From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 3 09:29:51 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:29:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h23HToTk015364; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:29:50 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h23HTg2n007703 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:29:43 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h23H40ZD028740; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:04:00 -0800 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h23GxxA8028044 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:00:00 -0800 Received: from mail.araneidae.co.uk (pc2-oxfd2-4-cust9.oxfd.cable.ntl.com [62.254.143.9]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h23GxrLs015755 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 08:59:56 -0800 Received: from saturn.araneidae.co.uk (michael@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.araneidae.co.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h23GxnCA089858; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:59:49 GMT (envelope-from michael@saturn.araneidae.co.uk) Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by saturn.araneidae.co.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h23GxmNZ089855; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:59:48 GMT Message-Id: <20030303164918.U89841@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:59:48 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Michael Abbott To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine lockfile (again) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: DougB@freebsd.org X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=II, Probability=2%, Report="SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=X, Probability=10%, Report="SPAM_PHRASE_00_01" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The following mail was posted to the pine discussion list (and is copied again; sorry folks) regarding a problem that arises when installing pine from ports on FreeBSD (from port mail/pine4). The responses from the discussion list can be categorised into two types: 1. Running pine SGID (as suggested in my patch) is a *bad* idea -- Mats Dufberg ; 2. RedHat has no problem with the spool set to "0775 root:mail" -- Mike A. Harris So, the question remains, but perhaps it is a pine/FreeBSD interaction problem? Basically: is pine's complaint on startup a red herring? If not, what's going on? Can anyone lay claim to this issue? (I've never yet had a response when mailing a port maintainer, but here's hoping.) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 08:47:14 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael Abbott To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine lockfile I've just upgraded pine to 4.53 (on FreeBSD, using ports) and have been reminded of a problem that required some investigation last time I installed pine. I don't really understand why this problem *still* arises. When installed, pine complains on startup thus: Folder vulnerable - directory /var/mail must have 1777 protection This is telling me that my mail folder should be wide open. I understand that this is because pine wishes to place a lock file in this directory. Leaving this folder wide open does not seem a good idea, and after some investigation I came up with the following approach: # chmod +t /var/mail # chown :mail /usr/local/bin/pine # chown g+s /usr/local/bin/pine The mail user only seems to own the mail folder, so it seems to make a lot of sense to give pine exclusive write access to this folder. Can anyone comment on: 1. What's wrong with this approach; 2. If there's nothing wrong with it, why isn't it done? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 3 09:43:04 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:43:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h23Hh3Tk016183; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:43:03 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h23HgvsV008367 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:42:57 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h23HHASR085820; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:17:10 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h23HDsA8040654 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:13:54 -0800 Received: from ms-smtp-03.nyroc.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.153]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h23HDoa8027793 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:13:51 -0800 Received: from syr-24-58-140-95.twcny.rr.com (syr-24-58-140-95.twcny.rr.com [24.58.140.95]) by ms-smtp-03.nyroc.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h23HDobG017076 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:13:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:13:50 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Karl Kingston To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Spam control MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: kkingsto@kingstonnet.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Has the Pine team come up with a way to deal with Spam? I've been getting enough spam that I want to take action on. I've looke at bogofilter and spamassassin but they seem to work under sendmail/procmail. Any ideas how i can get these 2 to work directly with Pine without having to use external programs to process mail? Thanks -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 3 09:56:15 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:56:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h23HuETk016884; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:56:14 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h23Hu9sV008877 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:56:09 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h23HUR0a032924; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:30:28 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h23HR7A8018172 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:27:07 -0800 Received: from sw59-227-189.adsl.seed.net.tw (sw59-227-189.adsl.seed.net.tw [61.59.227.189]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h23HR3a8032011 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:27:04 -0800 Received: from misty.greshko.com by misty.greshko.com with ESMTP; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 01:27:02 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 01:27:01 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ed Greshko To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Spam control In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Karl Kingston X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Karl Kingston wrote: > Has the Pine team come up with a way to deal with Spam? I've been > getting enough spam that I want to take action on. > > I've looke at bogofilter and spamassassin but they seem to work under > sendmail/procmail. > > Any ideas how i can get these 2 to work directly with Pine without having > to use external programs to process mail? Frankly, pine and other UA's (User Agents) should stick with being good UA's. I suppose you could use some of the filter functions of pine to deal with it on a marginal basis....but if you really want to deal with spam you'd use the tools written specifically for that purpose. In that regard spamassassin seems to have a very good reputation. Regards, Ed -- http://www.shorewall.net/ for all your firewall needs From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 3 10:30:38 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:30:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h23IUbTk018648; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:30:37 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h23IUTsV010532 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:30:30 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h23I5BhN006028; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:05:12 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h23I1iA8041356 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:01:44 -0800 Received: from msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.149]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h23I1aJM014281 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:01:37 -0800 Received: from 213-78-91-170.friaco.onetel.net.uk (213-78-91-170.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.91.170]) by msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AQC89377; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 18:01:32 GMT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 18:01:28 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Spam control In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Technical Discussion Forum X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine! Info @ www.ii.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 3 Mar 2003 Karl Kingston (kkingsto@speakeasy.net) wrote: > > Has the Pine team come up with a way to deal with Spam? I've been > getting enough spam that I want to take action on. > > I've looke at bogofilter and spamassassin but they seem to work under > sendmail/procmail. > > Any ideas how i can get these 2 to work directly with Pine without having > to use external programs to process mail? I've been doing a lot of research about this and the current darling of spam fighting is POPFile. On my main Pine page, which is here I have a blurb in the "Pine-Related News" section at the top about POPFile that includes links to "HOWTO: POPFile with Pine" and a lot more. If you don't want to try POPFile, another option is to create a Pine filter that moves all messages that are From someone in your address book to a "GreenBox" using a filter condition like this From or ReplyTo is in address book? = Set Choose One --- -------------------- ( ) Don't care, always matches (*) Yes, in any address book ( ) No, not in any address book ( ) Yes, in specific address books ( ) No, not in any of specific address books Abook List = Everything else will be "possibly spam" and you'll have to go through it and add all the non-spam addresses to your address books so they'll get put in your GreenBox in the future. Hope this helps, Let us know what you decide to do, Nancy -- -- I N F I N I T E I N K www.ii.com N A N C Y M c G O U G H -- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 3 10:43:34 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:43:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h23IhYTk019236; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:43:34 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h23IhR2n010867 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:43:28 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h23IIB0a032488; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:18:11 -0800 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h23IExA8040008 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:14:59 -0800 Received: from xbox.wkearney.com (xbox.wkearney.com [66.92.145.79]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h23IEuLr008416 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:14:57 -0800 Received: from media (media.wkearney.com [192.168.0.32]) by xbox.wkearney.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h23IEvkK011679 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:14:58 -0500 Message-Id: <00db01c2e1b0$cb8a08f0$2000a8c0@wkearney.com> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:14:55 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Bill Kearney" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Spam control References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXXI, Probability=41%, Report="FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, PRIORITY_NO_NAME, REFERENCES, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIII, Probability=24%, Report="FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, REFERENCES, USER_AGENT_OE, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_OUTLOOK_IN_MAILER, __HAS_X_MAILER, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN ImapAssassin works pretty well. It reaches into your imap folders. Fetchmail can be used in conjunction with imap folders to deal with moving spam. -Bill Kearney From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 3 19:15:51 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 19:15:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h243FoTk007241; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 19:15:50 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h243FkEN029702 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Mar 2003 19:15:47 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h243DxSR084424; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 19:13:59 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h243DIA8028390 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 19:13:18 -0800 Received: from knife.starchefs.com (knife.starchefs.com [209.11.92.130]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h243DG7W010150 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 19:13:17 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by knife.starchefs.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h243De23003292 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 22:13:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 22:13:40 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jessica Blank To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Upgrading to Sendmail 8.12.8 breaks PINE (but not 'mail' or delivery) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report="RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_PINE, X_OSIRU_DUL_FH" Hi guys. I upgraded all my servers today to Sendmail 8.12.8 due to the security fixes... however, at that point, PINE ceased to function properly. 'mail' can still send, and mail is still received, delivered and sent just fine (both from localhost and the outside network); however, PINE cannot send... I log in as jb@twu.net and try composing a mail to jb... when I hit send, I get: [Sending mail | 0% |] ...and it just SITS THERE indefinitely, doing nothing... At this point, the ONLY way I can resume control of PINE is by stopping sendmail!!! At which point PINE immediately responds, and says: "[Error sending: SMTP greeting failure: 421 SMTP connection went away!]" Does anyone have any idea why PINE would just hang on sending? Please help! Upgrading to the latest PINE (4.53) did NOT help. Same problem. --Jessica -- Jessica L. Blank, Systems Administrator & Programmer www.starchefs.com 9 East 19th St., 9th Floor / New York, NY 10003 Jessica@StarChefs.com - (973) 485-0684 Pager (917) 675-6618 Help Wanted. Help Found. www.helpwantedhelpfound.com, a division of StarChefs -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 3 19:30:21 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 19:30:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h243UKTk007622; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 19:30:20 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h243UGEN030035 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Mar 2003 19:30:17 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h243SXSR073506; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 19:28:33 -0800 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h243S0A8059496 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 19:28:00 -0800 Received: from ms-smtp-01.nyroc.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.148]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h243Run7019093 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 19:27:56 -0800 Received: from syr-24-58-140-95.twcny.rr.com (syr-24-58-140-95.twcny.rr.com [24.58.140.95]) by ms-smtp-01.nyroc.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h243Rlb2020096; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 22:27:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 22:27:47 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Karl Kingston To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Spam control In-Reply-To: <00db01c2e1b0$cb8a08f0$2000a8c0@wkearney.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bill Kearney X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: kkingsto@kingstonnet.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Just tried IMAPAssassin. Looked like it worked but I was getting an error when it tried to move the spam. If my imap server doesn't allow folders, then what do I do? Or can the spam be saved to a local mailbox? On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Bill Kearney wrote: > ImapAssassin works pretty well. It reaches into your imap folders. > > Fetchmail can be used in conjunction with imap folders to deal with moving spam. > > -Bill Kearney > > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 4 04:52:06 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:52:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h24Cq5Tk023737; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:52:05 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h24Cq2JX027344 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:52:03 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h24CoNhN015608; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:50:23 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h24CnOA8050848 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:49:24 -0800 Received: from xbox.wkearney.com (xbox.wkearney.com [66.92.145.79]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h24CnMIc030123 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:49:23 -0800 Received: from media (media.wkearney.com [192.168.0.32]) by xbox.wkearney.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h24CnNkK014806; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 07:49:23 -0500 Message-Id: <016d01c2e24c$7a2608a0$2000a8c0@wkearney.com> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 07:49:20 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Bill Kearney" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Spam control References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Karl Kingston" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXIII, Probability=33%, Report="FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, PRIORITY_NO_NAME, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIII, Probability=15%, Report="FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, USER_AGENT_OE, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_OUTLOOK_IN_MAILER, __HAS_X_MAILER, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN An IMAP server that doesn't allow folders? That odd. I guess you're out of luck. This leads back to using SpamAssassin and fetchmail in combination. There are possibly other alternatives but the configuration you're suggesting is so odd as to make it nearly impossible to do it "the right way". As for local folders, sure, but the original question was about trying to /avoid/ using such things. -Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Kingston" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:27 PM Subject: Re: Spam control > Just tried IMAPAssassin. Looked like it worked but I was getting an error > when it tried to move the spam. If my imap server doesn't allow folders, > then what do I do? Or can the spam be saved to a local mailbox? > > > On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Bill Kearney wrote: > > > ImapAssassin works pretty well. It reaches into your imap folders. > > > > Fetchmail can be used in conjunction with imap folders to deal with moving spam. > > > > -Bill Kearney > > > > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 4 05:36:39 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:36:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h24DadTk024647; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:36:39 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h24DaYJX028466 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:36:35 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h24DYwhN031074; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:34:59 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h24DYQA8045540 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:34:26 -0800 Received: from msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.149]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h24DYNCC007153 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:34:23 -0800 Received: from 213-78-67-175.friaco.onetel.net.uk (213-78-67-175.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.67.175]) by msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AQD63414; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 13:34:20 GMT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 13:34:17 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Spam control In-Reply-To: <016d01c2e24c$7a2608a0$2000a8c0@wkearney.com> References: <016d01c2e24c$7a2608a0$2000a8c0@wkearney.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine! Info @ www.ii.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 4 Mar 2003 Bill Kearney (wkearney99@hotmail.com) wrote: > > An IMAP server that doesn't allow folders? That odd. I guess > you're out of luck. > > This leads back to using SpamAssassin and fetchmail in > combination. There are possibly other alternatives but the > configuration you're suggesting is so odd as to make it nearly > impossible to do it "the right way". As for local folders, > sure, but the original question was about trying to /avoid/ > using such things. Actually I think Karl's original question was about avoiding sendmail/procmail and finding a program that can "work directly with Pine without having to use external programs to process mail?" Before we can recommend things -- and I do have some more ideas -- we need to know more about Karl's mail setup, e.g.: * Are you using Unix-Pine, PC-Pine, VMS-Pine, or something else? * Do you run Pine on your local machine or remotely in an ssh window? * Is incoming mail delivered to your local system or to a remote system? * Do you use Pine to access your *incoming* mail using IMAP, local system calls, or POP? * Where do you store your mailboxes -- are they on your local system or on an IMAP server? or some combination? * Do you receive mail at multiple "maildrops"? E.g., at work, at your ISP, at a free IMAP provider such as FastMail.FM, etc.? Once we know more about the setup, we'll be able to help better. Nancy coming soon: http://spam.defleXion.com From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 4 06:17:31 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:17:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h24EHUTk025855; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:17:30 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h24EHQ2B017145 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:17:27 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h24EAVZD018112; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:10:31 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h24E9vA8020074 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:09:57 -0800 Received: from ms-smtp-01.nyroc.