail.foo" <-> ]" with a disk > access happening once per second for a long time, then "Mailbox > /win/casner/mail/mail.foo is locked, will override in 300 seconds..." > (BTW, it counts down at a rate of about 15 seconds every 5 seconds). > At that point, the mailbox is opened. > > I've read the locking.txt documentation, I've run debug -9, and I'm > looking a the sources, but I haven't figured out what is going on. > I see several modules in pine and c-client which print this warning, > and I'm not sure which is involved. I have not figured out where in > the code it does while it is initially stuck trying to open the file. > > If I create a folder collection in a directory of the Unix filesystem > and put there a symlink to the file /win/casner/mail/mail.foo, then > the open works without delay. Therefore, my guess is that pine is > having trouble either reading or creating a lock file, and that pine > does not following the symlink of the mail file to try to put the lock > file in the same directory. (I did see some code to make sure that > the lock file itself is not a symlink, but maybe there's not check for > the mail file being a symlink.) > > Is the problem that as I have mounted the FAT filesystem the files all > appear to be owned by "casner" and pine is trying to create the lock > file as somebody else? > > Or perhaps that the FAT filesystem doesn't allow linking? I see a > comment about FAT filesystems on linux in crexcl() not allowing > linking, so the lock file is created directly instead. Would that not > work in my situation for some reason? > -- Steve > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Yours Truly, - Karl F. Larsen, k5di@arrl.net (505) 524-3303 - From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:40:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id WAA08073 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:40:05 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 19 22:40:04 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA32486; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:40:04 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id WAA26702; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:39:43 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id WAA62926 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:36:00 -0800 Received: from mailman.packetdesign.com (dns.packetdesign.com [65.192.41.10]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA24870 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:36:00 -0800 Received: from packetdesign.com (main-fw-eth1.packetdesign.com [192.168.0.254]) by mailman.packetdesign.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2K6Zre26938; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:35:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from casner@acm.org) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:39:02 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Stephen Casner To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: File locking on FAT filesysem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: X-To: "Karl F. Larsen" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Karl F. Larsen wrote: > Your using a Unix pine and it wants to do it's thing with files on a FAT > filesystem. This won't work. The windows pine does things properly using > FAT. Your solution, using sim links is proper and works. Be happy. Well, yes it works, but that means as I create new folders in the FAT filesystem I have to manually create new symlinks from the Unix filesystem to point to them. I suppose I could write a script. The thing is, there are hints in the code that someone thought this should work. -- Steve From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:34:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id KAA12570 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:34:16 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 20 10:34:14 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA10535; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:34:09 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id KAA30996; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:33:46 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id KAA24642 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:32:42 -0800 Received: from atlrel2.hp.com (atlrel2.hp.com [156.153.255.202]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA22949 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:32:37 -0800 Received: from shplatt.rose.hp.com (shplatt.rose.hp.com [15.29.43.228]) by atlrel2.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33DA94C2 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:32:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (griff@localhost) by shplatt.rose.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.0) with ESMTP id KAA28341 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:34:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:34:01 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jared Griffith To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Filter enhancement MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I just thought I'd throw this out to the pine community. One enhancement to pine that would be nice is to add attachment saving to the filter actions. One could isolate a message with the current pattern capabilities and then search a matched message for attachment(s) that fit another pattern. Those attachments that match could then be saved to disk. If this already exists in some fashion... then I'll just sit quietly and eat my shoe. :) jared -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 00:26:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id AAA07491 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 00:26:18 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 21 00:26:18 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA00575; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 00:26:16 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id AAA31868; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 00:25:59 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id AAA10884 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 00:20:49 -0800 Received: from ux-2s02.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de (ux-2s02.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de [194.95.66.3]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA21878 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 00:20:49 -0800 Received: from ux-2s02.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de (mail@rr-2s01.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de [194.95.66.2]) by ux-2s02.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de (8.11.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f2L8KWj24026; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:20:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from [10.110.1.10] (helo=pc-2m10.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de) by ux-2s02.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14fdr9-0002Ts-00; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:20:36 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:20:29 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steffen Kaiser To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: UW imapd v4.21 vs. v4.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: skaise2a@rr-2s01a.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, I upgraded my UW imapd from v4.21 to v4.33 (both shipped with pine of that particular release number). It worked as usual, except with biff from Netscape Communicator packages v4.7x (biff == the small Netscape Mail Notification util). Biff is entitled to use the same authentification information as the Messenger itself and everybody using the IMAP protocoll is effected. When an user logs in into imapd v4.33 using the Netscape Messenger, the logfile reads [compacted]: imapd[446]: [ID 576018 mail.debug] port 32804 service init from 127.0.0.1 imapd[446]: [ID 666661 mail.info] Authenticated user=XYZ host=localhost imapd[446]: [ID 533678 mail.info] Logout user=XYZ host=localhost ["localhost" is correct, BTW.] Using "biff" the logfile reads [compacted]: imapd[22008]: [ID 576018 mail.debug] port 56054 service init from 127.0.0.1 imapd[22008]: [ID 234311 mail.info] Login user=XYZ host=localhost imapd[22008]: [ID 533678 mail.info] Logout user=XYZ host=localhost BUT biff endlessly prompts for the user password. Using biff with imapd v4.21 the logfile reads [compacted]: imapd4.21[22250]: [ID 576018 mail.debug] port 56280 service init from 127.0.0.1 imapd4.21[22250]: [ID 234311 mail.info] Login user=XYZ host=localhost imapd4.21[22250]: [ID 533678 mail.info] Logout user=XYZ host=localhost [The different service name simply reflects the different file name.] And biff successfully logs in into imapd. === Both demons were built using "build gs5" on Solaris 8 with GCC v2.95.2; v4.33 automatically detected and included SSL, which is working. ipop3d v4.33 and biff are working together as before. === Is there something I can do, so biff is working with v4.33? I want to upgrade in order to use the SSL capabilities of UW imapd. Regards, -- Steffen Kaiser FH Bonn-Rhein-Sieg | e-mail: Steffen.Kaiser@FH-Rhein-Sieg.DE FB Angewandte Informatik | Grantham Allee 20 | phone : +49 2241/865-203 53757 Sankt Augustin | Germany - Deutschland | fax : +49 2241/865-761 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:12:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id MAA09082 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:12:05 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 21 12:11:59 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA25515; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:11:57 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA22030; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:11:32 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA65944 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:07:41 -0800 Received: from porgy.srv.nld.sonera.net (mbox-01.soneraplaza.nl [195.66.15.137]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2LK7b700653 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:07:38 -0800 Received: from qn-212-127-150-141.quicknet.nl ([212.127.150.141]:1371 "EHLO rotterdam.quicknet.nl") by soneramail.nl with ESMTP id ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:06:33 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:05:06 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ralph Slooten To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Url View MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi there all, I just downloaded, compiled and installed that latest Pine. Everything seems to be working great, however there is one thing I cannot seem to work out... Before, when there was a URL in a message, I could click it and it would then ask me if I wanted to view the url in my externel viewer. I had configured this to open in links. Ok, it worked great then, however now when browsing through a message, the cursor doesn't even jump to the next URL like it used to. What could be the problem here? It does however find the "email management" part of E-mails from mailing lists, just not URLs. What am I doing wrong? Many thanks Ralph -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6uQl1X7G3dHo08yERApaxAKCeAGUjAR1P8+ZYudya7ato9ahhUQCbB0zC qTxwdzo/Mz+8bHt5Os18DCI= =azCM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:18:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id MAA19460 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:18:15 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 21 12:18:14 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA19998; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:18:13 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA25918; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:17:56 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA09136 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:15:51 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2LKFpU04398 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:15:51 -0800 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2LKFmj305087; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:15:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:15:48 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Url View In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ralph Slooten X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Ralph Slooten (ralph.slooten@quicknet.nl) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) It does however find the "email management" part of E-mails from mailing :) lists, just not URLs. What am I doing wrong? I would suggest that you check if you have the following configuration options enabled: [X] enable-msg-view-urls [X] enable-msg-view-web-hostnames -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:21:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id MAA23925 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:21:02 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 21 12:21:01 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA25805; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:20:59 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA11158; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:20:43 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA45346 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:18:43 -0800 Received: from porgy.srv.nld.sonera.net (mbox-01.soneraplaza.nl [195.66.15.137]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2LKIc704376 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:18:43 -0800 Received: from qn-212-127-150-141.quicknet.nl ([212.127.150.141]:1378 "EHLO rotterdam.quicknet.nl") by soneramail.nl with ESMTP id ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:18:13 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:16:37 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ralph Slooten To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Url View In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sorry, forgot to mention: Linux-Mandrake 7.2, Pine 4.33 ;-) On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Ralph Slooten wrote: > Hi there all, > > I just downloaded, compiled and installed that latest Pine. Everything > seems to be working great, however there is one thing I cannot seem to work > out... Before, when there was a URL in a message, I could click it and it > would then ask me if I wanted to view the url in my externel viewer. I had > configured this to open in links. Ok, it worked great then, however now > when browsing through a message, the cursor doesn't even jump to the next > URL like it used to. What could be the problem here? > > It does however find the "email management" part of E-mails from mailing > lists, just not URLs. What am I doing wrong? > > Many thanks > > Ralph -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6uQwoX7G3dHo08yERAhcuAJ9b4xF465wOe3hade1rD/ITj1ydtACfZwIG WMJm+aQB8VCr+1j3i4Erkqo= =+SVb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:36:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id MAA07811 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:36:19 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 21 12:36:19 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA26367; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:36:17 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id MAA24626; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:35:52 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA10382 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:33:42 -0800 Received: from porgy.srv.nld.sonera.net (mbox-01.soneraplaza.nl [195.66.15.137]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2LKXfM09036 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:33:41 -0800 Received: from qn-212-127-150-141.quicknet.nl ([212.127.150.141]:1467 "EHLO rotterdam.quicknet.nl") by soneramail.nl with ESMTP id ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:33:25 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:31:45 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ralph Slooten To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Url View In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dooooh, I missed that one... must have looked over it about 10 times ;-) Thanks, works great =) Ralph On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > *** Ralph Slooten (ralph.slooten@quicknet.nl) wrote in the pine-info list today: > > :) It does however find the "email management" part of E-mails from mailing > :) lists, just not URLs. What am I doing wrong? > > I would suggest that you check if you have the following configuration > options enabled: > > [X] enable-msg-view-urls > [X] enable-msg-view-web-hostnames > > -- > Eduardo > http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6uQ+1X7G3dHo08yERAtq8AKCoOMOlXNkh5cLqKJCMZaVtWArh2gCdFYCa zZKctMvNyd3bzq3RvTwMlzc= =7vfe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:06:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id TAA17002 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:06:42 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 21 19:06:42 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA32137; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:06:40 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id TAA23340; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:06:15 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id TAA29732 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:04:45 -0800 Received: from roadrunner.dosland.com (dosman.agoron.com [207.86.97.180]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2M34h709539 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:04:44 -0800 Received: from tao.agoron.com (andy.dosland.com [192.168.0.1]) by roadrunner.dosland.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA01952 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:13:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from andy@tao.agoron.com) Message-Id: <3AB96BCA.2E258324@tao.agoron.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:04:42 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Andy Malato To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Saving login information in PC-PINE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, Does anyone know if there is a way to save login information (login and password) in PC-PINE, so one does not have to reenter it each time pine is invoked? Thanks, ---Andy -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:17:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id TAA07589 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:17:25 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 21 19:17:25 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA32305; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:17:23 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id TAA23978; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:17:01 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id TAA36182 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:16:29 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2M3GTU14857 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:16:29 -0800 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2M3GRj368573; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:16:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:16:27 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Saving login information in PC-PINE In-Reply-To: <3AB96BCA.2E258324@tao.agoron.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Andy Malato X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Andy Malato (andy@tao.agoron.com) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) Does anyone know if there is a way to save login information (login and :) password) in PC-PINE, so one does not have to reenter it each time pine is :) invoked? Hello Andy, In the same directory where the PINERC file, create an empty file called "pine.pwd". After this, open Pine and you'll get a prompt about saving the password there. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:30:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id PAA16574 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:30:45 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 22 15:30:45 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA04157; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:30:44 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id PAA34436; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:30:22 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id PAA92118 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:24:41 -0800 Received: from Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (johan@tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu [128.95.135.58]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2MNOfb05441 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:24:41 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:24:36 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mark Crispin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: UW imapd v4.21 vs. v4.33 #010321@00:20:54.12489 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Steffen Kaiser wrote: > It worked as usual, except with biff from Netscape Communicator packages > v4.7x (biff == the small Netscape Mail Notification util). There is a known bug with the "nsnotify" program. That program does not correctly implement IMAP protocol, and breaks with more modern IMAP servers. You should report the problem to Netscape. -- Mark -- http://staff.washington.edu/mrc Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:10:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id SAA17878 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:10:45 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 22 18:10:45 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA03036; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:10:43 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id SAA20268; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:10:18 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA13570 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:08:52 -0800 Received: from vindra.sk.upol.cz (IDENT:postfix@vindra.sk.upol.cz [158.194.143.31]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2N28p704420 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:08:52 -0800 Received: by vindra.sk.upol.cz (Postfix, from userid 500) id F41F32CAB9; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 03:07:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vindra.sk.upol.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id E922E2C985 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 03:07:21 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 03:07:21 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jindrich Sarson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Number of unreaded msgs in folder list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I'd like to know, if is possible to view in folder list number of unreaded, new and all messages in folders. Something like: INBOX(2/3/20) linux(1/3/55) private(1/1/2) Is this possible? Have a nice day, Jindrich Sarson -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 04:32:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id EAA30994 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 04:32:16 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 23 04:32:16 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA14883; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 04:32:15 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id EAA10200; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 04:31:52 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id EAA77008 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 04:30:19 -0800 Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2NCUFb11660 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 04:30:16 -0800 Received: from umz.sia.net.au (modem040.lestat.comcen.com.au [203.56.244.220]) by angel.comcen.com.au (8.11.2/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f2NCVrG40251 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 23:31:53 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010323232306.00abbd70@mail.sia.net.au> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 23:31:15 +1100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Paul De Luca To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine-debug blues Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Sender: pdeluca@mail.sia.net.au X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, My problem is as follows: Pine keeps dropping .pine-debug files in my home directory. The only way to stop it is by using the command line option "pine -d 0" every time I wish to start pine. I expierience no notable problems when using pine, besides these files appearing in my home directory every time I start the program without the previously mentioned options. After looking through the debug file I came accross the suscpicious line: ioctl(TIOCWINSZ) failed :Invalid argument Does anyone know exactly what the problem is, or how to go about solving it? If needed I will post the whole dubug file to the list. ----------------------------------------- Paul De Luca Email: pdeluca@sia.net.au Ph: +61 414 225561 ----------------------------------------- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 06:17:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id GAA30104 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 06:17:14 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 23 06:17:14 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA22465; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 06:17:12 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id GAA26170; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 06:16:49 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id GAA93842 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 06:16:03 -0800 Received: from VMS2.TARLETON.EDU (vms2.tarleton.edu [165.95.23.152]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2NEG3U29024 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 06:16:03 -0800 Received: from conversion.vms.tarleton.edu by vms.tarleton.edu (PMDF V6.0-24 #36735) id <01K1J2IWTZSG93LEUC@vms.tarleton.edu> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:17:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Tarleton.edu ("port 4663"@ir-rebecca.tarleton.edu [165.95.21.28]) by vms.tarleton.edu (PMDF V6.0-24 #36735) with ESMTP id <01K1J2IW4YGC93L0I3@vms.tarleton.edu> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:17:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3ABB5AA9.81FC8907@Tarleton.edu> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:16:09 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Rebecca Goodwin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Deleting folder MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am using PINE 4.21L. I have accidentally pasted a line of text in my folder sections. Now this line of text is the name of a folder. First I tried deleting the folder, the delete failed. Next, I tried to rename the folder and then delete it, but the rename failed. How can a get this folder deleted? Thank You Rebecca Goodwin Systems Analyst Tarleton State University -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:20:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id HAA13245 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:20:07 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 23 07:20:07 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA23843; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:20:06 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id HAA33806; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:19:46 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id HAA92644 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:18:58 -0800 Received: from ns.shellworld.net (ns.shellworld.net [64.29.16.176]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2NFIp700686 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:18:58 -0800 Received: from localhost (ka3agm@localhost) by ns.shellworld.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17121; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:18:47 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:18:47 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Walt Smith To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine-debug blues In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010323232306.00abbd70@mail.sia.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Paul De Luca X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Create an alias so that when you enter pine at the prompt, pine -d 0 is what's actually executed. -- Walt Smith - Raleigh, NC ka3agm@ns.shellworld.net From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:54:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id HAA02272 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:54:44 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 23 07:54:44 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA19036; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:54:43 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id HAA33690; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:54:24 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id HAA40056 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:53:41 -0800 Received: from bom9.vsnl.net.in (bom9.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.72]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2NFraU12679 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:53:40 -0800 Received: from hal9k.myip.org (unknown [203.197.58.187]) by bom9.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8691CF12 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:15:30 +0500 (GMT+0500) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9k.myip.org (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA01408 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:20:03 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:20:03 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Satya To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Deleting folder In-Reply-To: <3ABB5AA9.81FC8907@Tarleton.