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.148]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h24E9t7W003475 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:09:55 -0800 Received: from syr-24-58-140-95.twcny.rr.com (syr-24-58-140-95.twcny.rr.com [24.58.140.95]) by ms-smtp-01.nyroc.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h24E9qb2017170; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:09:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:09:52 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Karl Kingston To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Spam control In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Nancy McGough X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: kkingsto@kingstonnet.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi Nancy. Answers to your questions are inline. On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Nancy McGough wrote: > On 4 Mar 2003 Bill Kearney (wkearney99@hotmail.com) wrote: > > > > An IMAP server that doesn't allow folders? That odd. I guess > > you're out of luck. > > > > This leads back to using SpamAssassin and fetchmail in > > combination. There are possibly other alternatives but the > > configuration you're suggesting is so odd as to make it nearly > > impossible to do it "the right way". As for local folders, > > sure, but the original question was about trying to /avoid/ > > using such things. > > > Actually I think Karl's original question was about avoiding > sendmail/procmail and finding a program that can "work directly > with Pine without having to use external programs to process > mail?" > > Before we can recommend things -- and I do have some more ideas -- > we need to know more about Karl's mail setup, e.g.: > > * Are you using Unix-Pine, PC-Pine, VMS-Pine, or something else? > Unix-Pine 4.44 on RedHat linux 7.3 > * Do you run Pine on your local machine or remotely in an ssh window? > Run it on the local machine. > * Is incoming mail delivered to your local system or to a remote system? > Remote system. If I could run sendmail or a variant, I wouldn't be asking this since I'd have gotten SpamAsssin (or other) to work with procmail on all mail. But since I can't run anything on port 25 (Road Runner blocks port 25), So I use IMAP to a remote system. > * Do you use Pine to access your *incoming* mail using IMAP, local > system calls, or POP? IMAP. > > * Where do you store your mailboxes -- are they on your local > system or on an IMAP server? or some combination? > They're on an IMAP server. > * Do you receive mail at multiple "maildrops"? E.g., at work, at > your ISP, at a free IMAP provider such as FastMail.FM, etc.? > Not with Pine, no. > > Once we know more about the setup, we'll be able to help better. > > Nancy > coming soon: http://spam.defleXion.com > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 4 06:32:29 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:32:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h24EWSTk026147; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:32:28 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h24EWN2B017684 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:32:24 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h24EUlhN004994; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:30:47 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h24EUIA8045834 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:30:18 -0800 Received: from msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.148]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h24EUF7W007168 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:30:16 -0800 Received: from 213-78-83-175.friaco.onetel.net.uk (213-78-83-175.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.83.175]) by msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AQQ25349; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 14:30:13 GMT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 14:30:08 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Spam control In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine! Info @ www.ii.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thanks for your quick response Karl. Quick question: Do you have shell access to the server where your mail is delivered? If so, what are your thoughts about passing your incoming messages through procmail *on the mail server*? My guess is that you've rejected this option and I'd like to know why. I will be off the Net for a while but will write more later. I'm also curious to hear other people's suggestions. Thanks, Nancy -- PROCMAIL IMAP PINE -- I N F I N I T E I N K www.ii.com N A N C Y M c G O U G H -- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 4 06:41:58 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:41:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h24EfwTk026464; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:41:58 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h24Efs2B017988 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:41:55 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h24EdGZD029870; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:39:17 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h24EcvA8038946 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:38:57 -0800 Received: from xbox.wkearney.com (xbox.wkearney.com [66.92.145.79]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h24Ect7W009084 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:38:56 -0800 Received: from media (media.wkearney.com [192.168.0.32]) by xbox.wkearney.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h24EcukK015078; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:38:56 -0500 Message-Id: <01a901c2e25b$c7f4b680$2000a8c0@wkearney.com> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:38:53 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Bill Kearney" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Spam control References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Karl Kingston" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXIIIIIIII, Probability=38%, Report="FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, PRIORITY_NO_NAME, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXI, Probability=21%, Report="FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, USER_AGENT_OE, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_OUTLOOK_IN_MAILER, __HAS_X_MAILER, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > > * Do you run Pine on your local machine or remotely in an ssh window? > Run it on the local machine. > > > * Is incoming mail delivered to your local system or to a remote system? > Remote system. If I could run sendmail or a variant, I wouldn't be asking > this since I'd have gotten SpamAsssin (or other) to work with procmail on > all mail. But since I can't run anything on port 25 (Road Runner blocks > port 25), So I use IMAP to a remote system. > > > * Do you use Pine to access your *incoming* mail using IMAP, local > > system calls, or POP? > IMAP. > > > * Where do you store your mailboxes -- are they on your local > > system or on an IMAP server? or some combination? > > They're on an IMAP server. Would you be willing to read/store you mail on the local RH linux box? If so, then run either mailtutil (part of UW imap) or fetchmail to pull the mail off the remote IMAP server (or POP for that matter) and process it locally. You can setup a cron job to run periodically to pull the mail. Then your mail clients can read them from the local IMAP server. I do this. I pull mail from about 6 different places and dump them all into local IMAP accounts. I can then use various mail client programs to access the mailboxes. This also lets me run ImapAssassin against those mailboxes, also driven by cron. I also use hotwayd to pull the mail down from several hotmail accounts. (fetchmail<-via pop3)->hotwayd<->hotmail) If you want to leave the mail on the remote server you could, I suppose, pull it down locally, fiddle with it and then put it back. I generally find it's best to /move/ mail that's suspected of being spam instead of deleting it. I then periodically scan the folder for stuff that's over 30 days old and /then/ delete it. Seeing as how many ISP mail accounts have size limitations using a local IMAP server is really the only way to do this. All this as opposed to try to make pine or any other MUA do the heavy lifting. The mail programs generally do a good job of being just that, user mail agents. Askingt them to get into spam handling has, so far, not been very pleasant to use. -Bill Kearney From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 4 06:45:44 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:45:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h24EjhTk026570; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:45:43 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h24EjeJX030149 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:45:41 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h24EhlSR084416; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:43:47 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h24EhKA8050030 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:43:20 -0800 Received: from xbox.wkearney.com (xbox.wkearney.com [66.92.145.79]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h24EhHCc011699 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:43:18 -0800 Received: from media (media.wkearney.com [192.168.0.32]) by xbox.wkearney.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h24EhJkK015093 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:43:19 -0500 Message-Id: <01b001c2e25c$64a5eee0$2000a8c0@wkearney.com> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:43:14 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Bill Kearney" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Spam control References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXXIII, Probability=43%, Report="FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, PRIORITY_NO_NAME, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIIIII, Probability=27%, Report="FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05, USER_AGENT_OE, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_OUTLOOK_IN_MAILER, __HAS_X_MAILER, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > Do you have shell access to the server where your mail is > delivered? If so, what are your thoughts about passing your > incoming messages through procmail *on the mail server*? My guess > is that you've rejected this option and I'd like to know why. If it's an ISP account that uses IMAP but doesn't support folders it's pretty likely it doesn't have shell access. > I will be off the Net for a while but will write more later. I'm > also curious to hear other people's suggestions. Pull them off the ISP server using fetchmail and push them onto the local server. At that point all the features of SpamAssassin, procmail and the like become available. The downsides are setup complexities and access. The mail being local means you'd have to get it from the local machine. The ISP account, conversely, might be accessible from anywhere. The balancing act, of course, being the size limits on the ISP mailbox. If remote access is desired then open up a secured sshd connection back to the home box and run pine inside it. The benefit is the local box is a linux machine and can thus run many server-oriented tasks. And yes, it's mail delivery can still be pushed back through the ISP's servers, horrible as that is. -Bill Kearney From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 4 09:46:29 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:46:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h24HkT5a000597; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:46:29 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h24HkH2B026574 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:46:19 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h24Hi2ZD013398; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:44:03 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h24HgnA8045538 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:42:49 -0800 Received: from ms-smtp-01.nyroc.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.148]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h24HggCC013437 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:42:43 -0800 Received: from syr-24-58-140-95.twcny.rr.com (syr-24-58-140-95.twcny.rr.com [24.58.140.95]) by ms-smtp-01.nyroc.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h24HgZb2011534; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 12:42:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 12:42:37 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Karl Kingston To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Spam control In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Nancy McGough X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: kkingsto@kingstonnet.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Just a little more on my situation: On my ISP, I have shell access. Unfortunately, their mailserver is on another machine. So this is why I rejected the idea about using procmail. Bill K suggested running mail locally using mailutil/UW Imap/fetchmail. I may be willing to do this--but I'm going to need to spend some time looking at this. On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Nancy McGough wrote: > Thanks for your quick response Karl. Quick question: > > Do you have shell access to the server where your mail is > delivered? If so, what are your thoughts about passing your > incoming messages through procmail *on the mail server*? My guess > is that you've rejected this option and I'd like to know why. > > I will be off the Net for a while but will write more later. I'm > also curious to hear other people's suggestions. > > Thanks, > Nancy > > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 4 10:00:19 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 10:00:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h24I0I5a001271; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 10:00:18 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h24I0C7q004414 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Mar 2003 10:00:13 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h24HwFZD032888; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:58:15 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h24HvmA8026978 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:57:48 -0800 Received: from law.usc.edu (law.usc.edu [128.125.42.6]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h24HvfCC019740 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:57:41 -0800 Received: from L2122.usc.edu (l2122 [128.125.42.67]) by law.usc.edu (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22268; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:57:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:57:34 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Robert Larmon To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Upgrading to Sendmail 8.12.8 breaks PINE (but not 'mail' or delivery) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jessica Blank X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: rlarmon@faculty-law.usc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi Jessica, Not that it helps, but I upgraded my servers (Solaris 8,9) to 8.12.8 and I haven't experienced any issues (yet) with Pine 4.33/PC-Pine 4.33-4.53. I used the Sun patch instead of the Sendmail patch, but they should be based on the same code. Rob On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Jessica Blank wrote: > Hi guys. > > I upgraded all my servers today to Sendmail 8.12.8 due to the security > fixes... however, at that point, PINE ceased to function properly. 'mail' > can still send, and mail is still received, delivered and sent just fine > (both from localhost and the outside network); however, PINE cannot > send... > > I log in as jb@twu.net and try composing a mail to jb... when I hit send, > I get: > > [Sending mail | 0% |] > > ...and it just SITS THERE indefinitely, doing nothing... > > At this point, the ONLY way I can resume control of PINE is by stopping > sendmail!!! At which point PINE immediately responds, and says: > > "[Error sending: SMTP greeting failure: 421 SMTP connection went away!]" > > Does anyone have any idea why PINE would just hang on sending? Please > help! > > Upgrading to the latest PINE (4.53) did NOT help. Same problem. > > --Jessica > > -- > Jessica L. Blank, Systems Administrator & Programmer > > www.starchefs.com > 9 East 19th St., 9th Floor / New York, NY 10003 > Jessica@StarChefs.com - (973) 485-0684 > Pager (917) 675-6618 > > > Help Wanted. Help Found. > www.helpwantedhelpfound.com, a division of StarChefs > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > _________________________________ Robert Larmon Senior Systems Analyst USC Law School Computing Services rlarmon@law.usc.edu _________________________________ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 4 13:56:09 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 13:56:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h24Lu85a011463; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 13:56:08 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h24Lu47q013438 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Mar 2003 13:56:04 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h24LrWSR093232; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 13:53:32 -0800 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h24LqfA8041298 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 13:52:42 -0800 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h24LqZn8030408 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 13:52:37 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.12.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h24LqTta073889; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 22:52:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dufberg@narnia.pp.se) Message-Id: <20030304224758.D61286-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 22:52:29 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Upgrading to Sendmail 8.12.8 breaks PINE (but not 'mail' or delivery) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jessica Blank X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mar 3, 2003, 22:13 (-0500) Jessica Blank wrote: > I upgraded all my servers today to Sendmail 8.12.8 due to the security > fixes... however, at that point, PINE ceased to function properly. 'mail' > can still send, and mail is still received, delivered and sent just fine > (both from localhost and the outside network); however, PINE cannot > send... (...) > "[Error sending: SMTP greeting failure: 421 SMTP connection went away!]" When you send mail by mail etc you use sendmail directly, whereas with pine you have obviously chosen to send through sendmail acting as SMTP server. Are you sure that you are using the same senmail binary for SMTP as for direct sending? Have you tried to send directly to sendmail from pine (which is the default)? Are you sure that you have stopped and restarted sendmail? How are you receiving mail? Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg dufberg@narnia.pp.se Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 4 14:03:29 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 14:03:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h24M3S5a011826; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 14:03:28 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h24M3K2B006939 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Mar 2003 14:03:20 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h24M0wZD024052; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 14:00:58 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h24M0eA8015188 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 14:00:40 -0800 Received: from knife.starchefs.com (knife.starchefs.com [209.11.92.130]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h24M0aCC027211 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 14:00:36 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by knife.starchefs.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h24M0u23029124; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:00:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:00:56 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jessica Blank To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Upgrading to Sendmail 8.12.8 breaks PINE (but not 'mail' or delivery) In-Reply-To: <20030304224758.D61286-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mats Dufberg X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Mats Dufberg wrote: > On Mar 3, 2003, 22:13 (-0500) Jessica Blank wrote: > > > I upgraded all my servers today to Sendmail 8.12.8 due to the security > > fixes... however, at that point, PINE ceased to function properly. 'mail' > > can still send, and mail is still received, delivered and sent just fine > > (both from localhost and the outside network); however, PINE cannot > > send... > (...) > > "[Error sending: SMTP greeting failure: 421 SMTP connection went away!]" > > When you send mail by mail etc you use sendmail directly, whereas with > pine you have obviously chosen to send through sendmail acting as SMTP > server. > > Are you sure that you are using the same senmail binary for SMTP as for > direct sending? How would I check? No one ever tells me these things. > > Have you tried to send directly to sendmail from pine (which is the > default)? > Yes, and (as noted earlier) it does not work... I can only send from pine when I tell it to use the SMTP server "localhost" (as opposed to the default, which is-- as you noted-- to use sendmail directly) > Are you sure that you have stopped and restarted sendmail? YES, AROUND FIFTEEN BILLION TIMES. Please... I am not a newbie, no matter how "stupid" my question may sound. > > How are you receiving mail? > Just fine. > > > Mats > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Mats Dufberg dufberg@narnia.pp.se > Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 > SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 > > --Jessica -- Jessica L. Blank, Systems Administrator & Programmer www.starchefs.com 9 East 19th St., 9th Floor / New York, NY 10003 Jessica@StarChefs.com - (973) 485-0684 Pager (917) 675-6618 Help Wanted. Help Found. www.helpwantedhelpfound.com, a division of StarChefs From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 4 15:11:09 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 15:11:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h24NB85a014731; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 15:11:08 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h24NB47q016310 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Mar 2003 15:11:04 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h24N8a0a019176; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 15:08:36 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h24N7iA8036182 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 15:07:44 -0800 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h24N7eg9006458 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 15:07:42 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.12.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h24N7cta074573; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 00:07:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dufberg@narnia.pp.se) Message-Id: <20030304235422.X61286-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 00:07:38 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Upgrading to Sendmail 8.12.8 breaks PINE (but not 'mail' or delivery) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jessica Blank X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mar 4, 2003, 17:00 (-0500) Jessica Blank wrote: > > > I upgraded all my servers today to Sendmail 8.12.8 due to the security > > > fixes... however, at that point, PINE ceased to function properly. 'mail' > > > can still send, and mail is still received, delivered and sent just fine > > > (both from localhost and the outside network); however, PINE cannot > > > send... > > (...) > > > "[Error sending: SMTP greeting failure: 421 SMTP connection went away!]" > > > > When you send mail by mail etc you use sendmail directly, whereas with > > pine you have obviously chosen to send through sendmail acting as SMTP > > server. > > > > Are you sure that you are using the same senmail binary for SMTP as for > > direct sending? > > How would I check? No one ever tells me these things. Do you have more than one sendmail binary on the system? If so, remove the execution bits on the one that you don't want to run, and test if the SMTP comes up and if you still can send mail through mail. > > Have you tried to send directly to sendmail from pine (which is the > > default)? > > > > Yes, and (as noted earlier) it does not work... I can only send from pine > when I tell it to use the SMTP server "localhost" (as opposed to the > default, which is-- as you noted-- to use sendmail directly) When you send mail from mail, can you do as a non-privileged user or only as root? Is sendmail SUID to root? What error do you get when trying to send directly to sendmail from pine? If you select "J" (journal) from pine's first "page" you can see more logging. > > Are you sure that you have stopped and restarted sendmail? > > YES, AROUND FIFTEEN BILLION TIMES. Please... I am not a newbie, no matter > how "stupid" my question may sound. Well, anyone could forget, couldn't one? Why not just say "yes" to my question? I'm not out to embarrass you. :-) > > How are you receiving mail? > > Just fine. Are the mail going directly to the SMTP server? Or are you using fetchmail? Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg dufberg@narnia.pp.se Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 4 18:55:10 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:55:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h252t95a022799; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:55:09 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h252t52B020431 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:55:06 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h252r70a018964; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:53:07 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h252qKA8058668 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:52:20 -0800 Received: from knife.starchefs.com (knife.starchefs.com [209.11.92.130]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h252qICc030993 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:52:19 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by knife.starchefs.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h252qeY9023134; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 21:52:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 21:52:40 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jessica Blank To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: I STILL cannot send mail through Sendmail 8.12.8 In-Reply-To: <20030304224758.D61286-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mats Dufberg X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is driving me INSANE. I followed the security tutorial in "sendmail/SECURITY" (in the sendail distribution) TO THE LETTER and now users cannot send mail at all!!! When I try to send mail, I get: (in the syslog) Mar 4 21:44:27 knife sendmail[22406]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(jessica): can not write to queue directory /var/spool/clientmqueue/ (RunAsGid=0, required=9001): Permission denied OK, so that's nice. The SECURITY file suggests that we do all this fancy SETGID stuff on the binary, and chown and chmod /var/spool/clientmqueue certain ways, which I did... but now users cannot send mail at all! I am making NO headway on this problem besides finding the above error messages (which should help some wiser soul help me fix my problem). PLEASE, I beg of you, help. On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Mats Dufberg wrote: > On Mar 3, 2003, 22:13 (-0500) Jessica Blank wrote: > > > I upgraded all my servers today to Sendmail 8.12.8 due to the security > > fixes... however, at that point, PINE ceased to function properly. 'mail' > > can still send, and mail is still received, delivered and sent just fine > > (both from localhost and the outside network); however, PINE cannot > > send... > (...) > > "[Error sending: SMTP greeting failure: 421 SMTP connection went away!]" > > When you send mail by mail etc you use sendmail directly, whereas with > pine you have obviously chosen to send through sendmail acting as SMTP > server. > > Are you sure that you are using the same senmail binary for SMTP as for > direct sending? > > Have you tried to send directly to sendmail from pine (which is the > default)? > > Are you sure that you have stopped and restarted sendmail? > > How are you receiving mail? > > > > Mats > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Mats Dufberg dufberg@narnia.pp.se > Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 > SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 > > --Jessica -- Jessica L. Blank, Systems Administrator & Programmer www.starchefs.com 9 East 19th St., 9th Floor / New York, NY 10003 Jessica@StarChefs.com - (973) 485-0684 Pager (917) 675-6618 Help Wanted. Help Found. www.helpwantedhelpfound.com, a division of StarChefs From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 5 14:22:26 2003 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:22:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h25MMQ5a006426; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:22:26 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h25MMM7q002075 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:22:22 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h25MKKo0015066; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:20:20 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h25MJ0CK020130 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:19:00 -0800 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h25MIuCd011925 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:18:58 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.12.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h25MIrta078169; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 23:18:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dufberg@narnia.pp.se) Message-Id: <20030305231248.P61286-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 23:18:53 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: I STILL cannot send mail through Sendmail 8.12.8 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jessica Blank X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mar 4, 2003, 21:52 (-0500) Jessica Blank wrote: > When I try to send mail, I get: (in the syslog) > > Mar 4 21:44:27 knife sendmail[22406]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(jessica): can not > write to queue directory /var/spool/clientmqueue/ (RunAsGid=0, > required=9001): Permission denied Sendmail has been started by the non-priviledged user jessica. It is SGID wheel, but it should probably be SGID smmsp (GID 25). What are the permissions on /var/spool/clientmqueue? Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg dufberg@narnia.pp.se Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 10:04:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h26I4X5a024321; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 10:04:33 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h26I4U7q016003 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Mar 2003 10:04:31 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h26I25o0024210; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 10:02:05 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h26I1BCK017420 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 10:01:11 -0800 Received: from fnord.marigoldtech.com (19-236-234-66.cosmoweb.net [66.234.236.19]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h26I19Cc003816 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 10:01:10 -0800 Received: (qmail 14018 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 18:00:00 -0000 Received: from 64.90.182.137.nyinternet.net (HELO althea.marigoldtech.com) (64.90.182.137) by 0 with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 18:00:00 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 13:01:08 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Todd Goldenbaum To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: New command for '*'? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXI, Probability=21%, Report="RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=I, Probability=1%, Report="SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN It used to be in pine that you could type '*' and mark a message as unread, for instance, so you wouldn't forget ot read it later. Now that command seems to have disapreared... is there a replacement? thanks Todd -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 10:42:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h26IgI5a026533; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 10:42:18 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h26IgE2B021404 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Mar 2003 10:42:15 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h26IeSkH041066; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 10:40:28 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h26IdqCK047984 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 10:39:52 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h26IdoCc017812 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 10:39:50 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h26Idmq193893; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 10:39:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 10:39:48 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: New command for '*'? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Todd Goldenbaum X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Todd Goldenbaum (todd@marigoldtech.com) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) It used to be in pine that you could type '*' and mark a message as :) unread, for instance, so you wouldn't forget ot read it later. Now :) that command seems to have disapreared... is there a replacement? It sounds like something happened that disabled that command in Pine. Make sure it is enabled. Press M S C and enable [X] enable-flag-cmd Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:11:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h26JB85a028457; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:11:08 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h26JB42B023081 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:11:04 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h26J8to0014248; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:08:56 -0800 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h26J8GCK042368 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:08:17 -0800 Received: from mailman.packetdesign.com (www.packetdesign-cns.net [65.192.41.10]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h26J8Fn8001520 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:08:16 -0800 Received: from ash.packetdesign.com (ash.packetdesign.com [192.168.0.243]) by mailman.packetdesign.com (8.12.6/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h26J83vv012073; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:08:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from casner@acm.org) Message-Id: <20030306110212.C30842-100000@ash.packetdesign.com> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:08:03 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Stephen Casner To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine lockfile In-Reply-To: <20030218001732.M18001-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: casner@packetdesign.com X-To: Mats Dufberg X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Mats Dufberg wrote: > On Feb 17, 2003, 18:18 (-0500) Mike A. Harris wrote: > > > >And you have verified that locking is working correctly with pine? > > > > Well, we've been shipping like this for years, and yes it does > > work, although our pine is patched. Open 2 pine sessions at once > > and you're told the mailbox is in use by another pine session. > > Yes, that should be a sufficient test, and I knew that I came to the same > conclusion but you reminded me how. The same thing is true on FreeBSD. The question of setting the spool directory protection to 1777 is a FAQ. I've quoted below the info from the Pine Information Center. It indicates that the locking mechanism under discussion here is for locking between the mail delivery agent and the mail user agent, not between two mail user agents. So, is the test above really sufficient? -- Steve http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/sysadmins.html says: 11.5 Where does Pine create lockfiles, and what should that directory's permissions be? To protect against conflicts with mail delivery by sendmail, which could cause INBOX corruption, Pine creates lockfiles in the directory /var/spool/mail [1]. The permission setting for that directory should be 1777 (world writable with the sticky bit set). The alternative would be to make all mail programs setgid to some special group -- an unacceptable security risk in the opinion of the Pine developers [2]. By contrast, lockfiles created in the /tmp directory serve interlocking of different Pine sessions with each other, not of Pine with the Mail Delivery Agent. Lockfiles in the /tmp directory are mode 666 because of the case of shared folders (e.g., tenex format) and "kiss of death" functionality (UNIX mbox format and MMDF format). The lock needs to be accessible by processes which may be logged in as another user name; this is a tradeoff between security and functionality. [1] Versions of Pine prior to 3.92 did not warn users when locking in /var/spool/mail failed. [2] Some version of the Linux operating system are being distributed with permissions that would require Pine to run setgid. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 12:33:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h26KXK5a000525; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 12:33:20 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h26KXG7q023767 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Mar 2003 12:33:17 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h26KVSOP022726; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 12:31:28 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h26KUpCK014688 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 12:30:51 -0800 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h26KUlg9022659 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 12:30:49 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.12.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h26KUhta082476; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 21:30:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dufberg@narnia.pp.se) Message-Id: <20030306210852.Q61286-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 21:30:43 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine lockfile In-Reply-To: <20030306110212.C30842-100000@ash.packetdesign.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Stephen Casner X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mar 6, 2003, 11:08 (-0800) Stephen Casner wrote: > The question of setting the spool directory protection to 1777 is a > FAQ. I've quoted below the info from the Pine Information Center. > It indicates that the locking mechanism under discussion here is for > locking between the mail delivery agent and the mail user agent, not > between two mail user agents. So, is the test above really > sufficient? Probably not. I have, however, done some other tests that I start to remember now. I created a small perl script that did lock a file in the same manner as the MDA does with fcntl(2). When I lock the spool file with the script neither the MDA nor pine will access the file. The script is written for FreeBSD. The locks are OS dependent, as far as I remember. I locking works, it should not be possible to deliver to the spool file if the spool file is locked by the script. And pine should not do any changes or even read the spool file. ###################################################################### #!/usr/bin/perl use Fcntl; unless ($ARGV[1]) { warn "Usage: $0 -r|-w FILE\n"; exit 1;}; $writlck = pack "l4 i s2",0,0,0,0,0,&F_WRLCK,0; $readlck = pack "l4 i s2",0,0,0,0,0,&F_RDLCK,0; $unlck = pack "l4 i s2",0,0,0,0,0,&F_UNLCK,0; $file = $ARGV[1]; if ($ARGV[0] =~ /^-w/i) { open FIL, ">>$file" or die "$!"; if (fcntl (FIL, &F_SETLK, $writlck)) { print "Write locked -- press to unlock.\n"; $tmp=; if (fcntl (FIL, &F_SETLK, $unlck)) { print "Unlocked\n"; } else { print "ERROR unlocking\n"; }; } else { print "Cannot write lock\n"; }; } elsif ($ARGV[0] =~ /^-r/i) { open FIL, "$file" or die "$!"; if (fcntl (FIL, &F_SETLK, $readlck)) { print "Read locked -- press to unlock.\n"; $tmp=; if (fcntl (FIL, &F_SETLK, $unlck)) { print "Unlocked\n"; } else { print "ERROR unlocking\n"; }; } else { print "Cannot read lock\n"; }; } else { die "Illegal argument.\n"; }; ###################################################################### Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg dufberg@narnia.pp.se Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:39:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h27Jd25a027955; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:39:02 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h27Jct2B019260 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:38:56 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h27JZ8kH041000; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:35:08 -0800 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h27JXqCK057818 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:33:52 -0800 Received: from ms-smtp-03.nyroc.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.153]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h27JXon7004107 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:33:50 -0800 Received: from syr-24-58-140-95.twcny.rr.com (syr-24-58-140-95.twcny.rr.com [24.58.140.95]) by ms-smtp-03.nyroc.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h27JXnbW009926 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:33:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:33:50 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Karl Kingston To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: IMAP folders MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: kkingsto@kingstonnet.com X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=I, Probability=1%, Report="SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN OK.. Found out from my ISP that I *CAN* create folders. but.. I can't see the folders in Pine. (I can see them in mutt though) so what do I need to do? Running Pine 4.44 on RedHat 7.3 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:40:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h27JeS5a028097; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:40:28 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h27JeP7q015148 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:40:26 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h27Jcc4T023976; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:38:39 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h27JcGCK047006 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:38:16 -0800 Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h27JcECC017968 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:38:15 -0800 Received: from eng-23.pacdigital (localhost.panix.