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: satyap@hal9k.myip.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mar 23, 2001 at 08:16, Rebecca Goodwin wrote: >I am using PINE 4.21L. >I have accidentally pasted a line of text in my folder sections. Now >this line of text is the name of a folder. First I tried deleting the >folder, the delete failed. Next, I tried to rename the folder and then >delete it, but the rename failed. How can a get this folder deleted? Go into the filesystem? Look in directory mail in the home directory. Try rm. -- Satya. US-bound grad students! For pre-apps, see Sigmentation fault. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:56:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id OAA15280 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:55:59 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 23 14:55:58 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA06555; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:55:56 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id OAA32514; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:55:29 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id OAA85620 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:54:00 -0800 Received: from spica.cse.sc.edu (spica.cse.sc.edu [129.252.131.9]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2NMs0U28512 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:54:00 -0800 Received: (qmail 25309 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2001 22:53:59 -0000 Received: from mum.cse.sc.edu (HELO mum.cs.sc.edu) (129.252.11.144) by spica.cse.sc.edu with SMTP; 23 Mar 2001 22:53:59 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:53:59 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine-debug blues In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010323232306.00abbd70@mail.sia.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine-info Mailing List X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Paul De Luca wrote: > Pine keeps dropping .pine-debug files in my home directory. The > only way to stop it is by using the command line option "pine -d > 0" every time I wish to start pine. http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/usage.html#5.3 -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cse.sc.edu http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:05:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id PAA07434 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:05:18 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 23 15:05:18 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA01331; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:05:17 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id PAA22502; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:04:52 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id PAA39564 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:04:00 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2NN40M06541 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:04:00 -0800 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2NN3wj14616; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:03:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:03:58 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine-debug blues In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010323232306.00abbd70@mail.sia.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Paul De Luca X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Paul De Luca (pdeluca@sia.net.au) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) After looking through the debug file I came accross the suscpicious line: :) :) ioctl(TIOCWINSZ) failed :Invalid argument :) :) Does anyone know exactly what the problem is, or how to go about solving it? :) If needed I will post the whole dubug file to the list. That message is sent because Pine could not get the size of the screen that you are using to run it. Below is the comment in the source code about this failure. Does it apply to you? /* Depending on the OS, the ioctl() may have failed because of a 0 rows, 0 columns setting. That happens on DYNIX/ptx 1.3 (with a kernel patch that happens to involve the negotiation of window size in the telnet streams module.) In this case the error is EINVARG. Leave the default settings. */ -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 02:10:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id CAA27857 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 02:10:00 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 24 02:09:59 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA20414; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 02:09:58 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id CAA30316; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 02:09:27 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id CAA75190 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 02:05:51 -0800 Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2OA5jb07940 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 02:05:45 -0800 Received: from umz.sia.net.au (dialup46.morpheus.dragon.net.au [203.56.245.46]) by angel.comcen.com.au (8.11.2/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f2OA7Ni06219 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 21:07:23 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010324204640.00a84690@mail.sia.net.au> Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 21:06:56 +1100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Paul De Luca To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine-debug blues In-Reply-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010323232306.00abbd70@mail.sia.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Sender: pdeluca@mail.sia.net.au X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN At 03:03 PM 23/03/2001 -0800, you wrote: >*** Paul De Luca (pdeluca@sia.net.au) wrote in the pine-info list today: > >:) After looking through the debug file I came accross the suscpicious line: >:) >:) ioctl(TIOCWINSZ) failed :Invalid argument >:) >:) Does anyone know exactly what the problem is, or how to go about >solving it? >:) If needed I will post the whole dubug file to the list. > >That message is sent because Pine could not get the size of the screen >that you are using to run it. Below is the comment in the source code >about this failure. Does it apply to you? > > /* Depending on the OS, the ioctl() may have failed because > of a 0 rows, 0 columns setting. That happens on DYNIX/ptx 1.3 > (with a kernel patch that happens to involve the negotiation > of window size in the telnet streams module.) In this case > the error is EINVARG. Leave the default settings. */ > Thanks for the reply, Although I know that these files are only small, and I never get more than four, I wasnt sure whether something seriously wrong was happening that I was unaware of, or whether there was some quick hack to stop it. Besides, a tidy /~ directory is a tidy mind ;) The comment from the source code probably does apply to me, as I telnet into my unix account, using pine to read my mail. Other pine users at my uni comment on this problem, so I will be able to pass this info on. I will just have to set up an alias like someone else recommended. Thanx again. ----------------------------------------- Paul De Luca Email: pdeluca@sia.net.au Ph: +61 414 225561 ----------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 05:18:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id FAA24228 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 05:18:46 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 24 05:18:46 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA24040; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 05:18:44 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id FAA33336; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 05:18:23 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id FAA70894 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 05:17:05 -0800 Received: from cannac.ampr.org (lc01109.zianet.com [216.234.197.84]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2ODH3727375 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 05:17:03 -0800 Received: from localhost (karl@localhost) by cannac.ampr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA00871; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 06:19:23 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 06:19:23 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Karl F. Larsen" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Deleting folder In-Reply-To: <3ABB5AA9.81FC8907@Tarleton.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Rebecca Goodwin X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: cannac.ampr.org: karl owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is a no-no. The line of text becomes a folder that is not proper to pine and so not deletable by pine. The line of text is actually a file name for a file in your /mail directory. I suggest you cd to ../mail and look at all the "folders" that are really files. Delete the errrant one and go on. On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Rebecca Goodwin wrote: > I am using PINE 4.21L. > > I have accidentally pasted a line of text in my folder sections. Now > this line of text is the name of a folder. First I tried deleting the > folder, the delete failed. Next, I tried to rename the folder and then > delete it, but the rename failed. How can a get this folder deleted? > > Thank You > > Rebecca Goodwin > Systems Analyst > Tarleton State University > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Yours Truly, - Karl F. Larsen, k5di@arrl.net (505) 524-3303 - From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:40:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id FAA29448 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:40:38 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 27 05:40:37 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA12160; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:40:33 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id FAA06858; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:40:03 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id FAA78386 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:28:30 -0800 Received: from mail.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [193.74.243.200]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2RDSO718955 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:28:26 -0800 Received: from cactus.sonytel.be (cactus.sonytel.be [10.34.112.3]) by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA23601 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:28:13 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:28:13 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Piotr Martyniuk To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Just a test MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: NEWS - Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN test -- --^----------------------------------------------------------------^-- ^ | ^ e-mail: murphy@pulstar.albedo.art.pl ^ | ^ |/|\| |/|\| | Everything is possible - this is only a question of time | --|----------------------------------------------------------------|-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:13:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id XAA30022 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:13:18 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 27 23:13:16 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA15160; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:13:16 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with SMTP id XAA24914; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:12:56 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2S7AO281588; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:10:24 -0800 Received: from pandora.worldonline.nl (pandora.worldonline.nl [195.241.48.140]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2S7AKU19985; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:10:23 -0800 Received: from shell.worldonline.nl (shell.worldonline.nl [195.241.13.2]) by pandora.worldonline.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5EC41D05; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:09:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (cohenb@localhost) by shell.worldonline.nl (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA26726; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:09:01 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:09:01 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bruce Cohen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: bug in 4.33? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum , , , X-Authentication-Warning: shell.worldonline.nl: cohenb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In pine 4.33 my news folders are single column only. In pine 4.05 (with the same .pinerc) they are multiple column as always. Is this a known bug or am I missing something? Bruce Cohen -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:52:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id XAA22107 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:52:12 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 27 23:52:11 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA15861; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:52:11 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2S7ph516718; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:51:44 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2S7nT262164 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:49:29 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2S7nT709107 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:49:29 -0800 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2S7nCj379284; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:49:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:49:12 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: bug in 4.33? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bruce Cohen X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Bruce Cohen (cohenb@worldonline.nl) wrote in the pine-info list on Mar...: :) In pine 4.33 my news folders are single column only. :) :) In pine 4.05 (with the same .pinerc) they are multiple column as always. I do not have that problem. Do the newsgroups that you subscribe to have extremely long names? -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 03:25:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id DAA22371 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 03:24:57 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 28 03:24:55 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id DAA20481; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 03:24:55 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2SBOX519628; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 03:24:34 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2SBL8253668 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 03:21:09 -0800 Received: from rhea.worldonline.nl (rhea.worldonline.nl [195.241.48.139]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2SBL8729786 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 03:21:08 -0800 Received: from shell.worldonline.nl (shell.worldonline.nl [195.241.13.2]) by rhea.worldonline.