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA175487DA for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:38:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:38:05 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Kenneth Crudup To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: IMAP folders In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: kenny@eng-23.pacdigital X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Karl Kingston wrote: > OK.. Found out from my ISP that I *CAN* create folders. > but.. I can't see the folders in Pine. Try turning on "enable-lame-list-mode" in M-S-C . I had to do that to see 'em from imap.panix.com . -Kenny -- Kenneth R. Crudup Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Los Angeles, CA Home: 3801 E. Pacific Coast Hwy #9, Long Beach, CA 90804-2014 (888) 454-8181 Work: 2052 Alton Parkway, Irvine, CA 92606-4905 (949) 252-1111 X240 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:55:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h27Jt25a028970; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:55:02 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h27Jsx2B020231 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:54:59 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h27JrL4T024012; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:53:21 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h27JqhCK057684 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:52:43 -0800 Received: from cache.zipcon.net (cache.zipcon.net [209.221.136.11]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h27Jqgg8019804 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:52:42 -0800 Received: (qmail 27786 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 19:53:09 -0000 Received: from lsanca1-ar8-174-146.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net (HELO dev.itsite.com) (4.35.174.146) by itsite.com with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 19:53:09 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:55:11 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Derek Simkowiak To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: IMAP folders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Kenneth Crudup X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XI, Probability=11%, Report="IN_REP_TO, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_PINE" A good example document of how to configure Pine for a particular service is at: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~help/mail/pine_imap.php Of course your details will differ, but it will tell you what options to look at. --Derek On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Kenneth Crudup wrote: > > On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Karl Kingston wrote: > > > OK.. Found out from my ISP that I *CAN* create folders. > > but.. I can't see the folders in Pine. > > Try turning on "enable-lame-list-mode" in M-S-C . I had to do that to see > 'em from imap.panix.com . > > -Kenny > > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:47:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h281lI5a013998; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:47:18 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h281l52B003309 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:47:06 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h281iV4T004328; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:44:31 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h281hjCK048156 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:43:45 -0800 Received: from ms-smtp-01.nyroc.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.148]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h281hgg8032227 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:43:42 -0800 Received: from syr-24-58-140-95.twcny.rr.com (syr-24-58-140-95.twcny.rr.com [24.58.140.95]) by ms-smtp-01.nyroc.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h281hf68007001; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 20:43:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 20:43:41 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Karl Kingston To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: IMAP folders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Kenneth Crudup X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: kkingsto@kingstonnet.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN No go.. Didn't do it. I think my imap folders are called inbox.xxxx where xxxx is a name... On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Kenneth Crudup wrote: > > On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Karl Kingston wrote: > > > OK.. Found out from my ISP that I *CAN* create folders. > > but.. I can't see the folders in Pine. > > Try turning on "enable-lame-list-mode" in M-S-C . I had to do that to see > 'em from imap.panix.com . > > -Kenny > > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:56:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h281uh5a014199; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:56:43 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h281uc2B003505 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:56:38 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h281slOP020690; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:54:47 -0800 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h281sDCK020462 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:54:13 -0800 Received: from ms-smtp-02.nyroc.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.49]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h281sBn7018528 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:54:12 -0800 Received: from syr-24-58-140-95.twcny.rr.com (syr-24-58-140-95.twcny.rr.com [24.58.140.95]) by ms-smtp-02.nyroc.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h281s9bA024553; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 20:54:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 20:54:10 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Karl Kingston To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: IMAP folders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Derek Simkowiak X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: kkingsto@kingstonnet.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thanks Derek!! That was what did it.. I had to tell Pine where the stuff was! On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Derek Simkowiak wrote: > > A good example document of how to configure Pine for a particular > service is at: > > http://www.cs.utk.edu/~help/mail/pine_imap.php > > Of course your details will differ, but it will tell you what > options to look at. > > > --Derek > > On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Kenneth Crudup wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Karl Kingston wrote: > > > > > OK.. Found out from my ISP that I *CAN* create folders. > > > but.. I can't see the folders in Pine. > > > > Try turning on "enable-lame-list-mode" in M-S-C . I had to do that to see > > 'em from imap.panix.com . > > > > -Kenny > > > > > > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 21:09:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2859Z5a018167; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 21:09:35 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2859V2B008018 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 7 Mar 2003 21:09:32 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2857hkH047160; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 21:07:44 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h28570CK063440 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 21:07:00 -0800 Received: from mail.hal-pc.org (mail.hal-pc.org [206.180.145.133]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2856wg8030153 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 21:06:58 -0800 Received: from [206.180.133.20] (HELO [192.168.0.2]) by mail.hal-pc.org (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with ESMTP id 38587949; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 23:06:57 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 23:46:53 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steven Whatley To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: no recognized SASL authenticator In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Karl Kingston X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: swhatley@localhost X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi all, I am trying to set up two RH8 systems. Lets call the server jack and the client jill. I am trying to set up Pine 4.53 so I can read my mail from either Jack or Jill. BTW, I have read the tech-notes.txt file included with Pine. Jack has/is ... the /home directory the NIS server rshd enabled imapd installed from the Pine 4.53 distribution. the symbolic link /etc/rimapd has been created. xinetd.conf modified accordingly. Jill has /home NFS mounted. Jill is also running KDE 3.0.3. I use Jill to dual boot WinXP and RH8. I installed RH8 on Jill about two weeks ago. The ~/.pinerc has INBOX set to "{Jack}inbox". I can log into either system under my account with no problem. If I run Pine while logged into Jack, it works great. But, if I run Pine from Jill, Pine fails to open the INBOX and gets the following debug error: About to open folder "INBOX" inbox: "INBOX" IMAP 21:57:46 3/7 mm_log warning: rsh to IMAP server timed out IMAP 21:57:46 3/7 mm_log babble: Trying IP address [192.168.151.204] IMAP 21:57:46 3/7 mm_log error: Server disables LOGIN, no recognized SASL authenticator IMAP 21:57:46 3/7 mm_notify bye: {gospel}INBOX (?) : localhost IMAP4rev1 server terminating connection I have a .rhosts file. jack me jill me I can run commands like 'rsh jack /usr/bin/fetchmail -q -d 300' from Jill with no problems. I have imapd on Jack set up to allow connections from all hosts. I used webmin to do the configuration. Enough background? Ask if you need more. My question is, of course, how do I get pine to open my inbox on Jack when I am logged into Jill? Any info will be appreciated. BTW, I *really* like pine for email and have gone to great pains to keep the abilty to use it for the past 12 years. Thanks, Steven From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:32:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h292Wi5a012892; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:32:44 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h292Wf2B004091 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:32:41 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h292Umo0024094; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:30:48 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h292TTCK025148 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:29:30 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h292TRCD008619 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:29:28 -0800 Received: from jindi2 ([61.149.21.83]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h292TH2A004007 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:29:24 -0800 Received: (qmail 4477 invoked by uid 0); 2 Mar 2003 12:48:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO relay) (isee@seeyou.com@192.168.0.150) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Mar 2003 12:48:58 -0000 Message-Id: <200303090229.h292TH2A004007@mx1.cac.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 21:00:33 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: µ½½¹µã·¿µØ²úÍøÂò·¿£¬½ÚÔ¼ºÃ¼¸Íò£¡ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="GB2312_CHARSET" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXXXXXXIIIII, Probability=85%, Report="CTYPE_JUST_HTML, HEADER_8BITS, HTML_FONT_COLOR_RED, NO_REAL_NAME, RAZOR2_CHECK, RCVD_IN_RFCI, SUBJ_FULL_OF_8BITS, __CTYPE_IS_HTML, __EVITE_CTYPE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXXXXXXIIIIII, Probability=86%, Report="CTYPE_JUST_HTML, FROM_MISSING, HEADER_8BITS, HTML_FONT_COLOR_RED, MISSING_HEADERS, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_2, RAZOR2_CHECK, RCVD_IN_RFCI, SUBJ_FULL_OF_8BITS, TO_EMPTY, __CTYPE_IS_HTML, __EVITE_CTYPE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXXXXXXI, Probability=81%, Report="CTYPE_JUST_HTML, FROM_MISSING, HEADER_8BITS, HTML_FONT_COLOR_RED, MISSING_HEADERS, RAZOR2_CHECK, SUBJ_FULL_OF_8BITS, TO_EMPTY, __CTYPE_IS_HTML, __EVITE_CTYPE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN µ½½¹µã·¿µØ²úÍøÂò·¿£¬½ÚÔ¼ºÃ¼¸Íò£¡

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From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 21:36:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h295aM5a016038; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 21:36:23 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h295aH7q002480 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 8 Mar 2003 21:36:18 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h295YeOP011668; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 21:34:40 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h295XxCK042208 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 21:33:59 -0800 Received: from mail.hal-pc.org (mail.hal-pc.org [206.180.145.133]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h295XvIc014072 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 21:33:57 -0800 Received: from [206.180.133.20] (HELO [192.168.0.3]) by mail.hal-pc.org (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with ESMTP id 38695158 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 23:33:56 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 23:35:20 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steven Whatley To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: [pine] no recognized SASL authenticator (Solved) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: swhatley@jasmine.dewontheweb.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi all, Well, I fixed the problem. First I enabled the saslauthd service on both systems and created a imapd.pem file on Jack. I was still having problems. Turns out here is a problem with using Jack's fully qualived domain name when logged into Jill. I don't know why, yet. But if I go into Jill's /etc/hosts and put just the name jack before the fully qualifed name, then IMAP works great. Later, Steven On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Steven Whatley wrote: > I am trying to set up two RH8 systems. Lets call the server jack and the > client jill. I am trying to set up Pine 4.53 so I can read my mail from > either Jack or Jill. BTW, I have read the tech-notes.txt file included > with Pine. > > Jack has/is ... > the /home directory > the NIS server > rshd enabled > imapd installed from the Pine 4.53 distribution. > the symbolic link /etc/rimapd has been created. > xinetd.conf modified accordingly. > > Jill has /home NFS mounted. Jill is also running KDE 3.0.3. I use Jill > to dual boot WinXP and RH8. I installed RH8 on Jill about two weeks ago. > > The ~/.pinerc has INBOX set to "{Jack}inbox". > > I can log into either system under my account with no problem. If I run > Pine while logged into Jack, it works great. But, if I run Pine from > Jill, Pine fails to open the INBOX and gets the following debug error: > > About to open folder "INBOX" inbox: "INBOX" > IMAP 21:57:46 3/7 mm_log warning: rsh to IMAP server timed out > IMAP 21:57:46 3/7 mm_log babble: Trying IP address [192.168.151.204] > IMAP 21:57:46 3/7 mm_log error: Server disables LOGIN, no recognized SASL authenticator > IMAP 21:57:46 3/7 mm_notify bye: {gospel}INBOX (?) : localhost IMAP4rev1 server terminating connection > > I have a .rhosts file. > > jack me > jill me > > I can run commands like 'rsh jack /usr/bin/fetchmail -q -d 300' from Jill > with no problems. I have imapd on Jack set up to allow connections from > all hosts. I used webmin to do the configuration. > > Enough background? Ask if you need more. My question is, of course, how > do I get pine to open my inbox on Jack when I am logged into Jill? > > Any info will be appreciated. > > BTW, I *really* like pine for email and have gone to great pains to keep > the abilty to use it for the past 12 years. > > Thanks, > Steven > ___ ____________ <<<((__O\ (__<>___<>__ \ ____ Don't get rattled by Steven Whatley \ \_(__<>___<>__)\O\_/O___>-< what I say. It's just swhatley@hal-pc.org \O__<>___<>___<>)\___/ my opinion. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 22:32:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h296Wr5a017119; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 22:32:53 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h296Wo7q003562 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 8 Mar 2003 22:32:50 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h296V3o0023456; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 22:31:03 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h296UOCK046376 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 22:30:25 -0800 Received: from fourier.sag.gwu.edu (fourier.sag.gwu.edu [128.164.127.73]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h296UN7W025325 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 22:30:23 -0800 Received: from fuchs.sag.gwu.edu (fuchs.sag.gwu.edu [192.168.61.126]) by fourier.sag.gwu.edu (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.2000.05.17.04.13.p6) with ESMTP id <0HBG0010QY2JM8@fourier.sag.gwu.edu> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 01:30:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from fermi.nit.gwu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fuchs.sag.gwu.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h296QN215123 for ; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 01:26:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from acad1 (acad.gwu.edu [128.164.127.128]) by fermi.nit.gwu.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h296U73D016463 for ; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 01:30:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 01:30:19 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jeff Baxter To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Resaving message to sent-mail folder.. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: jbaxter@acad1 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Okay, folks, a bizarre question for ya.. I have the relatively standard setup of using Pine on Unix to access an IMAP mail server and send to an SMTP server. Occasionally, the IMAP mail server is "acting up"... so when I sent a message, it goes through to the SMTP server, but when it attempts to write the message to my sent-mail folder via IMAP, it fails. So, it dumps me back out to the message compose screen. Now, I could try to send it again... usually it works on the 2nd or 3rd time, but each time, I'd be sending the e-mail again, which is annoying to the recipients. What I usually end up doing is removing all the recipients, and it eventually saves to sent-mail folder (or I postpone and come back to it and do it later). But then I don't have any record of who I actually sent it to.. So, after that long explanation, any way to save an outgoing message to my IMAP sent-mail (with recipient info intact), *wihtout* actually sending it along to the SMTP server? Thanks, Jeff -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 20:43:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2A4hA5a018075; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 20:43:10 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2A4h77q004732 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 9 Mar 2003 20:43:07 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2A4fEo0031690; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 20:41:14 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2A4dTCK030994 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 20:39:29 -0800 Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2A4dSCc024397 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 20:39:28 -0800 Received: from gw02.holdiko.com (HELO anu) (davidsudjiman@202.155.43.68 with login) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 04:39:27 -0000 Message-Id: <000e01c2e6be$2c951e20$9300a8c0@anu.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:33:16 +0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "David Sudjiman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: STMP authenticate MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXIIIIIII, Probability=37%, Report="PRIORITY_NO_NAME, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XII, Probability=12%, Report="SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, USER_AGENT_OE, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_OUTLOOK_IN_MAILER, __HAS_X_MAILER, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Guys, I read this on my yahoo If you have set the "Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server" field in Yahoo! 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How can I turn it on from pine.. or using my sendmail? thx .dave, knows nothing. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 00:11:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2A8Bg5a023209; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 00:11:42 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2A8Bc2B017673 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Mar 2003 00:11:39 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2A89q4T089796; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 00:09:52 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2A81JCK018070 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 00:01:19 -0800 Received: from mail.araneidae.co.uk (pc2-oxfd2-4-cust9.oxfd.cable.ntl.com [62.254.143.9]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2A81FId018284 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 00:01:17 -0800 Received: from saturn.araneidae.co.uk (michael@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.araneidae.co.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2A81APe014637; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:01:10 GMT (envelope-from michael@saturn.araneidae.co.uk) Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by saturn.araneidae.co.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h2A819Cu014634; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:01:09 GMT Message-Id: <20030310073756.M14530@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:01:09 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Michael Abbott To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Error Condition Re: Re: Pine lockfile (again) (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20030309233151.P6284@znfgre.tberna.bet> References: <20030309233151.P6284@znfgre.tberna.bet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Doug Barton X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > FYI > DougB@freebsd.org: You are not subscribed to pine-info@u.washington.edu. Ach. Shall I forward your reply to me to the list for you? I guess you ought to subscribe :) > > 1. Running pine SGID (as suggested in my patch) is a *bad* idea -- > > Mats Dufberg ; > Agreed. Ok. I don't see the hazard in this particular application (since the mail group has very little access to anything anyway), but I suppose as an entity that's shared between every user it's a potential loophole? > > 2. RedHat has no problem with the spool set to "0775 root:mail" -- > > Mike A. Harris > > Default permissions for /var/mail on FreeBSD are the same, and I don't get > any warnings like the one mentioned. If Michael wants to follow up with > me, I'm glad to do that. Basically I need to know what the directory > permissions on /var/mail were previously, and how they got that way. If > anything comes of that, I'll pass it along. When I upgraded my FreeBSD 4.7 to the latest patch and portupgraded pine the problem returned. So let me try a little experimentation: First the starting condition (this is with my fix implemented): $ ls -ld /var/mail drwxrwxr-t 2 root mail 512 Mar 10 07:42 /var/mail $ ls -l /usr/local/bin/pine -r-xr-sr-x 1 root mail 4234672 Feb 17 08:11 /usr/local/bin/pine $ pine Nothing unexpected is reported on startup. Now to exercise the issue: # chmod g-s /usr/local/bin/pine $ pine Pine reports: [Folder vulnerable - directory /var/mail must have 1777 protection] This only seems to happen if there is incoming mail in my inbox. So, this is annoying, so I'll put the s bit back: # chmod g+s /usr/local/bin/pine Basic information about my system: $ uname -a FreeBSD saturn.araneidae.co.uk 4.7-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE-p7 #3: Tue Mar 4 15:45:27 GMT 2003 root@saturn.araneidae.co.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 $ pine -v Pine 4.53 built Mon Feb 17 08:11:03 GMT 2003 on saturn.araneidae.co.uk > I'm not sure there is an issue. I don't really understand what's happening here, but it looks strange to me. Do you get this report, or is it peculiar to my installation? > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/mail/pine4/?f=h#dirlist, Oh my goodness me. I didn't realise there were quite so many patches. Whoo! I'm not a pine developer, so I probably can't contribute much here... From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:40:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2AGeK5a004174; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:40:20 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2AGeH7q021525 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:40:18 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2AGc6OP022748; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:38:07 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2AGb7CK037302 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:37:07 -0800 Received: from helios.geneseo.edu (helios.geneseo.edu [137.238.1.100]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2AGb17W014070 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:37:05 -0800 Received: from mars.geneseo.edu (mars.geneseo.edu [137.238.1.104]) by helios.geneseo.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h2AGasix003976 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:36:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mars.geneseo.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mars.geneseo.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2AGaqYr019685 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:36:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (valites@localhost) by mars.geneseo.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h2AGaptF019681 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:36:51 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:36:51 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mark T. Valites" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: squiggly lines in messages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "pine-info@u.washington.edu" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Every once in a while, I get a message that comes through with a word that appears to underlined by a squiggly line composed of "^" (caret) charaters. The sender(s) of the message and myself are also pine users, all with the default character set (US-ASCII). When viewing the raw data file, the squiggly underline also shows there. I've looked all over my config, the help docs & the list archives, but have had no luck find where the squiggly underline comes from. Can anyone help maintain my sainity and let me know where this comes from? -- Mark T. Valites Unix Systems Analyst CIT - SUNY Geneseo >--))> -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:31:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2AJVi5a012429; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:31:44 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2AJVf2B004941 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:31:41 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2AJT8OP025648; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:29:09 -0800 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2AJSOCK038376 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:28:24 -0800 Received: from vax.hanford.org (vax.hanford.org [216.218.218.27]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2AJSNn7007199 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:28:23 -0800 Received: (qmail 24455 invoked by uid 1828); 10 Mar 2003 19:28:22 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:28:22 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: seeing security message when trying to compose with postponed message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXIII, Probability=33%, Report="NO_MX_FOR_FROM, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIIIIIII, Probability=29%, Report="NO_MX_FOR_FROM, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN When I try to compose a new message when there's already a postponed message, I'm seeing the following: [SECURITY PROBLEM: insecure server advertised AUTH=PLAIN] I do NOT see this when I try to compose a message without a postponed message existing. This seems to have started recently. Basically -- what does it mean/ should I tell the mail server people something/what should I say? thanks top-posting: It's just a bad idea. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:20:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2AKKm5a014394; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:20:48 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2AKKj7q030376 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:20:45 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2AKIUo0031500; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:18:30 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2AKHtCK053882 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:17:55 -0800 Received: from helios.geneseo.edu (helios.geneseo.edu [137.238.1.100]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2AKHpCC015392 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:17:52 -0800 Received: from mars.geneseo.edu (mars.geneseo.edu [137.238.1.104]) by helios.geneseo.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h2AKHiix016354 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:17:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mars.geneseo.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mars.geneseo.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2AKHfYr001620 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:17:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (valites@localhost) by mars.geneseo.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h2AKHfxo001614 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:17:41 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:17:40 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mark T. Valites" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: squiggly lines in messages In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Mark T. Valites wrote: > Every once in a while, I get a message that comes through with a word > that appears to underlined by a squiggly line composed of "^" (caret) > charaters. The sender(s) of the message and myself are also pine users, > all with the default character set (US-ASCII). When viewing the raw > data file, the squiggly underline also shows there. I've looked all > over my config, the help docs & the list archives, but have had no luck > find where the squiggly underline comes from. Can anyone help maintain > my sainity and let me know where this comes from? To clearify this a bit more, the senders of the messages are just as baffled as I about the origin of the underline. They are both extremely competent software developers, so I doubt the problem is originating with them. They did NOT insert the underline manually on the next line of text, nor can they think of any origin for it. Sometimes it shows up on a quoted reply, sometimes it doesn't... Someone tell me I'm not crazy... -- Mark T. Valites Unix Systems Analyst CIT - SUNY Geneseo >--))> >--))> From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:29:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2ALTF5a017530; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:29:15 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2ALTC2B009282 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:29:12 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2ALRG4T082960; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:27:16 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2ALQZCK052398 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:26:35 -0800 Received: from noella.mindsec.com (noella.mindsec.com [209.172.192.93]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2ALQWCc023797 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:26:33 -0800 Received: from noella.mindsec.com (noella.mindsec.com [209.172.192.93]) by noella.mindsec.com (9.1.2/9.1.2) with ESMTP id h2ALQGhc024806; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:26:18 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <0303101525340.5092328-100000@somehost.domain.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:26:16 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Erik Parker To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: squiggly lines in messages In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Mark T. Valites" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: eparker@mindsec.com X-GPG-Key: http://www.mindsec.com/staff/eparker/gpg.txt X-Use-Encryption: Encrypt your messages to me with PGP or GPG! X-No-Archive: Yes X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > To clearify this a bit more, the senders of the messages are just as > baffled as I about the origin of the underline. They are both extremely > competent software developers, so I doubt the problem is originating with > them. They did NOT insert the underline manually on the next line of > text, nor can they think of any origin for it. Sometimes it shows up on a > quoted reply, sometimes it doesn't... > > Someone tell me I'm not crazy... Does it show up like that in their sent-mail as well? Are you using pico as the editor, or an alternative? Can you reproduce, or is it random? From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:35:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2B5Z35a032372; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:35:03 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2B5Z07q014021 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:35:01 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2B5XF4T076646; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:33:16 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2B5UtCK038990 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:30:55 -0800 Received: from smtp.comcast.net (smtp.comcast.net [24.153.64.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2B5UrCC011503 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:30:54 -0800 Received: from [12.207.144.92] by mtaout01.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HBK0030MKNH8T@mtaout01.icomcast.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 00:30:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:32:35 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: ej2980@comcast.net Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Erik Johnson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Changing address displayed in From line MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-X-Sender: sdmf@hangar18.localdomain X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIII, Probability=16%, Report="MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report="MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am running Pine on a Linux workstation. When I send mail, however, the address that the recipient sees in the "From" line is not the correct address. Pine uses my linux account name in the address, so that the line looks like the following: Erik Johnson Instead of my actual address, like so: Erik Johnson I have specified a reply-to address, but I would like the recipient to see the correct address in the "From" line, to avoid any confusion. I don't see a way to do this through the Config menu, how can I do it? Thanks, Erik -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:53:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2B5rP5a000324; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:53:25 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2B5rL2B024210 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:53:21 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2B5pbOP028526; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:51:37 -0800 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2B5p9CK057722 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:51:10 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2B5p8n7015520 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:51:08 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2B5p6q141860; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:51:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:51:06 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Changing address displayed in From line In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Erik Johnson X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Erik Johnson (SDMF@comcast.net) wrote in the pine-info list today: EJ> I have specified a reply-to address, but I would like the recipient to EJ> see the correct address in the "From" line, to avoid any confusion. EJ> I don't see a way to do this through the Config menu, how can I do it? There are two ways to do it: - Thwe fast and easy way: Press M S C and set customized-hdrs = From: "Your Name" You are done! If you ever need to modify this value during composition, press ^R in the headers section of the message that you are composing, and you will be able to see the value and modify it. - or, you can use roles. Press M S R R to set up one. There's a explicit line where you can set the From: header. The first method of changing the From header is the best way to do it when you only need to change the current From header for another permanently. If you need to switch the From header between different values in the same session, consider using roles. You may also consider adding From: to the list of default-composer-hdrs, in that way it will always be available to be modified when you want to do so. If you do this, you will need to add more headers to this variable, including To:, Cc:, Subject:, and others. I hope this helps you. Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 01:32:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2B9WP5a005883; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 01:32:25 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2B9WM2B029227 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Mar 2003 01:32:22 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2B9UCkH011028; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 01:30:12 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2B9TRCK059258 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 01:29:27 -0800 Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2B9TPCC020067 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 01:29:26 -0800 Received: (qmail 27352 invoked by uid 0); 11 Mar 2003 09:29:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kaknx) (203.129.254.138) by mail.gmx.net (mp016-rz3) with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 09:29:23 -0000 Message-Id: <009c01c2e7b2$bf9b82f0$3b0110ac@kovaiteam.com> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:13:57 +0530 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "kanchana" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: build pine with -ltermcap MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXIIIII, Probability=35%, Report="PRIORITY_NO_NAME, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=II, Probability=2%, Report="USER_AGENT_OE, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_OUTLOOK_IN_MAILER, __HAS_X_MAILER, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello all, I just want to know the following things, while building pine * what are all the default libraries are needs to be installed before start building pine * does pine takes termcap library by default if so, for hpux itanium processor termcap library is not there. what can i do for that *is it possible to build with curses library instead of termcap. if so how and what are all changes to be done * what is the purpose of termcap/cureses library in pine plz help me as soon as possible Thanks and Regards, -Kanchana -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:36:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2BKan5a027200; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:36:49 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2BKak7q006554 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:36:46 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2BKXkkH032694; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:33:46 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2BKX2CK009708 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:33:02 -0800 Received: from andrew.triumf.ca (andrew.Triumf.CA [142.90.106.59]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2BKX1Ic029827 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:33:02 -0800 Received: from localhost (IDENT:andrew@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by andrew.triumf.ca (8.11.6/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h2BKWuo01420 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:32:56 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:32:56 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Andrew Daviel To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Support for Unicode punctuation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Certain mailers (OK, Microsoft) seem to generate Unicode punctuation within otherwise ISO-8859-1 HTML documents, e.g. ’ instead of "'" == , Pine 4.44 currently displays these as-is, though it decodes characters in the range 0-255. Unfortunately, this seems to be legal. As far as I can see it is considered correct to use an HTML character reference to encode a character not within the current encoding. Why they just can't use the ASCII subset of the ISO-8859-1 subset of ISO10646 for English I really don't know (well, OK, there's no Euro symbol but I don't use that...) It would be neat if Pine could map these punctuation marks into ISO-8859-1 in the same was as Netscape 4 does; see below. I'm upgrading to RedHat 8 shortly which has UTF-8 charsets by default so no doubt I'll have to contend with fixing various old software that needs C locale etc. etc. :-( http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U2000.pdf http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/charset.html HTML uses the .. Universal Character Set (UCS), defined in [ISO10646] .. Conforming user agents must correctly map to ISO 10646 all characters in any character encodings that they recognize (or they must behave as if they did). .. tools may employ any convenient encoding .. provided the encoding is correctly labeled. Occasional characters that fall outside this encoding may still be represented by character references . "&#D;", where D is a decimal number, "&#xH;" or "&#XH;", where H is a hexadecimal number, dec hex 2002 EN space 2003 EM space - 8208 2010 hyphen - 8209 2011 hyphen - 8210 2012 figure dash - 8211 2013 EN dash - 8212 2014 EM dash ` 8216 2018 left single quotation mark ' 8217 2019 right single quotation mark , 8218 201A low single comma quotation mark " 8220 201C left double quotation mark " 8221 201D right double quotation mark ,, 8222 201E low double comma quotation mark * 8226 2022 bullet (or ISO8859-1 00B7 "·") ... 8230 2026 ellipsis < 8249 2039 single left-pointing angle quiotaiton mark > 8250 203A single right-pointing angle quotation mark / 2044 fraction slash EUR 8364 [tm] 8482 etc. etc. possible mappings/kludges -- Andrew Daviel, TRIUMF, Canada Tel. +1 (604) 222-7376 security@triumf.ca -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:38:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2C1cw5a006922; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:38:58 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2C1cs7q016996 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:38:55 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2C1ato0010388; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:36:55 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2C1aDCK017962 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:36:13 -0800 Received: from mule.its.vu.edu.au (mule.its.vu.edu.AU [140.159.30.9]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2C1a97X014591 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:36:11 -0800 Received: from centaur.its.vu.edu.au (centaur.its.vu.edu.au [140.159.60.107]) by mule.its.vu.edu.au (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.1) with ESMTP id h2C1ZnCD013488 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:35:49 +1100 Received: from cerberus.its.vu.