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8009E37EA3; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:21:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (cohenb@localhost) by shell.worldonline.nl (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA27992; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:20:46 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:20:46 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bruce Cohen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: bug in 4.33? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: shell.worldonline.nl: cohenb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Well, a couple are a bit long, but they format just fine into two columns in 4.05 without anything going offscreen or overlapping! Does there seem to be a limit to line lenth in 4.33 as far as multiple columns go? Bruce On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > *** Bruce Cohen (cohenb@worldonline.nl) wrote in the pine-info list on Mar...: > > :) In pine 4.33 my news folders are single column only. > :) > :) In pine 4.05 (with the same .pinerc) they are multiple column as always. > > I do not have that problem. Do the newsgroups that you subscribe to > have extremely long names? > > -- > Eduardo > http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ > > > From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:05:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id MAA25659 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:05:33 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 28 12:05:31 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA31605; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:05:30 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2SJmZ522418; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:48:38 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2SJhq213316 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:43:52 -0800 Received: from central.bldrdoc.gov (central.boulder.nist.gov [132.163.128.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2SJhmM28853 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:43:52 -0800 Received: from tahoe.bldr.nist.gov (tahoe.bldr.nist.gov [132.163.129.121]) by central.bldrdoc.gov (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA17959 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:43:42 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:43:42 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Sean S Coleman To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Accessing the pine-info directories using pine and IMAP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: coleman@tahoe.bldr.nist.gov X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I want to be able to access the pine-info lists from ftp.cac.washington.edu from pine. I have just started using pine with imap so I am not very familiar with how to make it work. What is the proper procedure to add this to your pine mailer? When I tried to add a new folder for pine-info, I typed the following command in the folder list: A (Add folder) It returns with: Folder Name to Add: I type: {ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[] and hit return. When I do this, I get the error: IMAP Protocol Error: Command Unrecognized: CREATE Looking at a past post about this same subject (different problem) the author of the note described putting this in the collection list. I also attempted to do that by going to SETUP, selecting L and creating a new collection. In the Server field, I put {ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous} and in the Path field, I put: pine/pine-info/[] When I do a ^X to save it, it comes back with the same error as above when I created the folder. What am I doing wrong? Thanks Sean Coleman NIST -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:14:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id MAA17929 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:14:29 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 28 12:14:28 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA03709; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:14:28 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2SKCa510866; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:12:37 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2SK9r285092 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:09:53 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2SK9pU08720 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:09:52 -0800 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2SK9oj431940; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:09:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:09:49 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Accessing the pine-info directories using pine and IMAP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Sean S Coleman X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Sean S Coleman (coleman@boulder.nist.gov) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) I also attempted to do that by going to SETUP, selecting L and :) creating a new collection. Try the following settings when adding the collection: Nickname : Anything Server : ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous Path : #public/pine/pine-info/ View : -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 15:49:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id PAA22602 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 15:49:06 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 28 15:49:05 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA07664; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 15:49:00 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2SNlm515232; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 15:48:04 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2SMc6299204 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:38:06 -0800 Received: from gateway.bogus ([213.30.47.9]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2SMc4b19225 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:38:04 -0800 Received: from localhost (admin@localhost) by gateway.bogus (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2SMcsA02531 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:38:54 +0100 (WEST) (envelope-from nuno.teixeira@pt-quorum.com) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:38:35 +0100 (WEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nuno Teixeira To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Folder compression MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: gateway.bogus: admin owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello to all, 1. I'd like to know if there is any patch or some functionality that provides to compress Pine folders with gzip or any else. I've read something that Mutt have a lot of patch and utilities that do this. 2. Related to PGP: What is the best program to use with Pine: pgp4pine or the scripts that comes with Pine (pgpdecode, pgpencode and pgpsign)? Thanks very much, - -- Nuno Teixeira Dir. T=E9cnico pt-quorum.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOsJn/Y8HcgpjoE/HEQLQTwCfZbthpCRsqYg4R5fJ6oxhYRSm5woAnROG Vcrq6VK72ugBncPotaHZXAzS =3DU+/v -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:16:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id QAA08245 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:16:24 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 28 16:16:23 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA08721; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:16:23 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2T0F8r19254; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:15:09 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2T06E275144 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:06:14 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2T069b16778 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:06:14 -0800 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2T063j431333; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:06:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:06:03 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Folder compression In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Nuno Teixeira X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Nuno Teixeira (nuno.teixeira@pt-quorum.com) wrote in the pine-info list...: :) I'd like to know if there is any patch or some functionality that :) provides to compress Pine folders with gzip or any else. No such a patch or functionality exists today. :) What is the best program to use with Pine: pgp4pine or the scripts that :) comes with Pine (pgpdecode, pgpencode and pgpsign)? I don't use PGP, but as far as I know Pine is not distributed with any version of pgp, unless your linux distribution do so. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:23:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id SAA30952 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:23:52 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 28 18:23:51 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA12369; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:23:51 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2T2Ma510668; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:22:36 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2T0fs273776 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:41:54 -0800 Received: from palanthas.neverending.org (postfix@isr5429.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.209.169]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2T0fsM30768 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:41:54 -0800 Received: by palanthas.neverending.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A320826C05; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:41:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palanthas.neverending.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938F422E0C; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:41:53 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:41:44 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Frank Tobin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Folder compression In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Nuno Teixeira X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Nuno Teixeira, at 23:38 +0100 on Wed, 28 Mar 2001, wrote: What is the best program to use with Pine: pgp4pine or the scripts that comes with Pine (pgpdecode, pgpencode and pgpsign)? If you use GnuPG (http://www.gnupg.org/), I can recommend pgpenvelope, http://pgpenvelope.sourceforge.net/ - -- Frank Tobin http://www.uiuc.edu/~ftobin/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: pgpenvelope 2.9.0 - http://pgpenvelope.sourceforge.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAjrChNEACgkQVv/RCiYMT6MMkwCfSPPrWmDUW/DwMo1hiiSi7nK2 pc0AoKYo0DN5MGxlv3gi2iBsBqfvuShm =nl4b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 05:42:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id FAA24327 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 05:42:03 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 29 05:42:02 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA29411; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 05:42:02 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2TDfDu17094; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 05:41:14 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2TDeO2105922 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 05:40:24 -0800 Received: from daemon.system (stu1ir100-137-176.ip.tesion.net [213.182.137.176]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2TDeNM08194 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 05:40:23 -0800 Received: (qmail 1766 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2001 13:40:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO unit) (192.168.1.5) by 192.168.1.1 with SMTP; 29 Mar 2001 13:40:14 -0000 Message-Id: <001701c0b856$53bbf8e0$0501a8c0@unit> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:43:17 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Tom Beer" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Writting Fcc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I've taken a look on the archive but I can't find what "Writing Fcc" means and why pine hangs. I just wanna send a mail. Tom -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 05:56:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id FAA31172 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 05:55:59 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 29 05:55:57 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA26077; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 05:55:56 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2TDtXr30274; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 05:55:33 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2TDsw292958 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 05:54:59 -0800 Received: from mail.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [193.74.243.200]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2TDstM10033 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 05:54:56 -0800 Received: from cactus.sonytel.be (cactus.sonytel.be [10.34.112.3]) by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA12481; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:54:23 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:54:23 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Murphy To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Writting Fcc In-Reply-To: <001701c0b856$53bbf8e0$0501a8c0@unit> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Tom Beer X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >I've taken a look on the archive but I can't >find what "Writing Fcc" means and why pine >hangs. I just wanna send a mail. This means "File Carbon Copy" -- each mail is automatically stored by Pine into specified directory (see "Configuration - default-fcc: ) Regards Murphy -- __ __ || || -++- -++- -------------------------------------------------------- ||\ /|| piotr@sonycom.com murph@free.polbox.pl || || || || Everything is possible - this is only a question of time \/ \/ -------------------------------------------------------- 564 From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:49:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA20017 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:49:26 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 29 09:49:23 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA00769; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:49:23 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2THdVu30180; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:39:31 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2THVB220436 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:31:11 -0800 Received: from mail.amherst.com (odo.amherst.com [12.19.228.55]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2THVA715470 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:31:10 -0800 Received: from homer.amherst.com (homer.amherst.com [172.28.254.32]) by mail.amherst.