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by centaur.its.vu.edu.au (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2C1Zec21822 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:35:40 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:35:57 +1100 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Stewart James To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Attached email crashing pine. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1618211559-880863296-1047432763=:28172" Content-ID: X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: stewart@cerberus.its.vu.edu.au X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---1618211559-880863296-1047432763=:28172 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: I have attachmed a message her I received from the sympa mailing lists on subscribing. It is crashing my version of pine. I am running 4.53 with the all.patch from eduardo chappa on a Debian (unstable system). I am willing to think it could be my installation only, but as pine is usualy nice and robust I thought I would post it here just incase it affects others. 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In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: X-To: Stewart James X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Stewart James (stewart.james@vu.edu.au) wrote in the pine-info list on...: SJ> I am running 4.53 with the all.patch from eduardo chappa on a Debian SJ> (unstable system). SJ> SJ> I am willing to think it could be my installation only, but as pine is SJ> usualy nice and robust I thought I would post it here just incase it SJ> affects others. Dear Stewart, I am willing to think it's not my bug, but it is very likely to be. There was a crashing bug like that which only affected people using colors with Pine (well, others were affected too, but it was very unlikely). I fixed that bug some time ago, and the latest all.patch has not crashed on me, for quite some time. I would recommend you to upgrade and see if the upgrade fixes the bug. If it does not, please let me know. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:00:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2C20R5a007500; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:00:27 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2C20O2B029484 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:00:24 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2C1wVkH029170; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:58:31 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2C1w4CK017690 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:58:04 -0800 Received: from mule.its.vu.edu.au (mule.its.vu.edu.AU [140.159.30.9]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2C1w0CD030845 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:58:02 -0800 Received: from centaur.its.vu.edu.au (centaur.its.vu.edu.au [140.159.60.107]) by mule.its.vu.edu.au (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.1) with ESMTP id h2C1vbCD015705; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:57:37 +1100 Received: from cerberus.its.vu.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by centaur.its.vu.edu.au (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2C1vSL26139; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:57:28 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:57:45 +1100 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Stewart James To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Attached email crashing pine. In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: stewart@cerberus.its.vu.edu.au X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'll try and get that done early next week and let you know if the crash continues. (I am really swamped this week). SOrry I cant look at it sooner, Cheers, Stewart On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:48:35 -0800 (PST) > From: Eduardo Chappa > To: Stewart James > Cc: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Re: Attached email crashing pine. > > *** Stewart James (stewart.james@vu.edu.au) wrote in the pine-info list on...: > > SJ> I am running 4.53 with the all.patch from eduardo chappa on a Debian > SJ> (unstable system). > SJ> > SJ> I am willing to think it could be my installation only, but as pine is > SJ> usualy nice and robust I thought I would post it here just incase it > SJ> affects others. > > Dear Stewart, > > I am willing to think it's not my bug, but it is very likely to be. > There was a crashing bug like that which only affected people using colors > with Pine (well, others were affected too, but it was very unlikely). > > I fixed that bug some time ago, and the latest all.patch has not crashed > on me, for quite some time. I would recommend you to upgrade and see if > the upgrade fixes the bug. If it does not, please let me know. > > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:24:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2C2Od5a008027; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:24:39 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2C2Oa7q018303 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:24:37 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2C2Mso0029774; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:22:55 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2C2MNCK052318 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:22:23 -0800 Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.65.60]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2C2MLIc020370 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:22:21 -0800 Received: (qmail 13378 invoked by uid 0); 12 Mar 2003 02:22:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kaknx) (203.129.254.138) by mail.gmx.net (mp004-rz3) with SMTP; 12 Mar 2003 02:22:19 -0000 Message-Id: <001c01c2e840$3fc018a0$3b0110ac@kovaiteam.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 08:06:51 +0530 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "kanchana" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: build pine with -ltermcap References: <009c01c2e7b2$bf9b82f0$3b0110ac@kovaiteam.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "kanchana" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIII, Probability=24%, Report="PRIORITY_NO_NAME, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XII, Probability=12%, Report="FROM_AND_TO_SAME_6, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OE, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_OUTLOOK_IN_MAILER, __HAS_X_MAILER, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello all , sinc ethere is no reply, i'm resending again. plz help me asap. Thanks and Regards, -Kanchana > Hello all, > > I just want to know the following things, while building pine > > * what are all the default libraries are needs to be installed before start > building pine > * does pine takes termcap library by default > if so, for hpux itanium processor termcap library is not there. what can i > do for that > > *is it possible to build with curses library instead of termcap. > if so how and what are all changes to be done > > * what is the purpose of termcap/cureses library in pine > > plz help me as soon as possible > > Thanks and Regards, > -Kanchana > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:58:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2D7wD5a030007; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:58:13 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2D7wA2B017918 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:58:11 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2D7uI4T014824; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:56:18 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2D7rQCK042306 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:53:26 -0800 Received: from andrew.triumf.ca (andrew.Triumf.CA [142.90.106.59]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2D7rPg8030370 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:53:25 -0800 Received: from localhost (IDENT:andrew@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by andrew.triumf.ca (8.11.6/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h2D7rOo03198 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:53:24 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:53:24 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Andrew Daviel To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Support for Unicode punctuation In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Andrew Daviel wrote: > Certain mailers (OK, Microsoft) seem to generate Unicode punctuation > within otherwise ISO-8859-1 HTML documents, e.g. ’ instead of "'" > == , ... > It would be neat if Pine could map these punctuation marks into > ISO-8859-1 in the same was as Netscape 4 does; see below. I have written a (probably ugly) patch for pine4.53 filter.c which handles some of this. Things like quote marks, hyphens & space are translated into iso-8859-1 single bytes and handled normally. Some complex characters (!?, ..., ''' ) are handled using the "alternate" mechanism used for e.g. Æ -> AE in ASCII ftp://andrew.triumf.ca/pub/linux/pine4.53.unicode.filter.patch http://andrew.triumf.ca/pub/linux/pine4.53.unicode.filter.patch -- Andrew Daviel, TRIUMF, Canada Tel. +1 (604) 222-7376 security@triumf.ca From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:14:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2GLEY5a002944; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:14:34 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2GLEV7q007466 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:14:31 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2GLCQkH014770; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:12:27 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2GLB2CK042004 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:11:02 -0800 Received: from ycnan.pikeshop.com (pikeshop.com [213.133.115.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2GLB0Cc007844 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:11:01 -0800 Received: by ycnan.pikeshop.com (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 8B9A8794; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:14:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ycnan.pikeshop.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891C6772 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:14:16 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20030316221258.S91388-100000@ycnan.pikeshop.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:14:16 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "andreas@pikeshop.com" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: new messages in folder.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: aw@ycnan.pikeshop.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIII, Probability=6%, Report="SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01" hi, i using pine 4.44. with filter rules to sort my mails infor folders. how i see now in which folder are new messages? (it waste a lot of time to check each folder ....) thx andreas -- ICQ:174173623 AIM:blutorgel2 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 00:01:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2I81K5a031144; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 00:01:20 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2I81G7q030860 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 18 Mar 2003 00:01:16 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2I7tBOP028366; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 23:55:12 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2I7s0CK047236 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 23:54:00 -0800 Received: from n05.la.dlr.de (n05.la.dlr.de [129.247.193.99]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2I7rqg8006723 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 23:53:57 -0800 Received: from euphrat.robotic.dlr.de (euphrat.robotic.dlr.de [129.247.189.80]) by n05.la.dlr.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2I7rkN35378 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 08:53:46 +0100 Received: from lapsmagt (lapsmagt [129.247.189.36]) by euphrat.robotic.dlr.de (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h2I7rhR01454 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128 bits) verified NO); Tue, 18 Mar 2003 08:53:45 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 08:53:42 +0100 (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Westeurop=E4ische_Normalzeit?=) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Patrick van der Smagt To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: setting window title in pc-pine? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: smagt@euphrat.robotic.dlr.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I'm running several (pc-) pines at the same time to connect to several mail accounts. It is tough, however, to always remember which icon represents which account---wouldn't it be nice to be able to set the window title, so that the icon shows something else than "INBOX - PC-Pine". Can this be done? Patrick -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 15:08:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2IN8p5a027765; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 15:08:51 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2IN8d7q025349 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 18 Mar 2003 15:08:40 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2IN6JkH004054; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 15:06:20 -0800 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2IN5DCK017794 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 15:05:13 -0800 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2IN55n7028304 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 15:05:06 -0800 Received: from tsunami.bsd ([213.10.35.60]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HBYW5F02.HX6 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 00:05:39 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 00:05:04 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Marco Beishuizen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: fonts turning into bold MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: marco@tsunami.bsd X-To: Pine discussion forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, Recently I experienced a small problem in Pine 4.53 running on FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE. When I open a mail message and return to the message index, all fonts in Pine turn into a bold one. This includes the status bar, the message index, the message itself, and the list of Incoming-Folders in the folder collection. The font returns into normal when I go from the message index to the folder collection and back to the message index. Anyone else experienced this problem? Marco -- Keep America beautiful. Swallow your beer cans. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:12:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2J6CV5a007258; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:12:31 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2J6CS7q004746 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:12:28 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2J6A24T093368; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:10:03 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2J65CCK038646; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:05:12 -0800 Received: from rebecca.tiscali.nl (rebecca.tiscali.nl [195.241.76.181]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2J65ACc001943; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:05:10 -0800 Received: from shell.tiscali.nl (shell.tiscali.nl [195.241.77.35]) by rebecca.tiscali.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1957B46DD00; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 07:05:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (cohenb@localhost) by shell.tiscali.nl (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA08279; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 07:05:08 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 07:05:08 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bruce Cohen To: Pine Discussion Forum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mark Crispin , , Pine Discussion Forum , X-Authentication-Warning: shell.tiscali.nl: cohenb owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIII, Probability=24%, Report="MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, SUBJ_MISSING, USER_AGENT_PINE, X_AUTH_WARNING" From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 00:30:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2J8Us5a011196; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 00:30:54 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2J8Uo2B022442 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 19 Mar 2003 00:30:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2J8SkkH020768; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 00:28:47 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2J8RaCK043246; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 00:27:36 -0800 Received: from pandora.tiscali.nl (pandora.tiscali.nl [195.241.76.179]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2J8RYIc003046; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 00:27:34 -0800 Received: from shell.tiscali.nl (shell.tiscali.nl [195.241.77.35]) by pandora.tiscali.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836AC39B3B; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:27:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (cohenb@localhost) by shell.tiscali.nl (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA08716; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:27:32 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:27:32 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bruce Cohen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mark Crispin , , Pine Discussion Forum , X-Authentication-Warning: shell.tiscali.nl: cohenb owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIIIIII, Probability=19%, Report="IN_REP_TO, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_PINE, X_AUTH_WARNING" Sorry about the empty message - was updating my address book and must have hit the wrong key somewhere by mistake. 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    From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 06:51:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2KEpD5a002135 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 06:51:13 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2KEpB7q025363 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Mar 2003 06:51:11 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2KEmXkH008082; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 06:48:34 -0800 Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 06:48:33 -0800 Resent-Message-Id: <200303201448.h2KEmXkH008082@list1.u.washington.edu> Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2KElmCK059510 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 06:47:48 -0800 Received: from melchior-balthasars-computer.local (o088014.ap.plala.or.jp [219.167.88.14]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2KElkIc030871 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 06:47:47 -0800 Received: from iamagloworm.com (melchior@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by melchior-balthasars-computer.local (8.12.7/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2KEljL0000933 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 23:47:46 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 23:33:16 +0900 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: melchior To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PC-Pine and a couple of dumb questions Resent-To: pine-info@u.washington.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Resent-From: melchior X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=III, Probability=3%, Report="RESENT_TO, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __EVITE_CTYPE" Is it possible to run PC-Pine (under winxp) without having the window open? --- uh, that doesn't make a lot of sense. i want to use pine the way most people do, through a text shell (ssh, telnet, whatever) however the server is a winxp machine. how would i go about this? and since i believe you are all quite worldly with these things and i never use windows... what is the best way to set up the ssh/telnet server necessary under winxp? best regards, entropy -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 07:31:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2KFVL5a002980 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 07:31:21 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2KFVG2B009804 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Mar 2003 07:31:16 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2KFT2OP025470; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 07:29:03 -0800 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2KFSUCK056846 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 07:28:30 -0800 Received: from mail.bellhow.com (fw.pqbs.com [63.121.54.5]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2KFSRn7007594 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 07:28:29 -0800 Received: from rfdevel.bellhow.com (rfdevel.bellhow.com [192.168.16.73]) by mail.bellhow.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2KFSF4K005357; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:28:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (herrick@localhost) by rfdevel.bellhow.