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17298 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:31:09 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:29:03 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Robert Dege To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: POP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Info X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I just installed pine 4.33, & I'm trying to get it to connect to a POP mail server. If I do this: inbox-path={mail.host.com}INBOX I get an error, unable to open port 143. Since this is a POP server, and not imap, the port is rejected. So I modify the config line to this: inbox-path={mail.host.com:110}INBOX Pine now says that it received untagged ending response & hangs there waiting for the server to send a proper end response. Does anybody know what I'm doing wrong? Can you suggest a solution? The remote mail server is using QPopper as the POP server. Thanks -Rob -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:09:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id KAA03143 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:09:32 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 29 10:09:31 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA05315; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:09:30 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2THuUr32446; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:56:30 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2THs5225684 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:54:05 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2THs5M04747 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:54:05 -0800 Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2THs3j27282; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:54:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:54:02 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: POP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robert Dege X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Robert Dege (rcd@amherst.com) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) I just installed pine 4.33, & I'm trying to get it to connect to a POP :) mail server. Define your inbox-path to be: inbox-path={your.pop3.server/pop3/user=userid}INBOX In any case, I would recomend you not to use this, add your pop3 folder as an incoming folder, since the status of the folder will be updated every time you open the folder. Defining your inbox to be a pop3 server, will have the effect of never being able to update the status of the folder, unless you quit Pine and restart Pine, of course. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:52:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id KAA17817 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:52:02 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 29 10:52:01 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA06824; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:52:00 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2TIpA524442; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:51:10 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2TIIi2105874 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:18:44 -0800 Received: from mail.amherst.com (odo.amherst.com [12.19.228.55]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2TIIhM13223 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:18:43 -0800 Received: from homer.amherst.com (homer.amherst.com [172.28.254.32]) by mail.amherst.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20250; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:18:41 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:16:34 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Robert Dege To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: POP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thanks for the prompt reply. Why is it that pine assumes the port to be 143 by default? Is there anyway of changing the default port queried? Or would this require src code alterations? Let me see if I understand your response... I just want to make sure I understand it correctly. If I set the inbox-path to the command specified below, pine will only query the pop3 server once, during the whole time that pine is open. In order to get more mail, I would have to quit out of pine & restart it to have it query the pop3 mail server again. Is this a correct interpretation? Setting the folder as an incoming folder will not solve this problem, but it will allow me to open & close the pop3 server folder without have to exit & restart pine. Is there an older version of pine that will query the default server as pop3 first to help bypass this problem? I know that version 3.96 works correctly, but I wanted to take advantage of certain ldap features that are available. Thanks. -Rob > *** Robert Dege (rcd@amherst.com) wrote in the pine-info list today: > > :) I just installed pine 4.33, & I'm trying to get it to connect to a POP > :) mail server. > > Define your inbox-path to be: > > inbox-path={your.pop3.server/pop3/user=userid}INBOX > > In any case, I would recomend you not to use this, add your pop3 folder as > an incoming folder, since the status of the folder will be updated every > time you open the folder. Defining your inbox to be a pop3 server, will > have the effect of never being able to update the status of the folder, > unless you quit Pine and restart Pine, of course. > > From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:53:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id KAA23636 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:53:09 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 29 10:53:08 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA06865; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:53:07 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2TIq4o15826; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:52:04 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2TIT2290782 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:29:02 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2TIT2b17317 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:29:02 -0800 Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2TIStj34621; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:28:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:28:55 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: POP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robert Dege X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Robert Dege (rcd@amherst.com) wrote today: :) Why is it that pine assumes the port to be 143 by default? Is there :) anyway of changing the default port queried? Or would this require src :) code alterations? I think it's the c-client library that defaults to this. Pine is an excellent IMAP client, but its POP3 support does not compare at all, because of features like this. If I were to have to use POP3 with Pine I would get some script that would download mail to the spool and read from there. :) Let me see if I understand your response... Yes you did understand correctly everything I said. :) Is there an older version of pine that will query the default server as :) pop3 first to help bypass this problem? adding the pop3 flag to the inbox definition (the part that says "/pop3") is what makes the trick. The sever will be queried as a POP3 server. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/personal.html From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:19:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id MAA16453 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:19:46 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 29 12:19:44 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA06309; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:19:44 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2TKGF532534; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:16:16 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2TJOX290786 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:24:33 -0800 Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2TJOVb04425 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:24:33 -0800 Received: (qmail 15304 invoked by uid 1828); 29 Mar 2001 19:24:30 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:24:30 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: how to read mbox files with pine? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've got a few mbox files in my home directory (I don't remember why or how), and I know I can read them with mail -f. How can I read them with pine? I guess I could turn off all of my pine config and make a new one, but this seems like a lot of work. pine has -f for opening a specified folder, but it then tries to open that folder on my mail account. pine has -F to open a file, but that then just views it like a pager, not as a mail file. Is there a way to get pine's interface with my local mbox files without totally munging my setup? (I only really want to do this once, to go through them and probably nuke most of the stuff in there.) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:33:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id MAA07098 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:33:28 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 29 12:33:27 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA06766; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:33:26 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2TKVxu31470; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:32:00 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2TKTU242438 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:29:31 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2TKTUb24667 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:29:30 -0800 Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2TKTTj38960; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:29:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:29:29 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: how to read mbox files with pine? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Matt Ackeret X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Matt Ackeret (mattack@area.com) wrote today: :) I've got a few mbox files in my home directory (I don't remember why or how), :) and I know I can read them with mail -f. :) :) How can I read them with pine? Make a symbolic link: ln ~/mbox ~/mail/mbox then you can read your mbox folder as if it were in the mail/ directory. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:36:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id MAA21693 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:36:25 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 29 12:36:24 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA10471; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:36:23 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2TKZT527600; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:35:29 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2TKXx253114 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:33:59 -0800 Received: from wrath.cs.utah.edu (wrath.cs.utah.edu [155.99.198.100]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2TKXxb26052 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:33:59 -0800 Received: from kamas.cs.utah.edu (kamas.cs.utah.edu [155.99.212.86]) by wrath.cs.utah.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2TKXt902838; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:33:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (newbold@localhost) by kamas.cs.utah.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2TKXtE84334; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:33:55 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from newbold@cs.utah.edu) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:33:55 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mac Newbold To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: how to read mbox files with pine? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Matt Ackeret X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: kamas.cs.utah.edu: newbold owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN And it came to pass that Today, at 11:24am, Matt Ackeret said: >I've got a few mbox files in my home directory (I don't remember why or how), >and I know I can read them with mail -f. ... >Is there a way to get pine's interface with my local mbox files without >totally munging my setup? (I only really want to do this once, to go through >them and probably nuke most of the stuff in there.) I believe you can just copy the mbox files into your folder directory, then they will show up as folders in your folder list, and you can read them normally. Mac -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Mac Newbold | Univ. of Utah Computer Science Dept. | | newbold@cs.utah.edu | http://www.cs.utah.edu/~newbold | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:20:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id QAA08863 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 29 16:20:01 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA14510; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:20:00 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2U0JRo25348; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:19:28 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2U046286142 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:04:07 -0800 Received: from ns.shellworld.net (ns.shellworld.net [64.29.16.176]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2U046M28224 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:04:06 -0800 Received: from localhost (ricklew@localhost) by ns.shellworld.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA06854 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:04:02 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:04:02 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Rick Lewis To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PC-Pine and enable-jump-shortcut MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is enable-jump-shortcut unavailable in PC-Pine? Setting it seems to have no effect. Thanks! --Rick -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:21:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id SAA06329 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:21:51 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 29 18:21:49 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA21310; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:21:49 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2U2LEr29218; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:21:14 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2U2KT278754 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:20:30 -0800 Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2U2KTb28067 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:20:29 -0800 Received: (qmail 4624 invoked by uid 1828); 30 Mar 2001 02:20:28 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:20:28 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: how to read mbox files with pine? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote: >*** Matt Ackeret (mattack@area.com) wrote today: > >:) I've got a few mbox files in my home directory (I don't remember why or how), >:) and I know I can read them with mail -f. >:) >:) How can I read them with pine? > >Make a symbolic link: > >ln ~/mbox ~/mail/mbox > >then you can read your mbox folder as if it were in the mail/ directory. Well, I just moved the files in my mail directory in my home directory (after I quit pine), and nothing changed. btw, nothing in my mail directory has been touched in 2 years.. -rw------- 1 mattack apple_sw 505 Jan 29 1999 saved-messages -rw------- 1 mattack apple_sw 505 Jan 29 1999 sent-mail ...because I am using IMAP to access my mailbox. Maybe I will have to add new config info or something? or maybe just give up and use /usr/bin/mail.. or possibly I'm misunderstanding this and there's just no way to do it. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:32:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id XAA09795 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:32:16 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 29 23:32:14 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA27342; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:32:09 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2U7Voo21026; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:31:50 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2U7Ur286256 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:30:53 -0800 Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (root@proxy2.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2U7Uq727692 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:30:53 -0800 Received: from localhost (root@shell13.ba.best.com [206.184.139.144]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id XAA28581; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:28:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:30:41 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: how to read mbox files with pine? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: nancy@imap.iecc.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 29 Mar 2001 Matt Ackeret (mattack@area.com) wrote: > >*** Matt Ackeret (mattack@area.com) wrote today: > >:) I've got a few mbox files in my home directory (I don't > >remember why or how), :) and I know I can read them with mail > >-f. > >:) > >:) How can I read them with pine? > > Well, I just moved the files in my mail directory in my home > directory (after I quit pine), and nothing changed. > > btw, nothing in my mail directory has been touched in 2 years.. > -rw------- 1 mattack apple_sw 505 Jan 29 1999 saved-messages > -rw------- 1 mattack apple_sw 505 Jan 29 1999 sent-mail > > ...because I am using IMAP to access my mailbox. Maybe I will > have to add new config info or something? or maybe just give > up and use /usr/bin/mail.. There are a couple ways you can view these folders with pine. One possibility is to use pine -f /full/path/to/folder e.g. pine -f ~/mystery.mbox or pine -f ~/Mail/mystery.mbox The reason `pine -f mystery.mbox' didn't work is because pine was looking in your "default folder collection", which in your case, is your remote IMAP-accessible collection and not your local collection. Another way to access these folders -- and to make it easy to access local folders in the future -- is to add a *local* folder collection to your Collection List. I describe how to do this on my PC-Pine page in the section called Setting Up Local and Remote Folder Collections which is here http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#setFolders Even though I wrote this for PC-Pine users, the directions work for Unix Pine users. Hope this helps, ^X, Nancy -- For Pine links, see http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink =-- Sent via PINE 4.33: Internet News & Email for Win/Unix --= From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 03:54:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id DAA16231 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 03:54:16 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 30 03:54:14 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id DAA00340; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 03:54:13 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2UBrb527600; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 03:53:38 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2UBoV241630 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 03:50:31 -0800 Received: from rncmm2.urz.tu-dresden.de (rncmm2.urz.tu-dresden.de [141.30.67.222]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2UBoUM02707 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 03:50:30 -0800 Received: from localhost (fleck@localhost) by rncmm2.urz.tu-dresden.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA03014 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:50:28 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:50:28 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: Christoph Fleck Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Christoph Fleck To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Help: my Pine disjoint forwarded mails MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: rncmm2.urz.tu-dresden.de: fleck owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear all, some forwarded mails are disjoint in two mails by pine. That happens when the included "From x@y.z" Line is not quoted (regardless of the Content-Length: Field of the hole mail haeder). Is there any way to see this kind of mails as one entry in the index and have the hole header of the included mail in the body? Is there such a funktion alredy or could this realised in future version? I found nothing adequate by reading doks and faqs. I'am the first with that problem? Motivation: - I get bounced emails form majordomo for approval with unqouted From line. - I get some forwards from elm-users with unqouted From line. - elm is able to check the beginn and end of this kind of emails as one. - I'am happy with pine for long years and would stay in using pine. best regards Christoph Fleck ,----------------------------------------------------------------. | Beratungszentrum fuer Videokonferenzdienste (BZVD), TU Dresden | | Christoph Fleck Tel.: +49 (0)351/463-5653 | | E-Mail: bzvd@tu-dresden.de http://bzvd.urz.tu-dresden.de | `----------------------------------------------------------------' -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 04:06:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id EAA31008 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 04:06:29 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 30 04:06:27 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA00908; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 04:06:26 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2UC60518978; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 04:06:00 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2UC5E241564 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 04:05:15 -0800 Received: from users.assist.ro (users.assist.ro [194.102.130.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2UC4tM03911 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 04:05:00 -0800 Received: from dialup13-pm1.assist.ro (IDENT:silviu@dialup13-pm1.assist.ro [194.102.130.45]) by users.assist.ro (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2UC4MB25217 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:04:23 +0300 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:11:34 +0300 (EEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Silviu Cojocaru To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: POP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, at 10:28 (GMT -0800), Eduardo Chappa wrote: > *** Robert Dege (rcd@amherst.com) wrote today: > > :) Why is it that pine assumes the port to be 143 by default? Is there > :) anyway of changing the default port queried? Or would this require src > :) code alterations? > > I think it's the c-client library that defaults to this. Pine is an > excellent IMAP client, but its POP3 support does not compare at all, > because of features like this. If I were to have to use POP3 with Pine I > would get some script that would download mail to the spool and read from > there. Why a script when most distros out there (if not all) come with fetchmail. So, to learn how to set up fetchmail, run man fetchmail. It's an excellent POP3 and IMAP retriever. Not that I advertise the thing, it doesn't need it and... that's what I use. -- If Bill Gates had a dime for every time a Windows box crashed... ..., Oh wait, he already does. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:08:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA08212 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:08:49 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 30 09:08:47 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA04778; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:08:47 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2UH8Ir22926; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:08:18 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2UH7P215402 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:07:26 -0800 Received: from daemon.system (stu1ir100-137-47.ip.tesion.net [213.182.137.47]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2UH7OU07734 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:07:25 -0800 Received: (qmail 18348 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2001 17:07:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO unit) (192.168.1.5) by 192.168.1.1 with SMTP; 30 Mar 2001 17:07:16 -0000 Message-Id: <010a01c0b93c$6b8c3160$0501a8c0@unit> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:11:05 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Tom Beer" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: return path MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I tryed to configure the correct return path. I saw some archive lists, but fixing customized-hdrs would not make it. I made customized-hdrs=reply-To:mail@adress.com even "" after = changes nothing.What Am I missing? Thanks Tom -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:37:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA32129 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:37:49 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 30 09:37:47 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA09290; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:37:46 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2UHbMo17406; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:37:22 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2UHaT2103106 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:36:29 -0800 Received: from mm02snlnto.sandia.gov (mm02snlnto.sandia.gov [132.175.109.21]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2UHaTb00621 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:36:29 -0800 Received: from 132.175.109.1 by mm02snlnto.sandia.gov with ESMTP ( Tumbleweed MMS SMTP Relay (MMS v4.7)); Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:36:18 -0700 Received: from es08snlnt.sandia.gov (es08snlnt.sandia.gov [134.253.130.11]) by sass165.sandia.gov (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2UHaII26302; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:36:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from sasg829.sandia.gov ([134.253.45.38]) by es08snlnt.sandia.gov with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id H27P90GV; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:36:18 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:36:16 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Daniel Sands" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: POP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Robert Dege" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Server-Uuid: 7edb479a-fd89-11d2-9a77-0090273cd58c X-Filter-Version: 1.3 (sass165) X-WSS-ID: 16DA1B98557270-01-01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > Why is it that pine assumes the port to be 143 by default? Is there > anyway of changing the default port queried? Or would this require src > code alterations? Pine uses IMAP by default. This is port 143. IMAP is a different (superior IMO) way of accessing mail. > Let me see if I understand your response... I just want to make sure I > understand it correctly. If I set the inbox-path to the command specified > below, pine will only query the pop3 server once, during the whole time > that pine is open. In order to get more mail, I would have to quit out of > pine & restart it to have it query the pop3 mail server again. Is this > a correct interpretation? Yep. POP2 (probably 3 also) only allow the mail client to query the number of total messages, not the number of new messages. The intent for POP is that you download all of the messages to the local machine and delete them from the server. Pine doesn't do this automatically. IMAP, on the other hand, is intended for those who want to keep all their messages on the server. So its functionality is geared for that. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:42:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA30098 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:42:55 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 30 09:42:54 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA05841; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:42:53 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2UHgP534968; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:42:26 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2UHfi282014 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:41:44 -0800 Received: from cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in (IDENT:root@cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.73.78]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2UHffU19993 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:41:41 -0800 Received: from localhost (mohit@localhost) by cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2UHn2d13724 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:19:02 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:19:02 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mohit Agarwal To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Messages? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Warning: Paranoid security level; authentication required X-GPG-fingerprint: A8EE 8F15 33CF 2941 FA46 4881 0F9E 9A1F 3E04 435E X-GPG-public-key: http://cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in/~mohit/mohit.gpg X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm sure that this would have been observed earlier. If I go to the configuration, and exit without making any changes, I get to see the following (quoted from the journal file): No Configuration changes saved Changes to news-spool-directory will affect your next pine session. If no changes are saved, then why do I get this message/warning? (pine4.33 on linux 2.2.16) Thanks. -- Mohit Agarwal mohit@cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:52:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id JAA10574 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:52:14 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 30 09:52:13 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA09896; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:52:12 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2UHplo26870; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:51:47 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2UHp5297880 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:51:05 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2UHp5724235 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:51:05 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2UHoij150309; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:50:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:50:44 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Messages? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mohit Agarwal X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Mohit Agarwal (mohit@cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in) wrote in the pine-info...: :) I'm sure that this would have been observed earlier. If I go to the :) configuration, and exit without making any changes, I get to see the :) following (quoted from the journal file): :) :) No Configuration changes saved :) Changes to news-spool-directory will affect your next pine session. Hello Mohit, A couple of missing parenthesis is what's missing here. There's also another bad behavior, related to what you observed, which makes that Pine won't move automatically messages when you quit, after you've done this. Steve Hubert was very kind to provide a patch for solving this. Get it from the adress below. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/patches/others.html From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:34:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA31617 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:34:07 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 30 11:34:06 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA10113; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:34:05 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2UJXco16880; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:33:38 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2UJVp2104220 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:31:51 -0800 Received: from cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in (IDENT:root@cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.73.78]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2UJVj727664 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:31:49 -0800 Received: from localhost (mohit@localhost) by cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2UJdLn14054 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 01:09:21 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 01:09:21 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mohit Agarwal To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Messages? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Warning: Paranoid security level; authentication required X-GPG-fingerprint: A8EE 8F15 33CF 2941 FA46 4881 0F9E 9A1F 3E04 435E X-GPG-public-key: http://cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in/~mohit/mohit.gpg X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 2001-03-30, at 09:50 -0800, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > A couple of missing parenthesis is what's missing here. There's also > another bad behavior, related to what you observed, which makes that Pine > won't move automatically messages when you quit, after you've done this. > > Steve Hubert was very kind to provide a patch for solving this. Get it > from the adress below. I should have seen it earlier, but I'd somehow always overlooked your `other resources' page. Thanks, Eduardo. -- Mohit Agarwal mohit@cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:25:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id MAA10045 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:25:58 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 30 12:25:56 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA15577; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:25:56 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2UKPQ522612; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:25:26 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2UKMY205774 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:22:34 -0800 Received: from cannac.ampr.org (lc0224.zianet.com [216.234.193.223]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2UKMWb23585 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:22:32 -0800 Received: from localhost (karl@localhost) by cannac.ampr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01569 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:25:08 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:25:08 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Karl F. Larsen" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: [svlug] Pine 4.30 and remote mail clients (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Authentication-Warning: cannac.ampr.org: karl owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ivan had this on the wrong list. Please address answers to him direct. Yours Truly, - Karl F. Larsen, k5di@arrl.net (505) 524-3303 - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:37:30 -0500 (EST) From: Ivan Passos To: svlug@svlug.org Subject: [svlug] Pine 4.30 and remote mail clients Hello, The server where I read my e-mails has upgraded its Pine to v4.30. The problem is that now, for all msgs I read with Pine, I can't download them to my PC using Netscape. Prior to the upgrade I could ... :( Does anybody know whether I can get Pine to behave the same way as before by changing some flag in its configuration?? I tried to check its config. options, but I couldn't find anything promising ... Or is this "irreversible"?? TIA! Later, Ivan _______________________________________________ svlug mailing list svlug@lists.svlug.org http://lists.svlug.org/mailman/listinfo/svlug From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:49:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id MAA28305 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:49:05 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 30 12:49:04 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA16306; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:49:03 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2UKmT530288; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:48:30 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2UKbl277984 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:37:47 -0800 Received: from alpha.morningside.edu (alpha.morningside.edu [198.102.147.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2UKbk713248 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:37:46 -0800 Received: from reggae.morningside.edu (proxy.morningside.edu [198.102.147.30]) by alpha.morningside.edu (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA01896 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:40:24 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010330143911.007f5100@kiwi.morningside.edu> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:39:11 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Denny Watkins To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Starting PINE in Composer Mode Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: watkins@kiwi.morningside.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Using PINE 4.2.1 On IBM Rs6000 - AIX 4.3.3 Is it possible to start PINE in composer mode and not have it check for any mail? I have a user that I need to able to send email but not receive/read it. TIA, -- Denny Watkins Director MIS Morningside College Jacobsen Computer Center 1501 Morningside Ave. Sioux City, Iowa 51106 Email: watkins@kiwi.morningside.edu Voice: 712-274-5250 Fax: 712-274-5378 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:54:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id MAA17363 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:54:04 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 30 12:54:03 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA12908; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:54:02 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2UKrb509784; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:53:37 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2UKp5296270 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:51:05 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2UKp5U18590 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:51:05 -0800 Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2UKp3j179349; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:51:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:51:02 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Starting PINE in Composer Mode In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010330143911.007f5100@kiwi.morningside.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Denny Watkins X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Denny Watkins (watkins@kiwi.morningside.edu) wrote in the pine-info...: :) Is it possible to start PINE in composer mode :) and not have it check for any mail? Sure, just write the nick or address of the person also when you start pine. In another words "pine someone" is the way to write a message to "someone" -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:31:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id NAA09182 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:31:25 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 30 13:31:23 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA17686; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:31:23 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2ULUtu16486; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:30:55 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2ULRs281278 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:27:54 -0800 Received: from ns.shellworld.net (ns.shellworld.net [64.29.16.176]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2ULRrM09815 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:27:54 -0800 Received: from localhost (ricklew@localhost) by ns.shellworld.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA32703; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:27:41 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:27:41 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Rick Lewis To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: POP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Daniel Sands X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I wonder about the accuracy of what you say. I had previously set Outlook Express to keep messages on the server, and when examining my account, a tech at my ISP noted that setting in regard to my mail and questioned it. Anyway, when PC-Pine is invoked, it works just fine, except if I leave the mail folder, after a couple of minutes, a Pine error message says "Inbox closed due to access error." I can then just go back into the Inbox, which I would think re-accesses the server at that point, and new messages will be shown in the index. I only mention this because Pine doesn't need to be restarted. I'm accessing a POP3 server, with my inbox path as: {mail.shellworld.net/pop3/user=ricklew}INBOX --Rick On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Daniel Sands wrote: > Yep. POP2 (probably 3 also) only allow the mail client to query the number of > total messages, not the number of new messages. The intent for POP is that > you download all of the messages to the local machine and delete them from the > server. Pine doesn't do this automatically. IMAP, on the other hand, is > intended for those who want to keep all their messages on the server. So its > functionality is geared for that. > > From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:15:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id OAA27175 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:15:46 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 30 14:15:44 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA15928; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:15:44 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2UMFFu33968; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:15:15 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2UM4j273550 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:04:46 -0800 Received: from mm02snlnto.sandia.gov (mm02snlnto.sandia.gov [132.175.109.21]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2UM4jU10169 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:04:45 -0800 Received: from 132.175.109.1 by mm02snlnto.sandia.gov with ESMTP ( Tumbleweed MMS SMTP Relay (MMS v4.7)); Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:04:26 -0700 Received: from sandia.gov (sadl7616.sandia.gov [134.253.45.22]) by sass165.sandia.gov (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2UM4PI14466 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:04:25 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <3AC502E9.CE38B4FF@sandia.gov> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:04:25 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Daniel Sands" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: POP References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Server-Uuid: 7edb479a-fd89-11d2-9a77-0090273cd58c X-Accept-Language: en X-Filter-Version: 1.3 (sass165) X-WSS-ID: 16DBDD60589275-01-01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN What I originally said about POP is correct, but Pine may have eccentricities dealing with it. In fact, I think POP is a relatively new addition to its abilities. Anyway, according to STD53 (RFC1939), the available commands for retrieving mail are: STAT: Get the number of messages and the total size of the mailbox LIST: Get size information about a message, or all messages at once RETR: Get a message's text DELE: Remove a message RSET: Reset the status of all messages to previous state Optional commands: TOP: Get message header and some of its text UIDL: Get a unique-ID of the message. This could