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA03314; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:28:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:28:13 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: daniel lance herrick To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine and a couple of dumb questions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: melchior X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: rfdevel.bellhow.com: herrick owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: herrick@rfdevel.bellhow.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, melchior wrote: > Is it possible to run PC-Pine (under winxp) without having the window > open? --- uh, that doesn't make a lot of sense. i want to use pine > the way most people do, through a text shell (ssh, telnet, whatever) > however the server is a winxp machine. how would i go about this? > > and since i believe you are all quite worldly with these things and i > never use windows... what is the best way to set up the ssh/telnet > server necessary under winxp? There are two or three products, I only know the name of one - use putty on the windows box. When you run putty it opens what you can think of as an xterm running ssh. dan From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 07:41:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2KFfs5a003301 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 07:41:54 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2KFfo7q026714 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Mar 2003 07:41:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2KFbwo0031626; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 07:37:59 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2KFbNCK037788 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 07:37:23 -0800 Received: from xbox.wkearney.com (xbox.wkearney.com [66.92.145.79]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2KFbLIc008262 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 07:37:22 -0800 Received: from media (media.wkearney.com [192.168.0.32]) by xbox.wkearney.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h2KFbbkK006690 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:37:37 -0500 Message-Id: <004a01c2eef6$989e4570$2000a8c0@wkearney.com> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:37:20 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Bill Kearney" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine and a couple of dumb questions References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXIIIIIIII, Probability=38%, Report="FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, PRIORITY_NO_NAME, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXI, Probability=21%, Report="FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, USER_AGENT_OE, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_OUTLOOK_IN_MAILER, __HAS_X_MAILER, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > > Is it possible to run PC-Pine (under winxp) without having the window > > open? --- uh, that doesn't make a lot of sense. i want to use pine > > the way most people do, through a text shell (ssh, telnet, whatever) > > however the server is a winxp machine. how would i go about this? > > > > and since i believe you are all quite worldly with these things and i > > never use windows... what is the best way to set up the ssh/telnet > > server necessary under winxp? > > There are two or three products, I only know the > name of one - use putty on the windows box. When > you run putty it opens what you can think of as an > xterm running ssh. That doesn't sound like what he's asking. It sounds like he's asking if it's possible to telnet to the XP box and run PC-Pine inside that session. The question is why? The details presented don't explain what the xp server is doing. Is it running an IMAP server? Or is it just a client workstation running PC-pine to an IMAP server running somewhere else. Ask better questions, get better answers? -Bill Kearney From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 07:49:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2KFnI5a003477 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 07:49:18 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2KFnF2B010263 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Mar 2003 07:49:15 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2KFki4T090914; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 07:46:45 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2KFkHCK059568 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 07:46:17 -0800 Received: from melchior-balthasars-computer.local (o088014.ap.plala.or.jp [219.167.88.14]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2KFkFCc032051 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 07:46:15 -0800 Received: from iamagloworm.com (melchior@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by melchior-balthasars-computer.local (8.12.7/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2KFkBL0000999 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:46:13 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <12755FFC-5AEB-11D7-9BEB-0003934983C2@iamagloworm.com> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:46:10 +0900 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: melchior To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine and a couple of dumb questions In-Reply-To: <004a01c2eef6$989e4570$2000a8c0@wkearney.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN you are right in your guess about exactly what it is i want Bill... i've got openssh running on the xp box now and want to open a pine session within that. the xp box is just a workstation... less than that, it's a computer, in a house. i want to ssh into the xp box (no problem there) and open pine and read email and save it locally on that machine. and it's pop3 i'm accessing unfortunately, not imap... On Friday, March 21, 2003, at 12:37 AM, Bill Kearney wrote: >>> Is it possible to run PC-Pine (under winxp) without having the window >>> open? --- uh, that doesn't make a lot of sense. i want to use >>> pine >>> the way most people do, through a text shell (ssh, telnet, whatever) >>> however the server is a winxp machine. how would i go about this? >>> >>> and since i believe you are all quite worldly with these things and i >>> never use windows... what is the best way to set up the ssh/telnet >>> server necessary under winxp? >> >> There are two or three products, I only know the >> name of one - use putty on the windows box. When >> you run putty it opens what you can think of as an >> xterm running ssh. > > That doesn't sound like what he's asking. It sounds like he's asking > if it's > possible to telnet to the XP box and run PC-Pine inside that session. > The > question is why? The details presented don't explain what the xp > server is > doing. Is it running an IMAP server? Or is it just a client > workstation > running PC-pine to an IMAP server running somewhere else. > > Ask better questions, get better answers? > > -Bill Kearney > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 08:05:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2KG505a003882 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 08:05:00 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2KG4v2B010755 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Mar 2003 08:04:57 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2KG33OP019312; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 08:03:03 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2KG2ICK015938 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 08:02:18 -0800 Received: from xbox.wkearney.com (xbox.wkearney.com [66.92.145.79]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2KG2GIc014133 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 08:02:17 -0800 Received: from media (media.wkearney.com [192.168.0.32]) by xbox.wkearney.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h2KG2UkK006757; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 11:02:30 -0500 Message-Id: <00b501c2eefa$122c6810$2000a8c0@wkearney.com> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 11:02:13 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Bill Kearney" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine and a couple of dumb questions References: <12755FFC-5AEB-11D7-9BEB-0003934983C2@iamagloworm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "melchior" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXXIIIIIII, Probability=47%, Report="FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, PRIORITY_NO_NAME, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_05_08, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXII, Probability=32%, Report="FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_05_08, USER_AGENT_OE, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_OUTLOOK_IN_MAILER, __HAS_X_MAILER, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ah, that's what I thought. You're stuck. Near as I can tell PC-Pine doesn't run within the text console. This sort of makes sense as it really is a local application. I suppose it /could/ be coded to work in a cmd console but it doesn't do that now. And to use POP on top of all this is asking for even more trouble. Not that it doesn't work but that you're pulling mail into a local filesystem that you can't get to from an ssh session. Really, it's quite a convoluted set of issues. Save yourself further agony and put linux on an ancient P133 machine and run IMAP on it. You can configure that to use fetchmail, gotmail, hotwayd and other interfaces to have it go pull the mail from the other locations. I do this and it's been working great. That way you'd have real pine and ssh and could use putty on the other win32 machines to get to it. -Bill Kearney ----- Original Message ----- From: "melchior" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 10:46 AM Subject: Re: PC-Pine and a couple of dumb questions > you are right in your guess about exactly what it is i want Bill... > i've got openssh running on the xp box now and want to open a pine > session within that. > > the xp box is just a workstation... less than that, it's a computer, in > a house. i want to ssh into the xp box (no problem there) and open pine > and read email and save it locally on that machine. and it's pop3 i'm > accessing unfortunately, not imap... From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 08:16:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2KGGW5a004226 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 08:16:32 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2KGGT7q027787 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Mar 2003 08:16:30 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2KGEUo0024258; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 08:14:30 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2KGE1CK044954 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 08:14:01 -0800 Received: from melchior-balthasars-computer.local (o088014.ap.plala.or.jp [219.167.88.14]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2KGDxCc005743 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 08:13:59 -0800 Received: from iamagloworm.com (melchior@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by melchior-balthasars-computer.local (8.12.7/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2KGDwL0001068 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 01:13:58 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 01:13:57 +0900 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: melchior To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine and a couple of dumb questions In-Reply-To: <00b501c2eefa$122c6810$2000a8c0@wkearney.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN oh, i know linux would save me a whole heap of trouble, but i didn't anticipate wanting to do this over a year ago when i had physical access to the computer. i'm gonna give cygwin a whirl with pine and that should get what i want at least. thanks for you comments On Friday, March 21, 2003, at 01:02 AM, Bill Kearney wrote: > Ah, that's what I thought. You're stuck. > > Near as I can tell PC-Pine doesn't run within the text console. This > sort of > makes sense as it really is a local application. I suppose it /could/ > be coded > to work in a cmd console but it doesn't do that now. > > And to use POP on top of all this is asking for even more trouble. > Not that it > doesn't work but that you're pulling mail into a local filesystem that > you can't > get to from an ssh session. Really, it's quite a convoluted set of > issues. > > Save yourself further agony and put linux on an ancient P133 machine > and run > IMAP on it. You can configure that to use fetchmail, gotmail, hotwayd > and other > interfaces to have it go pull the mail from the other locations. I do > this and > it's been working great. > > That way you'd have real pine and ssh and could use putty on the other > win32 > machines to get to it. > > -Bill Kearney > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "melchior" > To: "Pine Discussion Forum" > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 10:46 AM > Subject: Re: PC-Pine and a couple of dumb questions > > >> you are right in your guess about exactly what it is i want Bill... >> i've got openssh running on the xp box now and want to open a pine >> session within that. >> >> the xp box is just a workstation... less than that, it's a computer, >> in >> a house. i want to ssh into the xp box (no problem there) and open >> pine >> and read email and save it locally on that machine. and it's pop3 i'm >> accessing unfortunately, not imap... > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 08:19:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2KGJJ5a004362 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 08:19:19 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2KGJF2B011199 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Mar 2003 08:19:16 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2KGGnkH034694; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 08:16:49 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2KGGUCK037418 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 08:16:30 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2KGGSCC012228 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 08:16:28 -0800 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2KGGOqs414241; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 08:16:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 08:15:25 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine and a couple of dumb questions In-Reply-To: <12755FFC-5AEB-11D7-9BEB-0003934983C2@iamagloworm.com> References: <12755FFC-5AEB-11D7-9BEB-0003934983C2@iamagloworm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: melchior X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** melchior (entropy@iamagloworm.com) wrote in the pine-info list on Mar...: m> you are right in your guess about exactly what it is i want Bill... m> i've got openssh running on the xp box now and want to open a pine m> session within that. m> m> the xp box is just a workstation... less than that, it's a computer, in m> a house. i want to ssh into the xp box (no problem there) and open pine m> and read email and save it locally on that machine. and it's pop3 i'm m> accessing unfortunately, not imap... You can accomplish this if you run Cygwin in your machine and run the Cygwin version of Pine. You can run a sshd daemon under cygwin and so you can use any program to ssh to your machine. Cywgin is included with the Cygwin version of Pine. However, Pine does not download messages from a POP3 server to your machine, it must be configured to do so in a cumbersome way (setting a filter to move messages to a local folder and then open that folder). You will always be reading mail from the server, and so the "ssh" part of the process can be eliminated. Apparently Pine4.55 will be able to move your POP3 messages to a local folder of your choice in a more natural way, so you may want to install cygwin now and set up the sshd daemon until 4.55 comes out. You can get cygwin from http://www.cygwin.com/ -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 11:04:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2KJ4k5a010937 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 11:04:46 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2KJ4f2B017040 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Mar 2003 11:04:43 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2KJ2SOP015048; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 11:02:28 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2KJ0LCK046738 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 11:00:21 -0800 Received: from claven.astro.princeton.edu (claven.astro.Princeton.EDU [128.112.25.10]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2KJ0ICC004638 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 11:00:19 -0800 Received: from xanadu (IDENT:huston@xanadu [128.112.24.13]) by claven.astro.princeton.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2KJ04H23580; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:00:04 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:00:04 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Huston To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine and a couple of dumb questions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: entropy@iamagloworm.com, Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > *** melchior (entropy@iamagloworm.com) wrote in the pine-info list on Mar...: > m> a house. i want to ssh into the xp box (no problem there) and open pine > m> and read email and save it locally on that machine. and it's pop3 i'm > m> accessing unfortunately, not imap... > However, Pine does not download messages from a POP3 server to your machine, > it must be configured to do so in a cumbersome way (setting a filter to move > messages to a local folder and then open that folder). It's been awhile since I had a windows box to play with, so I don't remember the answer to this; does Cygwin have available (or can it be compiled) fetchmail? You could even run it daemonized and every N seconds it would poll the POP3 server for mail, store it locally, and Pine could read that fine (I used to do this in Linux at home, adding a ssh tunnel to the 'preconnect' requirements for polling the pop3 server). -- Steve Huston - Unix Systems Admin, Dept. of Astrophysical Sciences Princeton University | ICBM Address: 40.346525 -74.651285 126 Peyton Hall |"On my ship, the Rocinante, wheeling through Princeton, NJ 08544 | the galaxies; headed for the heart of Cygnus, (609) 258-7375 | headlong into mystery." -Rush, 'Cygnus X-1' From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 11:40:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2KJeb5a012828 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 11:40:37 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2KJeX7q002702 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Mar 2003 11:40:34 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2KJc4o0013048; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 11:38:04 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2KJaBCK041814 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 11:36:11 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2KJa9Ic020358 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 11:36:09 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2KJa5qs510676; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 11:36:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 11:36:05 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine and a couple of dumb questions In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Steve Huston X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Steve Huston (huston@astro.princeton.edu) wrote today: SH> On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, Eduardo Chappa wrote: SH> > *** melchior (entropy@iamagloworm.com) wrote in the pine-info list SH> > on Mar...: SH> > m> a house. i want to ssh into the xp box (no problem there) and SH> > m> open pine and read email and save it locally on that machine. and SH> > m> it's pop3 i'm accessing unfortunately, not imap... SH> > SH> > However, Pine does not download messages from a POP3 server to your SH> > machine, it must be configured to do so in a cumbersome way (setting SH> > a filter to move messages to a local folder and then open that SH> > folder). SH> SH> It's been awhile since I had a windows box to play with, so I don't SH> remember the answer to this; does Cygwin have available (or can it be SH> compiled) fetchmail? Yes, indeed. Fetchmail and Procmail are available for cygwin. The list of packages listed in the setup program of cygwin can be found here: http://cygwin.com/packages/ Not all packages can be found there. I use ispell, for example, which does not appear in that list, but it can be found in this other list: http://cygwin.com/ported.html SH> You could even run it daemonized and every N seconds it would poll the SH> POP3 server for mail, store it locally, and Pine could read that fine SH> (I used to do this in Linux at home, adding a ssh tunnel to the SH> 'preconnect' requirements for polling the pop3 server). Yes, that's correct. I guess I had forgotten about that option too. Thanks! -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:43:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2KLhK5a017161 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:43:20 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2KLhH2B022638 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:43:17 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2KLen4T090774; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:40:49 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2KLcjCK041770 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:38:45 -0800 Received: from mule.its.vu.edu.au (mule.its.vu.edu.AU [140.159.30.9]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2KLcVg9007652 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:38:34 -0800 Received: from centaur.its.vu.edu.au (centaur.its.vu.edu.au [140.159.60.107]) by mule.its.vu.edu.au (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.1) with ESMTP id h2KLcCCD002978; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 08:38:12 +1100 Received: from cerberus.its.vu.