be used in polling for new messages, but it's not required that POP3 servers support this command. So, as I said, the intent is that mail be downloaded and deleted from the server. Also, POP servers are allowed to "expire" messages which are stored on the server, i.e. delete them automatically. In order to warn the client about this, RFC2449 adds an optional extension capability, "EXPIRE", which tells the client how long a message will remain on the server. Anyway, POP3 also allows a timeout of at least 10 minutes of inactivity for a server, in which case it will close the connection. Either Pine doesn't keep checking for new messages (because of the difficulties mentioned above), or it doesn't check often enough. Either way, once the connection is closed, Pine must reconnect. I would hazard a guess that when it does this, it throws out all previous knowledge of messages on the server and just goes through the process of re-retrieving the entire list. Rick Lewis wrote: > > I wonder about the accuracy of what you say. I had previously set > Outlook Express to keep messages on the server, and when examining my > account, a > tech at my ISP noted that setting in regard to my mail and questioned it. > Anyway, when PC-Pine is invoked, it works just fine, except if I leave the > mail folder, after a couple of minutes, a Pine error message says "Inbox > closed due to access error." I can then just go back into the Inbox, > which I would think re-accesses the server at that point, and new messages > will be shown in the index. I only mention this because Pine doesn't need > to be restarted. > I'm accessing a POP3 server, with my inbox path as: > {mail.shellworld.net/pop3/user=ricklew}INBOX > --Rick > > On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Daniel Sands wrote: > > Yep. POP2 (probably 3 also) only allow the mail client to query the number of > > total messages, not the number of new messages. The intent for POP is that > > you download all of the messages to the local machine and delete them from the > > server. Pine doesn't do this automatically. IMAP, on the other hand, is > > intended for those who want to keep all their messages on the server. So its > > functionality is geared for that. > > > > From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:28:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id PAA13555 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:28:29 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 30 15:28:27 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA18595; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:28:26 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2UNReo26236; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:27:40 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2UNPL254252 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:25:21 -0800 Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2UNPKM12052 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:25:21 -0800 Received: (qmail 22627 invoked by uid 1828); 30 Mar 2001 23:25:20 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:25:20 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: replies to a few discussions In-Reply-To: <200103300815.f2U8FVu19636@list3.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:29:03 -0500 (EST) >From: Robert Dege ... >Subject: POP >If I do this: >inbox-path={mail.host.com}INBOX Am I totally misremembering? I thought that the {} characters were specifically what told it that it was an IMAP account rather than a POP account. The help for inbox-path says: A typical remote inbox-path entry would be: {monet.art.nowhere.edu}INBOX where "monet.art.nowhere.edu" is replaced by the name of your IMAP mail server. And the Valid Folder Names help doesn't mention POP at all. >Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:30:41 +0000 (GMT) >From: Nancy McGough >Subject: Re: how to read mbox files with pine? >On 29 Mar 2001 Matt Ackeret (mattack@area.com) wrote: >> >*** Matt Ackeret (mattack@area.com) wrote today: >> >:) I've got a few mbox files in my home directory (I don't >> >remember why or how), :) and I know I can read them with mail .. >> >:) How can I read them with pine? >There are a couple ways you can view these folders with pine. One >possibility is to use > > pine -f /full/path/to/folder >e.g. > pine -f ~/mystery.mbox >or > pine -f ~/Mail/mystery.mbox This worked (as you know).. I guess I'd then say that the manpage should be updated. It now says: -f folder Open folder (in first defined folder collection, use -c n to specify another collection) instead of INBOX. But in this case, I'm not actually opening a "folder". I'm not sure how to make it simple *and* accurate at the same time. I'm guessing that if "folder" begins with ~ or /, then it is treated like an mbox file, other than that it is assumed to be a folder. >Another way to access these folders -- and to make it easy to >access local folders in the future -- is to add a *local* folder >collection to your Collection List. I describe how to do this on >my PC-Pine page in the section called > Setting Up Local and Remote Folder Collections >which is here > http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#setFolders Ok, I'll try this out at some point if I don't end up just nuking the files after going through them. I turned on a bunch of the "incoming folders" related prefs in Setup/Config but couldn't get it to do what I wanted in a very brief amount of playing around (I mean NOT USING your instructions, just what I already knew or could glean from the online help). -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:17:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id RAA32644 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:17:39 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 30 17:17:37 2001 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA22167; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:17:37 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2V1HEr35034; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:17:14 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2V1Ao248204 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:10:50 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2V1AoU31416 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:10:50 -0800 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2V1Anj218393; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:10:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:10:49 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: replies to a few discussions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Matt Ackeret X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Matt Ackeret (mattack@area.com) wrote today: :) Am I totally misremembering? I thought that the {} characters were :) specifically what told it that it was an IMAP account rather than :) a POP account. Yes, you are misremembering. The {} part says that the folder is remote (not in your local computer). When you just write the name of the machine, it means that the connection is IMAP, if you add the string "/pop3" after the name of the machine, the connection will be POP3. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:46:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id SAA18116 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:45:59 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 30 18:45:58 2001 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA24159; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:45:58 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2V2jWu18560; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:45:33 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2V2hE255970 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:43:14 -0800 Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2V2hEU15738 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:43:14 -0800 Received: (qmail 12249 invoked by uid 1828); 31 Mar 2001 02:43:13 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:43:13 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: seeing only attachment list, not one part.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN My Charles Schwab email alert is showing up like this: [ Part 1, Text/PLAIN 213 lines. ] [ Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part. ] [ Part 2, Text/HTML 347 lines. ] [ Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part. ] i.e. I am not seeing the text/plain part just by opening the message in pine. They did just change the format of their messages.. But I do have "prefer plain text" turned on in the prefs. What's up? Why am I not automatically seeing the text/plain part? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:45:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id DAA11882 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:44:59 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 31 03:44:58 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id DAA01756; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:44:58 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2VBib522740; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:44:37 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2VBfm220298 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:41:48 -0800 Received: from pop3free.com (sense-rickd-200.oz.net [216.39.161.200]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2VBflU02884 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:41:48 -0800 Received: from lfs.gpirujo.com.ar by pop3free.com with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.5.3.R) for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:42:59 -0800 Received: (qmail 399 invoked by uid 0); 31 Mar 2001 01:43:50 -0000 Received: from localhost (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 Mar 2001 01:43:50 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:43:50 -0300 (ART) Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Guillermo Pereyra Irujo To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: [OFF-TOPIC] microsoft makes vacuum cleaners MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-X-Sender: X-Return-Path: gpirujo@pop3free.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN There was someone who posted some time ago a message with a sentence like this in the signature: > The day when Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck > will probably be the day they start to make vaccuum cleaners How was it exactly? I found it great but I'm not a native English speaker and I cannot recall it precisely. Thanks! -- Guillermo Pereyra Irujo Mar del Plata, Argentina Linux User #207706 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:56:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id LAA10774 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:56:09 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 31 11:56:07 2001 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA10191; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:56:07 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2VJtgo27956; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:55:43 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2VJr4289438 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:53:04 -0800 Received: from poertel.plb.de (spira.plb.de [193.175.255.7]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2VJr2U09024 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:53:03 -0800 Received: from mailplb.s1.plb.de (mailplb.s1.plb.de [10.1.0.12]) by poertel.plb.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B819094402 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 21:57:40 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:14:07 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "plb.it" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: ? filtering based on patterns / restrict to selected folders MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: bork@plb.de X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello altogether, and thank you so much for all the help that reached us upon our recent question. Filtering does work now indeed, so new questions arise :) a. Is there possibly any way inside Pine 4.21 on Linux of filtering different strings in one set of filters e g [A-Z,a-z][A-Z,a-z][A-Z,a-z].[1-9][1-9][1-9][1-9]@ would cover any mail addresses consisting of three letters, a dot, and four ciphers. or wildcards such as ? or * How would one accomplish this with Pine ? Seems to us a similar mechnanism might be useful in getting rid of some spam perhaps etc. b. Having defined and enabled filtering with Pine, any folder opened will be filtered immediately. Even elder collections of mail may thus be split and resorted according to newly made filtering rules. How could one possibly - switch-off filtering temporarily or - restrict filtering to special folders or to INBOX only ? TIA for any help so far and further on kind regards, plbit ;-) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:40:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with SMTP id MAA03097 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:40:40 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 31 12:40:38 2001 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA10917; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:40:38 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with SMTP id f2VKeF526596; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:40:15 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2VKbl264630 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:37:47 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2VKbl705662 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:37:47 -0800 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2VKbej285521; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:37:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:37:40 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: ? filtering based on patterns / restrict to selected folders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "plb.it" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** plb.it (it@plb.de) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) a. Is there possibly any way inside Pine 4.21 on Linux of :) :) filtering different strings :) in one set of filters No, Pine does not support regular expressions matching for filters, or search. :) Having defined and enabled filtering with Pine, any folder opened :) will be filtered immediately. Even elder collections of mail may :) thus be split and resorted according to newly made filtering rules. :) How could one possibly :) :) - switch-off filtering temporarily or There's no way to do this, other than either deleting the filter or modifying it so that it won't match. :) - restrict filtering to special folders or :)to INBOX only ? That one you can. For every filter you make you have to set the following setting Current Folder Type = Set Choose One --- -------------------- ( ) Any ( ) News ( ) Email (*) Specific Folder List = INBOX where it says "Folder List", you can enter a comma separated list of folders. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/