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by centaur.its.vu.edu.au (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2KLc0c20604; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 08:38:00 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 08:38:21 +1100 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Stewart James To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Attached email crashing pine. In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: stewart@cerberus.its.vu.edu.au X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Just following this up. I just rebuilt pine with the updated all.patch and the problems I was hacing appear to have been fixed. Thanks Eduardo, Stewart On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:48:35 -0800 (PST) > From: Eduardo Chappa > To: Stewart James > Cc: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Re: Attached email crashing pine. > > *** Stewart James (stewart.james@vu.edu.au) wrote in the pine-info list on...: > > SJ> I am running 4.53 with the all.patch from eduardo chappa on a Debian > SJ> (unstable system). > SJ> > SJ> I am willing to think it could be my installation only, but as pine is > SJ> usualy nice and robust I thought I would post it here just incase it > SJ> affects others. > > Dear Stewart, > > I am willing to think it's not my bug, but it is very likely to be. > There was a crashing bug like that which only affected people using colors > with Pine (well, others were affected too, but it was very unlikely). > > I fixed that bug some time ago, and the latest all.patch has not crashed > on me, for quite some time. I would recommend you to upgrade and see if > the upgrade fixes the bug. If it does not, please let me know. > > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:44:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2KMiS5a019353 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:44:28 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2KMiO7q009081 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:44:25 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2KMfvOP016718; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:41:57 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2KMdsCK060286 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:39:54 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2KMdqIc015530 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:39:53 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2KMdqqs448197; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:39:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:39:52 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Attached email crashing pine. In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Stewart James X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Stewart James (stewart.james@vu.edu.au) wrote in the pine-info list on...: SJ> Just following this up. SJ> SJ> I just rebuilt pine with the updated all.patch and the problems I was SJ> hacing appear to have been fixed. SJ> SJ> Thanks Eduardo, Thank you James, I appreciate the feedback. Please let me know if you run into troubles again. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 23:20:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2M7KX5a009283 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 23:20:33 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2M7KS2B013592 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 21 Mar 2003 23:20:29 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2M7HwOP019044; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 23:17:59 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2M7E1CK051828 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 23:14:01 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2M7DvCD016807 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 23:13:57 -0800 Received: from starinfo.net.cn ([202.99.127.251]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with SMTP id h2M7Cc7p029622 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 23:13:01 -0800 Received: from Gleiln([68.8.7.198]) by starinfo.net.cn(AIMC 2.9.5.0) with SMTP id jm03e7c59a0; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 07:21:44 -0000 Message-Id: <200303220713.h2M7Cc7p029622@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 23:12:38 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: bret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Virus Rejected by E-Mail Protection Infrastructure MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Perlmx-Virus-Detected: W32/Klez.h@MM X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXXIIIII, Probability=45%, Report="RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM, RCVD_IN_RELAYS_ORDB_ORG, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, X_OSIRU_DUL_FH, X_OSIRU_OPEN_RELAY" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXXIIIIIIII, Probability=48%, Report="MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_2, RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM, RCVD_IN_RELAYS_ORDB_ORG, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, X_OSIRU_DUL_FH, X_OSIRU_OPEN_RELAY" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIII, Probability=13%, Report="DATE_MISSING, RELAYING_FRAME, __EVITE_CTYPE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN An email message sent to you was determined to contain the following virus(es): W32/Klez.h@MM The original subject of the message was: Upon request The infected message was intercepted and deleted by the UW E-Mail Virus scanner. 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Computing & Communications help@cac.washington.edu (206) 543-5970 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 10:47:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2MIlB5a024346 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 10:47:11 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2MIl82B028567 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 22 Mar 2003 10:47:08 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2MIitOP015408; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 10:44:55 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2MIhOCK036706 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 10:43:25 -0800 Received: from mail.araneidae.co.uk (pc2-oxfd2-4-cust9.oxfd.cable.ntl.com [62.254.143.9]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2MIhL7X019031 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 10:43:23 -0800 Received: from saturn.araneidae.co.uk (michael@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.araneidae.co.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2MIhKPl075357 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 18:43:20 GMT (envelope-from michael@saturn.araneidae.co.uk) Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by saturn.araneidae.co.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h2MIhKB5075354 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 18:43:20 GMT Message-Id: <20030322184151.A75353@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 18:43:20 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Michael Abbott To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: new messages in folder.. In-Reply-To: <20030316221258.S91388-100000@ycnan.pikeshop.com> References: <20030316221258.S91388-100000@ycnan.pikeshop.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, andreas@pikeshop.com wrote: > how i see now in which folder are new messages? > (it waste a lot of time to check each folder ....) I seem to remember this question was asked a while ago: is there some way of seeing in the folder overview which folders have new messages? As I recall the answer was no, but it might be in a future version. Has that future version arrived yet? From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 12:46:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2MKkW5a026562 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 12:46:32 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2MKkP2B031082 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 22 Mar 2003 12:46:25 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2MKiQo0005380; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 12:44:26 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2MKg7CK027318 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 12:42:07 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2MKg3Cc023080 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 12:42:03 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2MKg0qs220622; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 12:42:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 12:42:00 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: new messages in folder.. In-Reply-To: <20030316221258.S91388-100000@ycnan.pikeshop.com> References: <20030316221258.S91388-100000@ycnan.pikeshop.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "andreas@pikeshop.com" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** andreas@pikeshop.com wrote in the pine-info list on Mar 16, 2003: a> i using pine 4.44. with filter rules to sort my mails infor folders. a> a> how i see now in which folder are new messages? (it waste a lot of time a> to check each folder ....) Hi Andreas, I have a patch in my web page (see below) that will tell you which incoming folders have new messages. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:23:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2PNNt5a018736 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:23:55 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2PNNlqY004482 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:23:47 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2PNLLo0031540; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:21:21 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2PNK7CK052046 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:20:07 -0800 Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2PNK37X022564 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:20:03 -0800 Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2PNJs2Z008886; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:19:54 -0800 Received: from jeffro.nebula.washington.edu (fw135.cac.washington.edu [128.95.135.30]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2PNJoaM012247 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:19:54 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:19:50 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jeff Franklin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: bug in Pine 4.53 ? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Cornelius C. Noack" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Cornelius C. Noack wrote: > (I am using pcpine) > > In my pinerc. I have set both > enable-alternate-editor-cmd and > editor=C:\$user\Editors\TSE_2.5\e.exe (which exists!) > > Nevertheless, when I call the alternate editor, I get the > "Which alternate Editor?" window. This was not so in previous > releases. Hello, I came across this message of about 2 months ago and I have an answer for you. You should wrap brackets around the variable such that it appears as ${user}. This will fix your problem. BTW, I didn't see it working any differently in previous versions, was there a particular version that you observed it to work differently? Thanks, Jeff From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 06:34:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2SEYi5a006501 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 06:34:44 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2SEYctU019289 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Mar 2003 06:34:38 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2SEVn4T087676; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 06:31:50 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2SETGZv031680 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 06:29:16 -0800 Received: from smtp1.ias.edu (smtp1.ias.edu [192.16.204.22]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2SET4fY010792 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 06:29:05 -0800 Received: from yttrium.net.ias.edu (yttrium.net.ias.edu [198.138.241.39]) by smtp1.ias.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h2SESq7J008148 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:29:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from pico.admin.ias.edu ([198.138.242.10]) by yttrium.net.ias.edu (NAVGW 2.5.2.9) with SMTP id M2003032809290320881 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:29:03 -0500 Received: by pico.admin.ias.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:29:02 -0500 Message-Id: <9B3CEA6AE680D41190DB00508B0EA5DC01B76751@pico.admin.ias.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:29:01 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Hong Tian To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine man page MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIII, Probability=6%, Report="SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __EVITE_CTYPE" Hi, I downloaded pine4.44 source code and compiled with "build". Pine is working good. But I can't find Pine man page. Anyone knows how to set up Pine man page? # man pine No manual entry for pine. Thanks, Hong -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 07:19:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2SFJZ5a007670 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 07:19:35 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2SFJVv8017440 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Mar 2003 07:19:32 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2SFH3kH020766; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 07:17:04 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2SFFDZv061672 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 07:15:13 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2SFFBE2018290 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 07:15:11 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2SFFAVh102790; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 07:15:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 07:15:09 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine man page In-Reply-To: <9B3CEA6AE680D41190DB00508B0EA5DC01B76751@pico.admin.ias.edu> References: <9B3CEA6AE680D41190DB00508B0EA5DC01B76751@pico.admin.ias.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Hong Tian X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Hong Tian (htian@ias.edu) wrote in the pine-info list today: HT> I downloaded pine4.44 source code and compiled with "build". Pine is HT> working good. But I can't find Pine man page. Anyone knows how to set HT> up Pine man page? You need to copy the file pine4.44/doc/pine.1 to the directory containing all pages for the manual. Take a look at "man man" in order to figure out where to copy this file in your system. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:54:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2VHsW5a029451 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:54:32 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2VHsStU005187 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:54:29 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2VHplkH004140; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:51:48 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2VHoEZv025424 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:50:14 -0800 Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2VHoCE2002414 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:50:13 -0800 Received: from panix5.panix.com (panix5.panix.com [166.84.1.5]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C406A48BD6 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 12:50:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (se@localhost) by panix5.panix.com (8.11.6/8.8.8/PanixN1.0) with ESMTP id h2VHoBd01920 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 12:50:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 12:50:11 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Ehrlich To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: How to get bcc in a reply? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=I, Probability=1%, Report="SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've done searching, though maybe not enough. How do I Bcc a message I'm replying to? I know about ^R for a rich header during an original composition, but that will read in a file during a reply. Thanks. Scott -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:12:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2VIC85a030414 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:12:08 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2VIC5tU005898 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:12:06 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2VI92kH029044; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:09:03 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2VI8FZv011878 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:08:16 -0800 Received: from merhaba.cc.columbia.edu (merhaba.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.59.130]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2VI8DE2008998 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:08:14 -0800 Received: from merhaba.cc.columbia.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merhaba.cc.columbia.edu (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h2VI8CY5027042; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 13:08:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by merhaba.cc.columbia.edu (8.12.8/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id h2VI8BYw027035; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 13:08:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 13:08:11 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Freda B Birnbaum To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: How to get bcc in a reply? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: fbb6@columbia.edu X-To: Scott Ehrlich X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum , Freda B Birnbaum X-Authentication-Warning: merhaba.cc.columbia.edu: fbb6 owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > I've done searching, though maybe not enough. How do I Bcc a message > I'm replying to? I know about ^R for a rich header during an original > composition, but that will read in a file during a reply. If you're in the header portion of the message, ^R should get you the expanded headers. If you're in the text portion, it will ask for a file to read in. Freda Birnbaum, fbb6@columbia.edu "Call on God, but row away from the rocks" From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:12:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2VICt5a030474 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:12:55 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2VICqv8001037 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:12:52 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2VIB0kH028254; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:11:00 -0800 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2VI9wZv042170 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:09:58 -0800 Received: from nalle.netsonic.fi (netsonic.fi [194.29.192.20]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2VI9tLY014649 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:09:55 -0800 Received: from campus.local (qmailr@wanda69.adsl.netsonic.fi [81.17.192.69]) by nalle.netsonic.fi (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h2VI9o504318 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:09:50 +0300 Received: (qmail 1247 invoked by uid 1000); 31 Mar 2003 18:09:49 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 Mar 2003 18:09:49 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:09:45 +0300 (EEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ari Moisio To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: How to get bcc in a reply? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: arimo@campus.local X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi! Move cursor to to: or subject field before pressing ctrl-R. You can also add an attachment by ctrl-J. On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, Scott Ehrlich wrote: > I've done searching, though maybe not enough. How do I Bcc a message I'm > replying to? I know about ^R for a rich header during an original > composition, but that will read in a file during a reply. -- arimo From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:36:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2VIah5a031522 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:36:43 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h2VIaev8001878 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:36:40 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h2VIYGOP009902; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:34:16 -0800 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2VIXZZv032766 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:33:36 -0800 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h2VIXW7W003584 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:33:34 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.12.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h2VIXT8K071170; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:33:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dufberg@narnia.pp.se) Message-Id: <20030331195849.N58021@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:33:29 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: How to get bcc in a reply? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Scott Ehrlich X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mar 31, 2003, 12:50 (-0500) Scott Ehrlich wrote: > I've done searching, though maybe not enough. How do I Bcc a message I'm > replying to? I know about ^R for a rich header during an original > composition, but that will read in a file during a reply. Move the cursor up to one of the headers and hit Ctrl-R, and you'll get the rich headers just as you do when you compose a new message. Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg dufberg@narnia.pp.se Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588